@KatMT Thanks for the tip! I didn’t even know that forum existed. I’m checking it out now
Question for the as yet uninitiated…asking for advice today regarding what to keep and what to leave off and formatting for the first ‘theatrical resume’, when it is NOT a CV, and cannot be multiple pages.
We’ve looked through examples, but I can’t seem to find a format that looks ‘right’. Is there such a thing-a standard format? What I wonder is, for a scholarship app to a major metropolitan theatre guild, should we keep S’s biggest roles from upper age youth theatre and use smaller font size, or let them go?
We also have authorship/directorial experience, and are not sure where to place that on the page-separate heading, I would think…
if anyone would be willing to share a template, or article links, or advice, that would be super! TIA!
Anyone out there a LUI expert? Does anyone know of anyone famous person who studied at LIU Post? What about the Brookfield area? Has anyone visited the campus who cares to comment? I have some good feedback about it being up in coming (thank you @courtneytheatre ) and Ithat the teaching staff are all from excellent schools. I am concerned that they do not have private voice lessons looking at the course line up.
@momof3nerdz Send me your email via PM and I’ll send you my D’s resume as a guide. She just finished working with one of her professors to revamp it.
@JCLmtmom Check the MT thread. There are two threads on LIU and there is also mention of it on the Final Decision thread for MT.
Not directly relevant, but I just bought my boy Unearthing Shakespeare:Embodied Performance and the Globe for his birthday. The author is a professor at LIU.
@JCLmtmom I am not aware of any famous alumni of LIU. As for the area around the campus, Brookville is a beautiful and extremely wealthy North Shore community on Long Island. LIU itself is on the beautiful former estate of Lee Merriweather Post of the Post cereal fortune. The campus is surrounded by estates and estates that were subdivided and now house mini-mansions selling in the millions.
There is no real commercial areas nearby other than a gourmet market, steakhouse, restaurants and boutiques. Nothing in the area caters to the student population, but rather it caters to the wealthy local clientele.
Transportation to Manhattan is from Hicksville which is about 20 minutes south by car or LIU van. (Trains run on schedules that vary throughout the day. The trip averages 50 minutes to Penn Station.) Though adjacent to each other, Hicksville and Brookville are very opposite in terms of demographics and feel. Hicksville is very commercial and busy, but again, does not cater to students and is not a walkable or appealing town. The Broadway Mall, walking distance from the train, is adequate for visits to Target, Macys, Old Navy, Ikea and typical mall stores that are mid-market.
@JCLmtmom Definitely go read through the posts on the two discussion boards:
LIU Post’s MT Program and Long Island University, NY - musical theatre program.
I am going to call and ask Dave Hugo about the private voice lessons. I do see half hour and also hour voice listed on their course registration website. I will post what I find out after I get an answer.
@songgirlsmom, I sent you my email address via PM-Thanks!
@WhiteRaven1 I hope that you are also sharing the financial information with your parents, because they don’t seem to have a great understanding of college costs. Unless they want you to live at home and go to an in-state school, $20,000 for two years isn’t a realistic assessment of what you’d need to go to any college. Make sure they’ve seen your research, the costs of other schools, your possible scholarships, and how hard you’re working and see if they can help more - at least with loans. Then as mentioned here by @VoiceTeacher and others, let the schools know your situation. I give you a lot of credit for taking on so much on your own and wish you the best of luck!
@WhiteRaven1 — Are you saying that your parents can provide a total of $40,000 for you to go to college? And that right now the plan is to split that amount to help cover years 1 and 2… $20,000 per year? What is the plan for years 3 and 4?
You may want to consider listing your costs, grants/ scholarships, family resources, and loans for each school for yourself to be able to compare apples to apples when making your decision, and sharing that information with you parents…
What is your FAFSA EFC?
Ex. School A
Costs:
(1) Tuition & Fees = $xxxxxxx
(2) Room & Board = $xxxxxxx
(3) Any Additional billable expenses = $xxxxxxx
Total Billable Costs = $xxxxxx
Money that does not need to be repaid:
(1) Federal Grants = $xxxxxxx
(2) State Grants = $xxxxxx
(3) University Grants & Scholarships = $xxxxxx (include if they are renewable of for one year)
(4) Outside Scholarships = $xxxxxx (include if tey are renewable or for one year)
Total Grant Aid That Does Not Need to Be Repaid = $xxxxxx
Loans:
(1) Federal Loans (subsidized and unsubsidized… could be Direct Loans and possibly Perkins) = $xxxxxx
(2) State Loans (if applicable) = $xxxxx
(3) University Loans (if applicable) = $xxxxx
(4) Parent Plus Loans “offered” in your aid package (these are not guaranteed… must be applied for. Parents must apply) = $xxxxxx
Total potential loans = $xxxxxx
Work Study Amount Offered (if applicable) = $xxxxxx
Amount you parents will pay = $xxxxxxx (I suggest listing a total 4 year amount, and how much they will provide per year)
Amount you currently have in savings to pay = $xxxxxxx
Basically, the billable costs - grant/ scholarship aid = the amount you will have to pay the university.
