Ok so maybe I don’t know how to do math @osuprof. It may be undeniable that it is getting incrementally harder to get into Harvard each year, but I don’t think it’s 2X or 3X times harder to get in for an American student over the last ten years as the regular decision admit rates would seem to indicate. I think there are a ton of applications from China over that period that are filling up the rejection pile and skewing the acceptance rate.
Well, I don’t know how much harder it is getting or not getting. I know of a school in my area that about 20 Asians that were National Merit Semi-finalists. And pretty much all had rigorous courses and excellent grades.
Across all of them, I believe there is one acceptance to Dartmouth, and that may be all for top 15 schools! If odds are this low for NMSFs, I do not know what to say.
Here is Bowdoin
http://bowdoinorient.com/2017/03/31/acceptance-rate-lowest-ever-two-thirds-waive-fee/
13.4 percent admit rate overall-- of 7,251 applicants
Thanks for Bowdoin
And for early decision data:
How to increase applications and lower your admit rate in one easy step.
Interesting comment from the dean of admissions. Maybe add Bowdoin to the Amherst–Williams group of low key ED schools. If there’s no advantage, why apply ED?
About the dumbest comment I have heard from an AO. Penn actually plays up the ED as an admissions advantage as it should.
Adding Bowdoin (it’s a bit rough because the data is sketchy from the article and I do not think Bowdoin includes the Questbridge applications):
Harvard RD 1118 out of 33,033 (3.4%)
Princeton RD 1120 out of 26,053 (4.3%)(waitlist,1168=4.5%, Yield,1308=69.2%)
Yale RD 1401 out of 27,814 (5.0%)(Yield,1550=69.2%)
Columbia ED/RD 2185 out of 37,389 (5.8%)
Brown RD 1927 out of 29,554 (6.5%)(Deferred accepted,100=5.4%, waitlist,1000=3.4%)
MIT RD 781 out of 11,853 (6.6%)
Penn RD 2345 out of 34,266 (6.8%)(Yield,2445=66.1%)
Duke RD 2255 out of ~30,884 (7.3%)(58 deferred accepted=8.6%)
MIT EA 657 out of 8394 (7.8%) (def=69.7%, rej=22.4%)
Pomona ED/RD ~742 out of 9046 (8.2%)
Dartmouth RD 1537 out of 18,035 (8.5%)
Vanderbilt RD 2382 out of 27,841 (8.6%)
Swarthmore ED/RD 960 out of 9383 (10.2%)(Yield,405=42.1%)
Johns Hopkins RD 2542 out of 24,644 (10.3%)
Cornell RD ~4510 out of 41,654 (10.8%)(waitlist,5713=13.7%)
Bowdoin RD 719 out of ~6264 (11.5%)
Georgetown EA 931 out of 7822 (11.9%)(def=88.1%)
Williams College RD 996 out of 7865 (12.7%)
Boston University ED2 ~274 out of 2039 (~13.4%)
Harvard SCEA 938 out of 6473 (14.5%)
Colorado College ED1/ED2/EA/RD 1212 out of 8215 (14.7%)
Barnard 1139 out of 7716 (14.8%)
Princeton SCEA 770 out of 5003 (15.4%)
Wesleyan ED1/ED2/RD ~1932 out 12,543 (15.4%)
Washington University in St. Louis ED/RD ~4875 out of 30,464 (16%)
USC RD 8980 out of 56,000 (16.0%)
Middlebury RD 1350 out of ~8082 (16.7%)(Yield,705=40.2%)
Yale SCEA 871 out of 5086 (17.1%) (def=52.7%, rej=28.6%)
Georgetown RD 2382 out of 13,643 (17.5%)(Yield, 1600=48.3%)
Georgia Tech RD (IS/OOS) 2917 out of 15,769 (18.5%)
Haverford ED/RD 859 out of 4424 (19.4%)
UCLA RD (IS/OOS) ~20,400 out of 102,000 (~20%)
Carleton College ED1/ED2/RD ~1300 out of 6500 (~20%)(Yield,520=~40%)(ED1/ED2=~208)
