College Football Discussion 09

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<p>Possible, but it’s also possible that neither case happens. If Texas loses:</p>

<p>case 1: TCU or Cincy in title, Orange bowl gets first at large pick and chooses the other of Cincy/TCU. Fiesta can’t pick Texas, so they have to choose between Boise, Iowa, Penn State.</p>

<p>case 2: Cincy in title, Orange picks Texas, Fiesta picks TCU over Boise, Iowa, Penn State</p>

<p>case 3: TCU in title, Orange picks Texas, Fiesta picks between Cincy/Boise, my guess is Cincy.</p>

<p>So really, if Texas loses, then Boise State better hope that the Orange Bowl doesn’t pick Texas if they want to play in the Fiesta Bowl.</p>

<p>Still, they might want to be passed over. Instead of playing Nebraska (10-3) in the Fiesta, they’ll be the only undefeated left when the Sugar Bowl picks to play against the SEC runner up (12-1)</p>

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<p>So because Neuheisel once did something that was almost as bad as the 7th worst thing Carroll has done in the last two years, then obviously what Carroll did was completely normal. Let’s just forget these two posts: </p>

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<p>Of course it doesn’t matter what everyone else does. Something is either unsportsmanlike or it isn’t, it’s not a popular vote.</p>

<p>But at the same time, you can’t single out Carroll. If that’s what is “running up the score”, then so would most coaches. It would merely be that Carroll has had more opportunities to “run up the score”, whereas Neuheisel only has had one opportunity (and certainly took it to the same extent as Carroll)</p>

<p>Whatever. Neuheisel might only have been trying to help his team, but it was a disrespectful move to Carroll and his team to take that timeout. He should have known it would provoke a response.</p>

<p>Also, in the grand scheme of things, it’s not that important. It’s just a sport. Whether it’s Stanford going for 2, Neuheisel taking a timeout, USC calling for a last second TD. There are a lot, lot, lot worse things that could happen.</p>

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<p>Running up the score would be the Houston/Rice game…59 to 0 at the half!</p>

<p>JCLA whiners look like they don’t have basketball season to bring them much comfort this year either.</p>

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<p>I am rooting for Texas to win the Big 12 so Big 10 will send 2 teams to BCS bowl. That would leave my Cats bowling in Florida. Where are the Bears going, UCB? ;)</p>

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<p>^ Why does the Big 10 get to send two teams to a BCS bowl? It should be TCU and BSU.</p>

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Meh, all are pretty lame…hopefully not the Emerald Bowl again - looks like Stanford is predicted to get that home game consolation prize this year.</p>

<p>Brut Sun Bowl is where we’re predicted to go.
[NCAA</a> College Football BCS Bowl Projections Week 13 - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections]NCAA”>NCAA College Football BCS Bowl Projections Week 1 - ESPN)</p>

<p>Sam, Cal and NU have set up a home and home series in 2013 and 2014:
[Cal</a> And Texas Announce Home-And-Home Series - CAL OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE](<a href=“http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091809aaa.html]Cal”>http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091809aaa.html)</p>

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<p>^Big 10 teams have huge fan bases that travel well, so it makes financial sense for a BCS bowl to pick a Big 10 team. Iowa is 10-2 and has beaten Penn State which is the other 10-2 team without an automatic bid. Based on records, Iowa deserves to go.</p>

<p>Predictions:
BCS championship: Alabama (eh…kind of biased) vs. Texas
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs. TCU
Rose Bowl: Ohio State vs Oregon
Fiesta Bowl: Boise State vs Iowa
Orange Bowl: Georgia Tech vs Cincinnati</p>

<p>These may turn out to be wrong because I wonder if one bowl may want to have a battle between unbeaten teams.</p>

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<p>Florida Gators ! yeahh i aqree !
[INSIDER] i never really watch football .
lol i quess i only ROOT for them cause i was born there .</p>

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<p>UCBChemEGrad,</p>

<p>There are enough BCS slots to fit 2 Big 10 teams AND both BSU and TCU.</p>

<p>SEC/Big 10 2 @ each = 4
Other 4 major conference 1 @ each = 4
BSU + TCU = 2
Total = 10</p>

<p>I agree that Pac-10 tie-ins are pretty lame and the locations are too close to home and too familiar. Big Ten does get some nice locations; Orlando and Tampa are among the best places to go in winter, esp. for peopole in the Midwest.</p>

<p>As for Cal vs NU, check this out:
[YouTube</a> - Mother Cougar vs Grizzly Bear](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MuFDVEUro&feature=related]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MuFDVEUro&feature=related) :D</p>

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<p>I am amazed that people are upset at USC for scoring the final touchdown. USC attempted to end the game quietly (with QB taking a knee).</p>

<p>There was less than 60 seconds to go in the game. USC was up by 2 touchdowns (14 points). USC had the ball, with a 1st down. Per USC’s actions (QB taking a knee), they had no intention of gaining even a single additional yard. (hardly trying to run up the score)</p>

