College Football Discussion 08

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I see USC losing to a Pac-10 team this year.

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Wow!...I'm shocked my prediction came true so early in the season...:D</p>

<p>Haha, I am just glad they lost to us!</p>

<p>I can't believe USC lost. :'(
Pete Carrol doesn't know how to use talent. -_-</p>

<p>I am not a fan of USC Trojans but I am still upset Mark Sanchez managed to throw that critical interception and lose the game. The Trojan defense could not figure out how to stop the Beavers' running the entire night; what a sad day to be in the West Coast. Another predictable SEC&Big12 fest.</p>

<p>Upset weekend. x]
USC effing lost to Oregon St. -_-
Florida lost to Ole Miss. XD
Alabama simply raping Georgia 31-0.
Wisconsin losing to Michigan.
Clemson losing to the Terps.
Navy beating Wake Forest.</p>

<p>Haha. The "lulz."</p>

<p>^^This is why I love college football.</p>

<p>I am entertained that Georgia lost (41-30) due to the fact that they were all so excited about the game that they pulled the 'black-out' and kept bragging how they were going to kill Alabama and were dressed for their funeral. Oh, I may be enrolled there, but I can still laugh at how badly they jinxed themselves by bragging long before the game even happened.</p>

<p>AP Top 25
RANK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1. Texas (39) 6-0
2. Alabama (26) 6-0
3. Penn State 7-0
4. Oklahoma 5-1
5. Florida 5-1
6. USC 4-1
7. Texas Tech 6-0
8. Oklahoma State 6-0
9. Brigham Young 6-0
10. Georgia 5-1
11. Missouri 5-1
12. Ohio State 6-1<br>
13. LSU 4-1
14. Utah 7-0
15. Boise State 5-0<br>
16. Kansas 5-1
17. Virginia Tech 5-1
18. North Carolina 5-1
19. South Florida 5-1
20. Michigan State 6-1
21. Wake Forest 4-1
22. Vanderbilt 5-1
23. Pittsburgh 4-1
24. Ball State 7-0
25. California 4-1 </p>

<h1>1, #3 and #4 went down on the same day, not to mention a couple of lower ranked teams like Auburn and Vanderbilt. Thoughts?</h1>

<p>Thoughts? College football rules =O</p>

<p>The Coaches love USC. They are ranked 4 ahead of a few notable unbeatens, Ok State, BYU and Texas Tech. It's interesting and I'm not quite sure why USC gets the vote of confidence although I think USC with Pete Carroll has enough goodwill built up to offset a poor offensive performance last week. Thankfully USC plays Wazzu this week and are 42 point favorites.</p>

<p>Personally, I am rooting for BCS anarchy and think if everyone ends up with a loss somewhere, an SEC or Big 12 team will get screwed. I also think there will be a possibility of another split championship.</p>

<p>USC is the unrisky choice - they win big games. With a couple exceptions (2003 Cal, 2005 Texas, 2007 Oregon) USC shines in marquee games against very highly ranked opponents. </p>

<p>If you're ranking teams based on who would be more likely to win a game played today, then USC deserves that #4 ranking</p>

<p>Can anyone see USC in the NC game? Their advantage is that they've lost once early in the season, which hurts much less in the polls than losing in November or late October. USC, should they learn their lesson and maintain momentum, will continue to roll over hapless PAC-10 opponents and not let a Oregon State surprise stun them again. They get a currently-ranked California at home; they also get Notre Dame at home. The Washington teams look abysmal, UCLA looks abysmal (but could still present a trap game: see the 2006 season), and Stanford will NOT triumph twice in a row. </p>

<p>If USC keeps winning and the teams from the SEC and the Big 12 keep knocking each other around, the Trojans stay under the radar and could end up #2 by the end of the season. </p>

<p>For sure the SEC and the Big 12 will have no undefeated teams. Their best will be once-beatens, and they will probably have a litter of extremely good two-loss teams (see 2007 LSU). Question being: does a 1-loss SEC/Big-12 team trump a 1-loss USC when it comes to picking the title game matchup? Heck, does, say, a 2-loss Florida or 2-loss OK beat a 1-loss USC from the "weakling" PAC-10? </p>

<p>Since I'm mentioning the importance of conferences, I have to ask: should these teams go unbeaten, how much would people nationwide actually want to see Penn State or BYU in the NC game? Penn State is from the much-maligned Big 10, BYU as a Mountain West team will be derided in a similar fashion as Hawaii and Boise State were. </p>

<p>And, what if: tOSU runs the table, with Penn State's only loss from tOSU? Which means two top-fifteen Big-10 teams with just one loss-- where would they end up, bowl-wise?</p>

<p>If UT ends up with a 1-loss, I can't see them finishing behind USC, since UT's strength of schedule is so much harder. Seriously, USC doesn't even play half as many ranked teams as a team from the Big XII.</p>