Rice ED 329 out of 1604 (20.5%)
Wellesley ED1/ED2/RD ~1197 out of 5700 (~21%)
Emory RD 4698 out of 22,201 (21.2%)
UVA RD (OOS) 2342 out of 10,897 (21.5%)
Brown ED 695 out of 3170 (21.9%)(def=60%, rej=18%)
Georgia Tech EA (OOS) ~2300 out of 11,515 (~21%)
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
UVA EA (OOS) 3339 out of 14,968 (22.3%)
Vanderbilt ED1/ED2 __ out of __ (23.6%)
Carnegie Mellon ED 330 out of 1375 (24.0%)
Notre Dame REA 1470 out of 6020 (24.4%) (893 def=14.8%)
Duke ED 861 out of 3516 (24.5%)(def,671=19.1%)
UVA RD (IS/OOS) 4043 out of 16,361 (24.7%)
Boston University RD 14,013 out of 56,634 (24.7%)(Yield,3400=22.4%)
**Bowdoin ED1/ED2 244 out of ~976 (~25%) **
Wake Forest RD ~2750 out of 11,000 (~25%)(Yield,1350=38.6%)
Cornell ED ~1379 out of 5384 (25.6%)(def=20.9%, rej=53.5%)
Northwestern ED ~963 out of 3736 (~25.7%)
Dartmouth ED 555 out of 1999 (27.8%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS/OOS) 4380 out of 15,715 (27.9%)
Boston University ED1/ED2 ~1190 out of 4181 (~28.5%)
UVA EA (IS/OOS) 5914 out of 20,446 (28.9%)(def,5458=26.7%; rej,9074=44.4%)
Tulane EA 6480 out of 22,256 (29.1%)
Tufts ED1/ED2 ~675 out of 2310 (~29.2%)
Trinity College RD 1691 out of 5655 (30.0%)
UVA RD (IS) 1701 out of 5664 (30.0%)
Johns Hopkins ED 591 out of 1934 (30.6%)
Emory ED 474 out of 1493 (31.7%)
Boston College RD ~6300 out of 28,500 (32.3%)
Boston College EA ~2900 out of 9000 (~33%)(def,3500=38.9%, rej,2500=27.8%)
Williams ED 257 out of 728 (35.3%)
Wake Forest ED1/ED2 ~750 out of 2000 (~37.5%)
Middlebury ED2 60 out of ~155 (38.7%)
University of Florida RD 13,214 out of ~34,000 (~38.9%)
Macalester ED1/ED2/RD ~2301 out of 5901 (~39.0%)
Boston University ED1 916 out of 2142 (42.8%)
Middlebury ED1/ED2 403 out ~828 (48.7%)
UVA EA (IS) 2575 out of 5278 (48.8%)
Fordham EA 9812 out of 19,859 (49.4%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS) ~2080 out of 4200 (~49%)
Middlebury ED1 343 out of 673 (51.0%) (def,60=8.9%, rej,270=40.1%)
William & Mary ED 528 out of 1023 (51.6%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
Fordham ED 156 out of 293 (53.2%)
Trinity College ED1/ED2 315 out of 443 (71.1%)
http://news.stanford.edu/2017/03/31/offers-admission-2050-students-around-world/
Stanford University has offered admission to 2,050 students, including 721 applicants who were accepted last December through the early action program, the Office of Undergraduate Admission announced today.
Richard H. Shaw, dean of admission and financial aid, said the Class of 2021 was carefully selected from 44,073 candidates, the largest application pool in Stanford’s history. The admitted students come from all 50 states and 82 countries…
http://news.stanford.edu/2017/03/31/offers-admission-2050-students-around-world/
[quote]
Stanford offers admission to 2,050 students from around the world
The university announced today that 2,050 high school students have been admitted to the Class of 2021 from a pool of 44,073.
Stanford University has offered admission to 2,050 students, including 721 applicants who were accepted last December through the early action program, the Office of Undergraduate Admission announced today.