<p>UCLA then chose to take a time out. What was UCLA saying, by taking a timeout? They were communicating clearly that “the game is not over”. They wanted to get the ball back, and they hoped to score, twice.</p>

<p>So, what did UCLA fans want USC to do??</p>

<p>Did UCLA fans hope that USC would not throw any passes, at all?</p>

<p>Or, was it ok to throw a short pass (5-7 yards), but anything over 10-15 yards was not nice, not sportsmanlike? Or, if the USC receiver caught the ball, then he should have fallen down (to be nice, and sportsmanlike). </p>

<p>Would UCLA fans be as upset if the pass had been intercepted by a UCLA player? I guess not. So, in other words, UCLA fans are upset the USC continued to play real football, the same kind of football that Neuheisel would have played if he had gotten the ball back.</p>

<p>Isn’t it a bit disingenuous to hope that UCLA would get the ball and score twice, yet to also expect that USC would not make any real plays?</p>

<p>USC attempted to end the game in a peaceful way (QB taking a knee). It was Neuheisel who chose to take the time out. Carroll then responded accordingly.</p>

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<p>You’ve never seen teams call timeouts at the end of games that aren’t really in doubt? USC should’ve done what every team does in that position, try to get the first down and stay in bounds - nothing more, nothing less.</p>

<p>Now maybe Carroll’s one of those guys that doesn’t believe there’s such a thing as running up the score . . . except he was clearly upset at Stanford’s decision two weeks earlier.</p>

<p>Or maybe he felt that UCLA still had a real chance to win . . . except that he hasn’t mentioned that at all. He simply said that he heard it on the headset and liked the call. Not sure why he would say that, as it’s clearly not true, but whatever.</p>

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<p>UCLA vs San Diego State, UCLA runs 4:48 off the clock to end the game…SDSU leaves 2 timeouts on the board. Against Kansas State, UCLA runs the last :08 off the clock and KSU leaves 2 timeouts…</p>

<p>UCLA vs Arizona State… UCLA takes two knees to run the last 1:15 off the clock. ASU doesn’t spend their last timeout.</p>

<p>Last year UCLA vs Washington…UCLA runs the last 4:45 off the clock, Washington leaves 3 timeouts unused. Against Washington State, UCLA takes a knee to run the last 0:38 off the clock. WSU leaves 3 timeouts unused.</p>

<p>Maybe there are some games out there where the losing team plays the clock despite the game being over. It’s a minor thing, a judgment call. If there was more than 60 seconds left on the clock, maybe I would have called timeout too. </p>

<p>Regardless, it doesn’t really matter in the end. College sports are about passion and sometimes passion overflows a bit. I would rather (say) Harbaugh go for 2 than give the passion up.</p>

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<p>Some coaches do it, some don’t. Neuheisel does, and it had nothing to do with USC.</p>

<p>Some of your examples are very different situations anyway. ASU, for example, had no hope of getting the ball back on the last drive. They did use 2 timeouts on the previous drive though, and UCLA ran the ball up the middle on all 3 plays before punting. Similarly, in the KSU game, taking the timeouts would have just UCLA to take a knee twice more.</p>

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<p>Pete Carroll did the right thing by throwing it deep late in the game. Neuheisel is a ****** for calling the timeout.</p>

<p>I’m rooting for Bama because they would give Texas a better chance of winning. IMO Texas can’t beat Florida & have a better chance against Alabama.</p>

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<p>Was watching Florida-Alabama, but then CBS lost reception for some reason. The biggest game of the year, and I can’t see it…</p>

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<p>So Alabama is in as they will jump to #1. Who will be number 2?</p>

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<p>Texas will be #2 if they win but that’s because they were way ahead in the preseason ranking (relative to Cincy and TCU). That’s really unfair, IMO. Cincy has the same record in a better conference than the Big 12 and they beat a good Oregon State team while Texas played cupcakes in all of its OOC games. What’s the point of scheduling tough OOC games if your team is gonna be ranked high in the preseason because of the name? The way this system works is exactly why most teams (other than Pac-10 teams) don’t want to play Boise State. I’d say TCU probably had a tougher schedule than Texas and has been more impressive as well.</p>

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<p>Not only does DI-A need a playoff system, changes need to be made with schedules too. I think any DI-A team should be allowed to play only other DI-A teams. Maybe allow them to each play ONE DI-AA team in the first or second week of the season. Maybe set up some sort of conference challenges like the Big 12 playing a Big East team; Pac-10 playing Conference USA; SEC playing the MWC, etc. Whatever… SOMETHING needs to be changed…</p>

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<p>Alabama was very impressive today. They should play TCU for the NC, but they’ll probably get Texas instead.</p>

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<p>if I was a voter, I would vote TCU #2. I’m sure it will be Texas though.</p>

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<p>They are allowed to. They can play one game against I-AA (now called FCS) each year that counts toward their bowl eligibility.</p>

<p>UVA paid William and Mary $285,000 for the game this year, and W&M won. It was a great time.</p>