College people who can vote...

<p>Because liking Ron Paul is cool. He's on the youtubess and the non-democrats in college need someone to likez.</p>

<p>I wish i could vote! i miss it by 20 days.</p>

<p>I have really weird political views, so IDK who i would vote for.</p>

<p>Im pro-life (personally, i would never want a loved one to have an abortion), but i think legalized abortion is great. If it was illegal, people would go back to coat hangars. which is more civil? I'm not a girl anyways...not my choice.</p>

<p>I think healthcare needs major reform. I had to have a plantar wart removed...they used some laser for 15 seconds. The bill was 15,000 (well it was more, but thats what oxford actually paid). luckily my family can afford insurance. healthcare should be fixed. </p>

<p>I think Iraq is one of the most horrible "events" in the past century. 1 million iraqis have died. I think us leaving is the best choice, but leaving while trying to clean up the mess. I watched the republican convention thingy in iowa(?) and i heard some messed up plans for iraq (like 3 seperate countries) So...make the sunnis, shiats and kurds move from their homes because we said so? </p>

<p>Im pro-guns. I think the people always should be able to overthrow the government. All the people who shouldnt have guns already have them, so the rest of us should be able to have them as well. People should, however, be responsible for their gun. If their gun kills someone (whether or not they're holding it), the gun owner should be as equally responsible as the shooter.</p>

<p>which leads to (next point)</p>

<p>Patriot Act= tyranny, along with anything else that messes with my Bill of Rights.</p>

<p>i can go on and on. Its funny though, I think I'm the only kid in my high school that has taken the time to form his/her own personal political beliefs, and tries to understand politics. Everyone else just follows their parents or doesn't care.</p>

<p>On a side note: people shouldnt be chastised for believing the 911 conspiracy. The last big attack on US grounds was Pearl Harbor. We let that happen. Its always good to question authority. Keeps 'em in check.</p>

<p>Well personally im a pro-life, pro-gun democrat, so you can probably fit in there, i like Biden's plan for Iraq to be sort of a loose decentralized state, like a confederation, with shared oil revenue etc (an over-simplification but thats the gist)</p>

<p>Biden does sound very well informed about Iraq. He's always impressive at debates when it comes to that subject.</p>

<p>lol no Gravel's? Funny guy haha</p>

<p>'failed health care' is one of the most ridiculous terms I've seen in awhile. It sounds like you get your facts from a Michael Moore movie. Actually, now that I think about it I think there was one about health care.</p>

<p>Since when is health care a right? And how exactly is health care "failing"?</p>

<p>(Just playing devil's advocate here- my views don't necessarily line up with the implication of the above questions.)</p>

<p>People who like Ron Paul: Remember what happened to Howard Dean?</p>

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<p>Since when are police protection and fire departments a right? And yet, you'll find few Americans arguing that we need to get rid of them or arguing that they need to be privately supported instead of supported by taxes. In my mind, it's the same thing. If we have a duty to protect our citizens from dying in a house fire if possible, why don't we have a duty to keep them from dying from cancer if possible. And yet, 18,000 people die each year as a direct result of having no health insurance according to Sen. Edward Kennedy on the floor of the Senate based on a study that came out approximately three years ago--again, I can find the source if necessary. The same study was referred to in <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/lalasz04232007.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.counterpunch.org/lalasz04232007.html&lt;/a> this past April; the same article cited a CBS/NY Times poll that found that 9 out of 10 Americans think that the US Health System "needs to be 'completely rebuilt'". In my opinion, when 90% of people polled (by a reputable source) think that a system needs to be totally revamped, that's a sign of a failing system.</p>

<p>For the record, I haven't seen Sicko because it didn't come to my town. From the press coverage that I watched and read, I imagine that the same conclusions were reached. However, please don't make the mistake of assuming that I'm getting all of my opinions or facts from one movie.</p>