Richard H. Shaw, dean of admission and financial aid, said the Class of 2021 was carefully selected from 44,073 candidates, the largest application pool in Stanford’s history. The admitted students come from all 50 states and 82 countries.
I guess when you’re the most selective university in the US you don’t have to calculate admit rates… that’s why we have Sprayurpets:)
by my calculation Stanford’s admit rate hit a new all time low for college admissions 4.65%
It will reach 3.6 by class of 2025
Interestingly enough, Stanford took fewer students this year on about the same number of applications to achieve the lower acceptance rate. I seem to recall them talking about expanding the class size. Adding:
Harvard RD 1118 out of 33,033 (3.4%)
Princeton RD 1120 out of 26,053 (4.3%)(waitlist,1168=4.5%, Yield,1308=69.2%)
Stanford REA/RD 2050 out of 44,073 (4.6%)
Yale RD 1401 out of 27,814 (5.0%)(Yield,1550=69.2%)
Columbia ED/RD 2185 out of 37,389 (5.8%)
Brown RD 1927 out of 29,554 (6.5%)(Deferred accepted,100=5.4%, waitlist,1000=3.4%)
MIT RD 781 out of 11,853 (6.6%)
Penn RD 2345 out of 34,266 (6.8%)(Yield,2445=66.1%)
Duke RD 2255 out of ~30,884 (7.3%)(58 deferred accepted=8.6%)
MIT EA 657 out of 8394 (7.8%) (def=69.7%, rej=22.4%)
Pomona ED/RD ~742 out of 9046 (8.2%)
Dartmouth RD 1537 out of 18,035 (8.5%)
Vanderbilt RD 2382 out of 27,841 (8.6%)
Swarthmore ED/RD 960 out of 9383 (10.2%)(Yield,405=42.1%)
Johns Hopkins RD 2542 out of 24,644 (10.3%)
Cornell RD ~4510 out of 41,654 (10.8%)(waitlist,5713=13.7%)
Bowdoin RD 719 out of ~6264 (11.5%)
Georgetown EA 931 out of 7822 (11.9%)(def=88.1%)
Williams College RD 996 out of 7865 (12.7%)
Boston University ED2 ~274 out of 2039 (~13.4%)
Harvard SCEA 938 out of 6473 (14.5%)
Colorado College ED1/ED2/EA/RD 1212 out of 8215 (14.7%)
Barnard 1139 out of 7716 (14.8%)
Princeton SCEA 770 out of 5003 (15.4%)
Wesleyan ED1/ED2/RD ~1932 out 12,543 (15.4%)
Washington University in St. Louis ED/RD ~4875 out of 30,464 (16%)
USC RD 8980 out of 56,000 (16.0%)
Middlebury RD 1350 out of ~8082 (16.7%)(Yield,705=40.2%)
Yale SCEA 871 out of 5086 (17.1%) (def=52.7%, rej=28.6%)
Georgetown RD 2382 out of 13,643 (17.5%)(Yield, 1600=48.3%)
Georgia Tech RD (IS/OOS) 2917 out of 15,769 (18.5%)
Haverford ED/RD 859 out of 4424 (19.4%)
UCLA RD (IS/OOS) ~20,400 out of 102,000 (~20%)
Carleton College ED1/ED2/RD ~1300 out of 6500 (~20%)(Yield,520=~40%)(ED1/ED2=~208)
Rice ED 329 out of 1604 (20.5%)
Wellesley ED1/ED2/RD ~1197 out of 5700 (~21%)
Emory RD 4698 out of 22,201 (21.2%)
UVA RD (OOS) 2342 out of 10,897 (21.5%)
Brown ED 695 out of 3170 (21.9%)(def=60%, rej=18%)
Georgia Tech EA (OOS) ~2300 out of 11,515 (~21%)
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
UVA EA (OOS) 3339 out of 14,968 (22.3%)
Vanderbilt ED1/ED2 __ out of __ (23.6%)
Carnegie Mellon ED 330 out of 1375 (24.0%)
Notre Dame REA 1470 out of 6020 (24.4%) (893 def=14.8%)
Duke ED 861 out of 3516 (24.5%)(def,671=19.1%)
UVA RD (IS/OOS) 4043 out of 16,361 (24.7%)
Boston University RD 14,013 out of 56,634 (24.7%)(Yield,3400=22.4%)
Bowdoin ED1/ED2 244 out of ~976 (~25%)
Wake Forest RD ~2750 out of 11,000 (~25%)(Yield,1350=38.6%)
Cornell ED ~1379 out of 5384 (25.6%)(def=20.9%, rej=53.5%)
Northwestern ED ~963 out of 3736 (~25.7%)
