Colleges, Grades and Parents

<p>Check this out. Can you imagine?</p>

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<p>There is a thread on the overall CC Parents Forum -- Parents Cafe</p>

<p>I couldn't believe it.</p>

<p>Believe it. My spouse is a high school teacher and what you saw on this board is just a pale reflection of what is encounted on a daily basis at that level. It doesn't surprise me that the same parents who can't bear for their "almost adult" children to get less than an "A" can't shut it off after the kid graduates high school.</p>

<p>USNA heads this off early -- in the packet that plebes-to-be receive there is a form that requires the appointee's signature if he/she want their grades to even be sent to their parents.</p>

<p>That made me yack! These poor poor teachers. Oiixxg, I'll bet there has been atleast one time that you would have liked to have been in your wife's shoes when this happened. I just can't imagine. Once my older kid took a course in, get this, German film studies. He flunked it. I didn't contact the prof., I made my kid fess up that he'd not gone to any of the classes therefore leaving him with paying me back the 400 bucks for the course. Duh. Make 'em accountable or they never will be! The stories on that thread were insane!</p>

<p>At USCGA the cadet gets the grades...period. It's part of growing up and accepting personal responsibility.</p>

<p>The amazing thing is that the kids are no where near as wound up as the parents -- they really don't mind a fair grade for the work they did and would probably be relieved to be able to say "well, that subject really isn't my strong suit, but that's ok." It scares me because the message the kids are getting is that if you aren't perfect in EVERY area you are a failure -- which really diminishes the uniqueness of the individual, and ultimately means they don't feel good about any special aspect of their lives. Unfortunately, when they grow up with this all around them, they don't know at 16 or 17 that its WEIRD for parents to act like this.</p>

<p>Post this stuff over on the Parents Forum. They need to hear this over there</p>

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<p>My teacher co-workers and I joke that our ideal job would be to teach at an orphanage...all the kids and no parents!</p>

<p>Even now as a hs senior, my son won't allow me to contact his teachers or look at his online grade report. He's on his own in this respect.I have faith in him even though I'm dying to know everything. Fortunately, I still look daily at my 15 year old reports...he needs it! I'd rather not look at it though....</p>

<p>Like everything else, there needs to be a reasonable balance. Kids standing on their own. Parents letting go. Teachers who are communicative and proactive. Lose the balance with any one of these and you have trouble. But keep in mind, I am of the Clinton philosophy that "it takes a village"....I certainly have seen this in action with this whole journey leading to USNA!</p>

<p>Uh oh...hope the right-wing doesn't jump on you for quoting Hillary...ha ha...folks we're from the East Coast...blue states so don't hate on us!</p>

<p>My parents have never look at my report card. It's my business, not theirs.</p>

<p>Thanks boss- thought I might take some heat for that one- but considering she gave our son a nom, she can't be all that bad! And she is a fellow NY'er now! Even roots for the Yankees from what I hear! ;)</p>

<p>Gotta root for the Yankee's. Steinbrenner let's all Kings Pointers into games for free if they are wearing their uniforms.</p>

<p>Wow that's a good thing for the "other" Boss to do.</p>

<p>My son was told that the president is due to speak at his graduation in 2009 due to the rotation among the academies. I told him Pres. Clinton(H) would be there to address him.</p>

<p>Bossf51--</p>

<p>No offense, but that just made my stomach turn.</p>

<p>...and I'm not referring to our current President.</p>

<p>I think a good balance for seeing kids grades might be who is paying for the education. I think in High School the parents have every right to see the grades. Beyond high school I think it might be good to look at who is paying for the education. For who is paying I'm talking solely on tuition. If the parents are paying the tuition [and not paying their tuition by paying their taxes (USMMA, USNA, USCGA, USAFA, USMA)] then they have a right to see what their child is getting in their classes. That way if the child is doing poorly they can make the decision on whether to continue to pay or not. If the child is on scholarship or paying their own way then the grades are theirs. Just an idea. </p>

<p>I guess another option would be to simply send out a pass/fail report card to the parents. You would know either they passed or failed, the student would get the full report card.</p>

<p>Bossf51--</p>

<p>No offense, but that just made my stomach turn</p>

<p>Maybe Governor Warner will be there..lol</p>

<p>"Its my business not theirs" ?</p>

<p>THAT makes my stomach turn . . .</p>

<p>My son was told that the president is due to speak at his graduation in 2009 due to the rotation among the academies. </p>

<p>Actually, there isn't a set rotation. Where the President and Vice President speak is set by the White House usually about 3 months out and is often based on policy objectives and current events. That having been said, the White House usually tries and spread it out. </p>

<p>Moreover, since we will have a new POTUS in 2009. All bet's are off.</p>