Colleges for Musical Theater Major - Part 31

<p>I know this has been asked before, but I am hopeless at finding things on this site, so:</p>

<p>Besides the Audition Do's and Dont's at the Cincinnati site, do other schools list monologues that they don't want to hear?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>newmtmom: NYU did not offer suggestions about monologues or songs. My daughter did take note of Cincinnati's suggestions.</p>

<p>I have just joined this site. It has taken me almost 2 weeks to read through two years of MT postings. WOW! It has been enlightening and helpful. Thank you to everyone for the valuble info. Our D is in the same boat as everyone else graduating 2005. We are in the midst of finishing applications, scheduling auditions, making hotel reservations, and continuing with regular life of school, play and vocal rehersals, voice and dance lessons, etc.<br>
In regards to songs for college auditions are there any suggested shows or songs to choose? I remember reading about a few songs not to use. What exactly are they looking for in the audition?
We have a dilemma. My D voice teacher has chosen very common songs but they show her range and are more difficult to sing. Her acting teacher wants her to choose songs that are more animated and show her acting ability. And her voice coach at school wants her to sing more obscure songs that are not as popular and have not been overused. Any input would appreciated.<br>
Thanks__JAC</p>

<p>Last night my D and I went to the NACAC Visual and Performing Arts Fair at Julliard in NYC. It was INSANELY crowded. So much so, that it was difficult to even read the signs of the schools' tables. Therefore, instead of checking out University of Hartford, Hartt School, we accidentally stopped by Hartford Conservatory which is some type of a diploma program. It's a three year program, not a college. Very, very small. Does anyone know anything about this? I'd never even heard of it before. The fair was only for two hours; I suppose that's why it was so crazy. First, we had to wait outside and around the building to get in, then we shuffled through some very tight areas/rooms. I'd like to say that it was crowded with all different types of talented young people, (meaning violinists, pianists, film students) but every time we went up to a table, the young person was interested in musical theatre!!!! My D did have a great time, though, as she met a friend of hers from the CMU Pre-College Program and it was great catching up. It also put a fire back under her, as she's been stressed since the beginning of school for various reasons. All in all, it was an interesting experience. She loved it, I thought I'd have a panick attack with all the people!</p>

<p>Okay, here goes--I've read enough now to be truly overwhelmed. I will start with just a few questions:</p>

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<li><p>What opinion does everyone have about the 3 week summer program offered in Tampa? It's near our home and we have heard good things about it. It's the one that Anne Reinking (I'm sure I spelled her name wrong) has been involved with. </p></li>
<li><p>Would our 16 year old D be out of place at SDM? She has several "on line" friends that have attended so would not be totally alone. Would three weeks at the Tampa program (if she is accepted) coupled with another three at SDM and perhaps the one-week "master class" at Camp Broadway make sense--and would it give her enough time to visit schools?</p></li>
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<p>Boy, are we going to need lots of help!!</p>

<p>Scogor...
We know of two students who have attended BTP in Tampa. Both are primarily dancers....very good dancers. It is not easy to be accepted to this program. The one criticism I have heard of this program is that too much time is spent preparing for the closing performance and not enough time is spent on training. One student who attended said he was glad he had attended, but would not go back.</p>

<p>That's all I have...little tho it is!</p>

<p>Scogor--Are you talking about Broadway Theatre Project? That is a great program, by all accounts I've heard, but they have increased their bottom age every year. Last year they took very few high school students. I understand that a lot of Point Park students are BTP people. Go to their website and check out the threads on there; you might get some good information about the program that way.</p>

<p>Is SDM Stagedoor Manor? Why would she be out of place? Have you read all Soozievt's accounts on here about Stagedoor? </p>

<p>You are in the same boat that we are--looking for programs for next summer. Is your D a junior? I even had a fantasy thought that I'd like my junior D to stay home and do a show around here and keep mom company since she'll be going off to college too soon. Oh well.</p>

<p>My D's voice teacher suggested Oberlin's vocal summer program to her. That's the one she'd really like to see her go to. I am wondering if anyone on here has done Oberlin's program or any other vocal programs as a high school student--and if there is value in that for an MT student, in lieu of an MT summer program. </p>

<p>Right now we're looking at Tisch's cap21 (bad ending date for us), CMU (probably the same bad date, going by last year's info), OCU, UMich. She can't do Northwestern's program unless she just did the acting without adding on the MT "rider"--again, because of schedule conflicts. We omited Syracuse's program. Have I missed any in this list? If a vocal program is a good way to go, are there others that would be similar to Oberlin's?</p>

<p>I can see that there are a lot of helpful people here and appreciate all the input. We'll have to look into some of the other programs mentioned.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>scogor, I'd agree with musicalthtrmom's post about BTP. My D also knows a couple of kids who have attended and who would not go back. Their assessment was similarly that it was just like a group of kids getting together and focussing on preparing a show, not on much specific training. They were also primarily dancers.</p>

<p>Everything I've heard about SDM, from kids I know, and from Soozievt on these forums, has been positive. I'd recommend sending Susan a PM for detailed info. She's away this weekend visiting her D at Brown but I'm sure she'd be more than happy to provide you with their experience with SDM. She speaks very highly of it. CMU's summer program is also very well respected. </p>

<p>One thing I'd caution you about, and I obviously do this not knowing you or your D or your situation but I just wanted to mention that planning seven weeks of a summer in programs such as these is a lot. I don't know if your D has done any summer programs before but it would seem that she hasn't since you're seeking information. If she hasn't, seven weeks is a long time to be away from home but also, if it's three different programs, that's three times the usual 'break-in' and getting adapted period. Make sure that choosing to attend a program is something that she actually wants to do, and not just something which would seem to prepare her for college admissions. I've seen posts on these forums, and others, where parents believe that these programs are a necessity to gain admission to college theatre programs, and that's just not the case. I'm not saying that's what you're thinking but just wanted to throw that in. :)</p>