<p>I think UT will lose at least one game this season (although I hope they won't). If you want to talk about waltzing into the national championship, look no further than Penn State. They have a cupcake conference, and are pretty much done with playing tough teams. The other spot in the national championship will most likely be a one-loss Big XII team (although I can see Bama, Florida, or another SEC team take that spot too).</p>

<p>3 Reasons USC will be in the title game:.</p>

<p>1, The schedule is not as weak as people say.
Virginia (3-3), Ohio State (6-1), Oregon State (3-3), Oregon (5-2), Arizona State (2-4), Washington State (1-6), Arizona (4-2), Washington (0-5), Cal (4-1), Stanford (4-3), Notre Dame (4-2), UCLA (2-4)</p>

<p>That's 8 teams that are currently .500 or above, and likely at least 7 of them will go to a bowl. Plus there's (or will be, if USC wins out) quality wins over Ohio State (especially if they beat Penn State), Oregon, and Cal (who had beat Michigan State)</p>

<p>2, history suggests it. A 1-loss USC would have for-sure been in the 2006 and 2007 national championship games (and probably won them, too, considering that it would have been against Ohio State both times)</p>

<p>3, it's still upset-time. 2007 was the year of the upset, but 2008 will figure to be the same. The new clock rules make it far more difficult for top-ranked teams to make a comeback if they fall behind in a game (case in point, with the old clock rules, USC might still be undefeated!)</p>

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Can anyone see USC in the NC game?

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<p>Sure, they're USC. BCS LOVES putting them in places they don't deserve. Example: When they were beat by an unranked opponent, they only fell from 1 to like 8. Meanwhile, when Georgia got beat by Alabama (ranked 6 or 8 at the time), they fell down to like 11 or 12.</p>

<p>3 Reasons USC will not will be in the title game:</p>

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<li><p>They played Oregon State this year(which Penn State killed).</p></li>
<li><p>Penn State is going to win out</p></li>
<li><p>Either the SEC or Big 12 will have a conference champion that is more deserving of the title shot.</p></li>
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<p>USC plays in a terrible conference. The Pac 10 is terrible in football this year. They went, what, 1-5 against the MWC? They don't deserve a title shot this year. It's that simple.</p>

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Meanwhile, when Georgia got beat by Alabama (ranked 6 or 8 at the time), they fell down to like 11 or 12.

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<p>Of course, USC had already blown out the then-#5 team in the country (and still ranked in the top-15) in Ohio State.</p>

<p>And what teams has Georgia beaten? People don't care about blowouts over Georgia Southern and Central Michigan and their signature win is over a decent, unranked South Carolina team. Bring the rankings up again after Georgia downs Vandy and LSU.</p>

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Can anyone see USC in the NC game?

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If USC keeps winning

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The SC Condoms need to become big fans of the Beavers for the rest of the season...;)</p>

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USC plays in a terrible conference. The Pac 10 is terrible in football this year.

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jec, your conference hasn't really been representing the epitome of college football for the last few years either...</p>

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The SC Condoms need to become big fans of the Beavers for the rest of the season

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<p>You know, interestingly, even if the Beavers and the Trojans both win out and OSU goes to the Rose Bowl, USC still has a shot at another BCS bowl game, even if it isn't the NC game. The funny thing about the system is that you don't have to win your conference to go to a BCS game. </p>

<p>Since the Rose Bowl requires it, the Beavers, should they win out, will be playing a Big-10 opponent. If the Trojans also win out, they might be selected to another BCS bowl with a major SEC or Big 12 opponent. And USC vs. Florida/Georgia/LSU/Alabama/Texas/OK? Waaaay more interesting than a USC vs. Penn State/Ohio State rematch. </p>

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USC plays in a terrible conference. The Pac 10 is terrible in football this year. They went, what, 1-5 against the MWC?

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<p>This is the "Ohio State in the NC Game/Boise State or Hawaii as a BCS buster" argument-- that the conference quality outweighs the win ratio.</p>

<p>If you look at more dominant conferences, their conference games might be more challenging, but their OOC games are generally a joke. You can't tell me that doesn't help these conferences "pad" things out. The Big 12 has OK, Texas and Missouri, they also choose to play UT Chattanooga, Florida Atlantic, Southeast Missouri State, Nevada and Buffalo. The SEC has Florida, LSU, Alabama and Georgia, they also regularly choose to schedule OOC games against Louisiana-Monroe, North Texas, Troy, Western Kentucky, Arkansas State, Central Michigan and Georgia Southern. And don't tell me the Big 10 doesn't benefit from games with Youngstown State, Ohio, Troy, Coastal Carolina and Syracuse. </p>

<p>I don't see how Florida Atlantic, Louisiana-Monroe and Georgia Southern are any better than UCLA or Arizona. Because PAC-10 teams play roundtable, USC can't help that it's required to play the Washington teams or Arizona State.</p>