<p>don't worry so much... a lot of schools are moving toward the trend of not ranking (mine is. right now they say they don't rank, but if you ask them to report your rank they will... they intend on gradually fading ranking out though). I don't think it should hurt your admissions odds too much.</p>
<p>My counselor told me that they just send the GPA and percents to the colleges...This can't be good.</p>
<p>Do you know the acceptance rate of #1'ers, anyone?</p>
<p>i'm from the Uk which just doesnt rank atall. I got placed in the Top 10% of my class and my School is ranked third best mixed sex school in the country. Will not having an exact class rank effect my chances plus i am kinda worried that Harvard wont know how selective my school is since is in the UK.
Thanks
Tom</p>
<p>GeorgeS, i'm not sure if this is valid but i did hear one time that harvard turns away something like half the valedictorians that apply.</p>
<p>Yeah, but that's a lot less than the overall 90% turn away.
I wonder how many val/1600/2400s they turn away..?</p>
<p>Very very few. I'd say 90% acceptance rate for valedictorian 1600/2400. Actually maybe even 95-99%.</p>
<p>****..... my school doesnt rank either....... :(</p>
<p>i doubt the acceptance rate for a val 1600/2400 is that high. i hope it is though, considering i am pretty close to that. but i'm afraid that those kinda stats show a nerdy exterior, which i'm sure harvard could fill itself 10x over with. so they prolly somehwat avoid that type of person. maybe</p>
<p>1600 alone gets you something like 40-50% acceptance
I think valedictorian might have a < 50% acceptance rate (I know Harvard has enough valedictorians apply that they could fill an entire class with them)
I've never heard any stats on how much 3x800 sat iis help</p>
<p>Non-statistically, I'm a #1/1600/3x800 who got in, but I think my ECs and such are pretty good too.</p>
<p>If there is a 50% chance of rejection with a 1600 and 50% with being Val,
Then there's a 75% chance of acceptance if you have both. (1-.5x.5)
So yes, it will help.</p>
<p>if only statistics were actually that easy</p>
<p>i'd imagine a greater # of valedictorians have 1600s than the general applicant pool... in addition, having both val + 1600 might mean more to adcoms than having one or the other (or maybe it means less)</p>
<p>but yes, it will help :-P</p>
<p>Yeah, appliedmath, that's not how conditional probability works. I'm pretty sure that there are more high schools in the United States than there are admittees to each year's class at Harvard, so I think it is literally true that Harvard could fill a whole entering class with valedictorians (if it so desired), as long as enough of those valedictorians submitted applications. </p>
<p>I don't think the observed strong advantage of 1600 students and valedictorians in the admission process of the most selective schools is so much a direct effect ("we want only valedictorians here") as it is an indirect effect ("this applicant is more competitive than this applicant from the same school"). A person with a lower than top class rank is outranked by applicants from his own school, and a person with a score of 1500 on the SAT I is outranked by thousands of people around the country. Not everyone with high stats even applies at Harvard, but enough do to make Harvard's applicant pool quite competitive, if numbers were all that the admissions officers looked at. (They look at other things too, which is why high numbers alone aren't a winning strategy for admission every time.) </p>
<p>Having high stats is mostly about demonstrating preparation that results from years of taking on academic challenges. Probability of admission goes up as stats go up, but enough things are unequal about applicants and their life circumstances and ECs that stats don't tell the whole story.</p>
<p>wait, so if your school doesn't rank, it hurts your chances?</p>
<p>bummer</p>
<p>no it doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help as much as being able to write 1 outta #, or something like that. on the other hand, if you're 49/500, then not ranking will help you a lot, cuz the college will prolly get "top 10%".</p>
<p>Kenli792, which school are you in? Arcadia or Whitney? Probably, Harvard --Westlake?</p>
<p>Fallinwater- I go to La Canada</p>
<p>What about u?</p>
<p>Rowland, you probably never heard about it, full of asian and latino.</p>
<p>yay, more LA ppl here on CC :)</p>
<p>welcome fellow socal'ers.....but on a sadder note...being deferred blows :(</p>
<p>arghhh</p>
<p>La Ca</p>