<p>You mentioned you are from Tampa, Florida. You may want to check the MT program at the University of Miami. I have heard that it has a fairly good reputation. Many kids come from out of state and are housed at the University's dorms. UM's campus is beautiful and in a safe area. (My mother lives very close by and I am very familiar with the area.) However, I have no personal knowledge of the program. My daughter is only a freshmam and has not gone yet to any summer programs. </p>

<p>Here is their website: <a href="http://www.pai-miami.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.pai-miami.com&lt;/a> </p>

<p>Does anyone out there have any first hand information about the University of Miami's summer program that they are willing to share?</p>

<p>Dramatica</p>

<p>Regarding BTP - my D attended last summer as a very young 16 yr old (she turned 16 in July). She is a singer who dances. She loved BTP....it is dance heavy but that was what she anticipated and was glad to spend so much time on dance. There were plenty of vocal and acting classes as well....some private. It is a 3-week program and they work from 8am-10pm every day/night with breaks for meals, including Sat & Sun. If they had laundry to do, they had to do it after 10pm. If they wanted to swim (and there was a very nice pool at their dorm), they had to do it after 10pm. Lights out were at midnight. There were lunchtime runs to Walmart, but students had to sign up for those and my D never got to the signup sheet in time...so she would give money to someone else and ask them to buy whatever it was she needed.</p>

<p>She loved her time there and wants to audition again....met some very cool and talented people...mostly older than her...but she was inspired by that. Her only negative comment is two-fold: she would have liked to have had a little bit of down-time just to relax and visit with these new-found friends and she would have liked to have seen more of Tampa and the USF campus. She literally saw only her dorm and the path to the rehearsal spaces. The show was at the Performing Arts Center in downtown Tampa so she got to see Tampa via a bus window the last two days of camp.</p>

<p>Those are her observations.....she thought it was well worth the time invested and as a parent I thought the cost ($2,600) was very reasonable.</p>

<p>Dramatica--Thanks for the UMiami summer program tip. I too would love to hear if someone has gone to it. I can't work the link to the faculty/courses, so maybe they are updating it. </p>

<p>The info on BTP is great. My D was going to audition last year, but since she realized she couldn't actually attend, she decided not to audition. One of the draws, though, was that one of her teachers at UCLA's program teaches there, and she really liked her. For this coming summer, although she's an advanced dancer, I think she wants a program that is closer to a college MT program.</p>

<p>alwaysamom, while my D spent 8 weeks last summer at a non-theater camp in Georgia, came home for a day or two to unpack and re-pack for her week in NYC at Camp Broadway, I find myself in agreement with the concerns you raise. We are leaning toward a three-week session at Stage Door Manor and another week with the Master Class at Camp Broadway (the latter gives our family an opportunity to spend time in NYC which we all enjoy doing at least once a year). That will hopefully give us enough time to visit schools, work on her audition pieces, etc. As for the program at U of Miami, the younger D of a couple we are very friendly with here in town is in her second year there and loves it. Her mother is just as pleased with the program and highly recommends it.</p>

<p>Oops. I didn't mean to imply that our friends' D attended U of Miami's Summer program--she is a second year college student there. She spent the summer doing musical theater in Texas and from all accounts loves everything about U of Miami's program.</p>

<p>BTW, Dramatica, we actually live in Sarasota, which is an hour or so south of Tampa.</p>

<p>Quick question of another topic. Do your schools require students to dye their hair for parts. I mean if you had a Sandy who was dark blonde would your school require her to be Jessica Simpson blonde or a Rizzo to be a dark burnette with short hair if she was a dark blonde with long hair. I just wanted to know who far other schools go for characters.</p>

<p>Schools and community theatres (the ones I'm familiar with) in this area do not generally require dyeing one's hair. I have seen some audition forms that ask if you would be willing to do this, but to my knowledge, a "no" answer has never resulted in someone NOT being cast. Of course, if all things are equal talent-wise, I suspect the person with the closest "look" is probably given preference.</p>

<p>The only exception I've ever run into was when my daughter was auditioning for "Annie". Even then, she was given the option of wearing a wig or dyeing her hair. She opted for having her hair colored and permed...the funny thing was that well after the "temporary" hair color washed out, she was still a redhead. It turned out that she was at the age where her hair color was deepening anyway, and she naturally went from being blondish-brown to a true auburn!</p>

<p>This is probably a really dumb question, but since I don't know the answer . . . . If any of you or your sons/daughters cut music often, how do you go about doing it? We don't have that capability in our family, and I'm wondering if there is some good editing software that I could buy so we could do it. </p>

<p>My d's high school sometimes asks a particular student if he or she would be willing to color or cut his or her hair for a production, but generally there is no need. They do ask, though, that once cast, a student not alter his or her looks in any way.</p>

<p>I tried to look through some of the old threads for this answer, but between the new and the old sites, I'm lost....Catholic University....At the college fair this week a man told me that they offer a BFA in MT. I told him I thought they only had a BM and he told me I was wrong. I went back on their web site and can only find a BM. I know that someone goes there who used to post on this thread and wondered if they, or anyone else "in the know" could give me any info?</p>

<p>I was a medium brown-haired Sandy. They didn't ask me to change my hair, but I did cut some bangs, which made up for my hair colour being less stereotypical of Sandy.</p>