<p>Amen Ginnyvere,</p>

<p>In every industrial country in the world health care is a right, im a bit of a nationalist, so i think that in a country as great as America, as rich as America it should be a right here too. England has had universal health care since 1948.</p>

<p>And a system is failed because 50 million people are left out of it, and those in it get shafted by their insurance companies daily.</p>

<p>You have to be ridiciously privelleged and be totally blind to human suffering not to support an expansion of Medicare/universal health care.</p>

<p>"If you can spend money to kill people, you can spend money to help people"- Tony Benn</p>

<p>I love how so many people who don't believe in universal healthcare are also militantly pro-life and pro-guns ... god forbid we should terminate a pregnancy, but who the hell cares about live people's welfare?</p>

<p>Don't forget pro-death penalty lol</p>

<p>The European Union is begging Texas not to execute the 400th person (ya that's right...texas has executed 400 people!) because it's so barbaric. My, how we look to other countries...</p>

<p>If you want to not look so bad to other countries, you probably shouldn't call this country "America" since America is a continent and not a country. Just saying.</p>

<p>People against universal health care don't want it to happen for usually one of these three reasons: tax increase,family member that's a doctor, or the term "socialized" makes them fear a communist/socialist takeover(because we all know that communism and socialism are EVIL). </p>

<p>Tax increase is kind of understandable. I mean really, I don't want an increase to taxes, it sucks for me. But these same people really just care about themselves and their own family, so as long as they have health insurance who cares? This is the attitude of many in this country because we are used to the way things are and generally overreact to drastic change. Many people had no problem with an increase in taxes to fund a very expensive war, but their mindset is more on "America" being "in charge" rather then actually helping citizens in the country. England implemented their universal health care after being bombed to hell so they had to start new. The people in charge have health insurance and feel no reason to change this.</p>

<p>Yes, Huey, we understand the reasons behind American Conservatism, but that doesn't mean we agree with them.</p>

<p>And yes, I agree that it's annoying when people refer to the U.S. as 'America,' but it's not only Americans who do it. Most people who don't live on this continent refer to the U.S. as 'America,' but having lived in Mexico, I know first-hand how offensive it is to our fellow 'Americans.'</p>

<p>Off topic, but it's also really annoying when people refer to Mexico as being in South or Central America. Don't do it!</p>

<p>I had no idea referring to the U.S as America was offensive...I won't be making that mistake again.</p>

<p>And yikes, I can't believe people would call Mexico a part of South or Central America...</p>

<p>I wasn't talking about American conservatism I was talking about universal health care. Just because someone is against universal health care does not make them a conservative. Also, don't be so quick to think that people "know" the reasons behind anything. Most people just agree with mommy and daddy.</p>

<p>1) There will not be a tax increase, long-term we will actually save money, short term, perhaps the bush tax cuts for those earning over 250k will not be renewed, but there will be no additional taxes needed, just a reappropriation of the budget, we have a far too regressive tax system anyway.</p>

<p>2) Doctors will earn more money in a universal health care system, especially general practioneers, its true the salaries of some specialist might level off a bit to the level of general doctors (which will raise)</p>

<p>3) Our economy is getting far too deregulated and privitzed, we have a mixed economy, having a system of social welfare isnt evil, and it doesn't trample on individual rights, having Americans pay billions in tax dollars for an unneeded war we dont agree with is.</p>

<p>Oh and I am personally pro-gun, pro-life (though i dont want immediate repeal of Roe V Wade, its just a personal view on abortion)</p>

<p>I support Universal Health Care. Not sure if that was just completely adressed to me or not, but you are preaching to the converted.</p>

<p>nope man i got you, i was just refuting some of the points you made when you were trying to play devil's advocate</p>

<p>honestly ron paul is not a decent candidate... he doesnt help himself by isolating himself from the gop by wanting withdrawal from iraq despite his liberatarian views. mccain definitely wants to go back to the days of reagan, he's attempting to limit pork-barrel spending... plus he has some kick a** border enforcement plans to ensure illegal immigrants dont have amnesty</p>