Dartmouth ED 555 out of 1999 (27.8%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS/OOS) 4380 out of 15,715 (27.9%)
Boston University ED1/ED2 ~1190 out of 4181 (~28.5%)
UVA EA (IS/OOS) 5914 out of 20,446 (28.9%)(def,5458=26.7%; rej,9074=44.4%)
Tulane EA 6480 out of 22,256 (29.1%)
Tufts ED1/ED2 ~675 out of 2310 (~29.2%)
Trinity College RD 1691 out of 5655 (30.0%)
UVA RD (IS) 1701 out of 5664 (30.0%)
Johns Hopkins ED 591 out of 1934 (30.6%)
Emory ED 474 out of 1493 (31.7%)
Boston College RD ~6300 out of 28,500 (32.3%)
Boston College EA ~2900 out of 9000 (~33%)(def,3500=38.9%, rej,2500=27.8%)
Williams ED 257 out of 728 (35.3%)
Wake Forest ED1/ED2 ~750 out of 2000 (~37.5%)
Middlebury ED2 60 out of ~155 (38.7%)
University of Florida RD 13,214 out of ~34,000 (~38.9%)
Macalester ED1/ED2/RD ~2301 out of 5901 (~39.0%)
Boston University ED1 916 out of 2142 (42.8%)
Middlebury ED1/ED2 403 out ~828 (48.7%)
UVA EA (IS) 2575 out of 5278 (48.8%)
Fordham EA 9812 out of 19,859 (49.4%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS) ~2080 out of 4200 (~49%)
Middlebury ED1 343 out of 673 (51.0%) (def,60=8.9%, rej,270=40.1%)
William & Mary ED 528 out of 1023 (51.6%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
Fordham ED 156 out of 293 (53.2%)
Trinity College ED1/ED2 315 out of 443 (71.1%)
Stanford’s yield went up… its Yield is the highest of any university… 82% if I remember correctly.
Davidson?
Does anyone have statistics for Oberlin?
Can you please post RD stats for Notre Dame? (Vassar and Colgate as well if that’s possible)
Also just RD at Bates, Carleton, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury and Wesleyan if available
What are the chances of getting accepted from the Harvard wait list?
@Cariño & @keiekei: Columbia’s (freshmen straight-from-HS fall) admit rate is not directly comparable to any other elite private’s because 1/3 of their traditional undergraduate student body are in SGS and thus not counted in the USNews admit stats even though SGS students also use resources, increase the school size, and contributes tuition. Also, they have a few hundred 3-2 engineering transfer students who also are not counted in the USNews admit stats even though they also use resources, increase the school size, and contribute tuition. Also they have Barnard and other affiliated students also using Columbia resources and increasing the school size.
No other elite private has anywhere as large a percentage of their traditional undergraduate student body (or even total undergraduate student body, counting students who graduate from extension schools and the like) who did not come in through the freshman fall cohort (that these acceptance rates reflect) and go on to earn an undergraduate degree from that institution.
I think this is why Columbia does not release a Common Data Set, because it would show that nearly half (or possibly even more than half, if you count Barnard students) of Columbia’s bachelor degree holders did not come in through the freshman fall cohort that Columbia reports acceptance numbers for. Also that Columbia has big class sizes.
Mind you, I think that SGS and the 3-2 Combined Plan are terrific in that they offer great opportunities to people who otherwise may not have them, but it also shows how senseless it is to judge a school by its traditional freshman fall admit rate.