<p>We are looking for a college with a decent program.</p>
<p>My son is very talented in science, especially Chemistry; he has not applied himself like he should have overall, so I don't expect him to get into a top school.</p>
<p>Looking in Northeast/Mid Atlantic.</p>
<p>Any suggestions would be appreciated.</p>
<p>University of Delaware
Penn State-UP
University of Maryland-CP
University of Pittsburgh
Suny Stony Brook</p>
<p>These are from US news</p>
<p>Gourman Report undergrad chemistry ranking (excludes LACs):
Caltech
UC Berkeley
Harvard
MIT
Columbia
Stanford
Illimois Urbana Champaign
U Chicago
UCLA
Wisconsin Madison
Cornell
Northwestern
Princeton
Yale
Purdue
UNC Chapel Hill
Ohio State
Texas Austin
Iowa State
Indiana Bloomington
UC San Diego
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Penn State
Brown
U Rochester
Carnegie Mellon
U Penn
Rice
Michigan Ann Arbor
U Washington
Colorado Boulder
Texas A&M
USC
U Pittsburgh
U Florida
UC Riverside
dartmouth
UC Santa Barbara
UC Irvine
Johns Hopkins
UC Davis
U Utah
U Oregon
Duke
Michigan State
RPI
UVA
Florida State
Vanderbilt
Case Western
u Iowa
Georgia Tech</p>
<p>ChemE from US News undergrad</p>
<p>Best Colleges Specialty Rankings: Undergraduate engineering specialties: Chemical
Ranked in 2008
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA
2 University of California–Berkeley Berkeley, CA
3 University of Wisconsin–Madison Madison, WI
4 University of Minnesota–Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN
5 Stanford University Stanford, CA
6 California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA
7 University of Texas–Austin Austin, TX
8 University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Champaign, IL
9 University of Delaware Newark, DE
10 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI
11 Princeton University Princeton, NJ
12 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA
13 Purdue University–West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN
14 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA
15 Cornell University Ithaca, NY
16 Pennsylvania State University–University Park University Park, PA
17 University of California–Santa Barbara Santa Barbara, CA
18 Northwestern University Evanston, IL
19 University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA
20 Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD
North Carolina State University–Raleigh Raleigh, NC
University of Florida Gainesville, FL
University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA
24 Texas A&M University–College Station College Station, TX
Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA</p>
<p>Where does your S see his career in? If it involves graduate school in any of the sciences then prestige should be a very, very small factor. I have never heard a professor tell me that an undergraduate education in math or the sciences really makes a difference in graduate school. This is especially the case with chemistry where research is all that matters and is so easy to do as an undergrad. I’m a chem major myself going to a relatively non-prestigious school and I’ve found more than enough opportunities in the sciences for research, internships, interesting classes, and good advisors.</p>
<p>Thanks for the replies. He is not sure career wise yet. I think he’s mentioned ChemE because of the career potential, but I think he’s really leaning toward pursuing it in grad school, research, etc.</p>
<p>I’m very excited that he’s found something he’s really taken with and excels at. It’s just he has an uneven high school record, and the MIT’s are not in the cards for him. I want to find a place for him that has a decent program, will give him a good foundation, and… will accept him when he applies :-)</p>
<p>It isn’t in the northeast, but the University of Minnesota has a great ChE program.</p>
<p>I would look at in-state public schools, and if that fails look at nearby public schools. Honestly, it doesn’t really matter in the sciences. The best professor I ever had got his degree from a medium-sized liberal arts college and did postdoc work at CalTech in chemistry–it all depends on how you apply yourself while you’re there. If his record is REALLY “uneven” you should consider going to a CC for a few years and transferring from there. Despite having my 2-year degree out of HS I still have yet to take a course that I couldn’t have taken at a local CC in 3 semesters of attending a large university (save the esoteric, inapplicable, waste-of-my-time honors courses). It should save you quite a bit of money too, especially if your S has his sights set on (or isn’t likely to attend anything but) an OOS school and decides to go to one of that state’s CCs for a year or so. In the school I’m going to this fall there are many OOS students that study at a local CC for a year to gain residency and then go to the public school there for its ridiculously cheap tuition.</p>
<p>Has your son expressed interest in the Atlantic region or was that your decision?</p>
<p>We are in MA, and will definitely look at the state schools (UMass Lowell, Amherst)</p>
<p>I think his grades are good enough that he does not have to start at the CC level (and I’m not sure what he could take there anyway - he took AP Chem as a junior & is taking Calculus this year. He is forgoing AP Physics for an honors level 2nd year of Physics)</p>
<p>I was thinking in terms of Northeast/ MidAtlantic since we don’t have the funds to travel cross country much. But I think he’d be willing to look farther afield.</p>
<p>Right now the discussion is small/medium/large school, urban/suburban/ or out of the way location. And where he could realistically expect to be accepted.</p>
<p>2 colleges in Mass to look at: My college roommate at Holy Cross was a Chemistry major and got his PhD in Chem at U-Wisconsin. HC opened a new $60 million dollar science in January and has a strong premed and Chemisty rep. BC is also an excellent choice. Both colleges are need-blind and full-need for U.S. students.</p>
<p>[Need-blind</a> admission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need-blind_admission]Need-blind”>Need-blind admission - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>University at Buffalo has both BS and a five year BS/MBA and would be within driving distance.
[For</a> Prospective Students - UB Chemical and Biological Engineering](<a href=“http://www.cbe.buffalo.edu/undergrad/welcome.php]For”>http://www.cbe.buffalo.edu/undergrad/welcome.php)</p>
<p>[americanchemistry.com</a> : Shape the Future of American Chemistry: Finding the Right<br>Chemistry Program](<a href=“http://www.americanchemistry.com/S_ACC/sec_article.asp?CID=109&DID=5880]americanchemistry.com”>http://www.americanchemistry.com/S_ACC/sec_article.asp?CID=109&DID=5880) </p>
<p>American Chemistry picks </p>
<p>UC Berkeley
MIT
Caltech
Harvard
Stanford
Northwestern</p>
<p>^ Thanks for reading the thread.</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I will check out some state schools as well as the SUNY schools. I went to SUNY Stony Brook myself, I didn’t know if that would be a good fit for him - large suburban school. When I went there it was largely cliques of kids from the LI high schools.</p>
<p>I’ll check back for any other suggestions-</p>
<p>~M</p>
<p>.bump for more suggestions</p>
<p>Holy Cross is one of the nation’s top producers of chemistry graduates certified by the American Chemical Society. [Chemistry</a> | College of the Holy Cross](<a href=“http://www.holycross.edu/academics/chemistry/]Chemistry”>http://www.holycross.edu/academics/chemistry/)</p>