If you do the above for each of your schools you will have more information in terms of how to evaluate packages and costs from school to school.
You are so impressive in term of how much you have been doing on your own, and the 4 year financial feasibility piece is a huge final part of the process, The more you can lay out to share with your parents, and request assistance from other trusted adults (including some knowledgeable posters who volunteer their time on CC :-), the more tools you will have at your disposal as you are comparing all options for your final decision You ave some terrific options!.
I suggest doing this for all schools, including any instate options you may have like VCU (assuming you have been admitted academically to the university while waitlisted from the program)
Wising you all the best, and happy to help via PM if you would like.
@MReader The way I worded my last post was wrong. I should have said they are only providing me $40,000 for two years, but they want me to split that to cover $20,000 per year for my first two years.
@KatMT Right now I don’t really have a plan for years 3 and 4. My parents literally told me to “find some money”. I have no doubt that I will have take out loans for those years. Thanks for your help! I really appreciate it!
Is it possible to transfer from the BA to the BFA as a Sophomore at the University of Minnesota? At the beginning of this application process, my son decided he wanted to be in a BA program. He was accepted into University of Minnesota, but did not audition for the BFA. As time goes on, his love for acting, especially Shakespeare, becomes more clear. Were he to enroll at UofM in the BA program, is it possible to audition for the BFA as an enrolled student? If so, do you ‘start from scratch’ with the other 19 students in your ensemble?
Definitely look into opportunities to be an RA for years 2-4. Most schools give free room (if not board) for RAs.
@IntuitiveMom there have been kids on here who started as a BA at Minn and auditioned 2nd year for the BFA. I believe you do start over as the BFA is a very set 4 year program. May have less
Gen eds to do as you already did some year one as a BA.
My understanding is that the BA and BFA are completely different programs at Minnesota so the theater classes don’t overlap. Good luck
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/20560835/#Comment_20560835 take a look at post #19…scary stuff.
@marg928 -It’s very true. The market is very saturated in NY right now and if anyone thinks that a particular school will guarantee them getting booked, they are dreaming. That is why I always tell the kids I know thinking of going to school for theatre- do NOT go into debt!
@WhiteRaven1 I went back to read the beginning of your journey, and it seems that your parents have limits to the amount of money they can contribute and are unsure about a BFA concentration. In terms of giving advice, I’m just a Virginia mom, but I’d check in with VCU at the end of this week for some waitlist movement. I imagine things will be opening up after spring break week.
My D and I looked at VCU very seriously and it has a lot of advantages that may suit you. First of all, that $40,000 over four years pays about half of your costs. The theatre program starts as a BA program, which may make your parents feel more secure about a greater financial contribution. They have connections to theaters in the city, and you seem like a go-getter who could take advantage of those opportunities. It’s true that doesn’t have the reputation of some of your other choices, and you’d have to be comfortable with the large school and urban setting. But in the end, a theatre program is what you make of it.
I’d be the last one to talk down Shenandoah - it’s a lovely, supportive place with great faculty. I hope that your scholarships work out and I’m so glad that your heard from a representative of the school to stay in touch there. I just don’t read much on CC about VCU and I think it’s worth following up on and considering.
@IntuitiveMom - It’s definitely not possible to transfer into the UMN/Guthrie BFA program from the BA program. It is of course possible to audition for the UMN/Guthrie BFA program if you’re already enrolled as a student elsewhere in the University of Minnesota. But the BA Theatre students have no admissions advantage in that case. And also, yes, if accepted into the BFA program, the student has to start over and complete all four years with their BFA cohort. A student who did this would be able to take a lighter load of classes some of their semesters in the BFA program, having gotten some of their gen eds out of the way during that first year in the BA program. But the cost would still be that of 5 full years of college due to the way the credits work at the UofMN.
@MReader I 100% agree with you about VCU! It is a really great school and I have family down in Richmond. Not to mention a majority of my high school friends are going there too. The price is also a huge plus! It’s just the fact that I was waitlisted. Part of me figured it would be a while because the letter they sent said that they would notify me by June. I will definitely call this week to check in with them! Hopefully it’s good news!