Colleges you/child crossed off the list after visiting

<p>UNC-Wilmington
DD loved the school from the web site and started the application before seeing the school, she was that excited about the school! We drove 6 hours to see the school. I thought the campus was beautiful, the tour guide was very good, and the programs seemed great.</p>

<p>When we got done, my DD said, “My God, what was I thinking? I would never go to this school.” What??? She said none of the girls dressed like her and she would never fit in.(She’s a leather, goth, dark make-up kinda gal) Oh well.</p>

<p>Does anyone out there now have a HS senior with senioritis? 1st choice school early acceptance has now taken wind out of my son’s sails. He wants to go to college now. :slight_smile: I am so happy for him, but he still has 6 months and 5 AP classes to get through before heading off to college. Any advice??</p>

<p>This one stood out from college visits when S was about to be a junior in HS (he’s now a second year med student):</p>

<p>Note: We had the misfortune of doing our NE tour during a heat wave where the daily temperatures in the NE were higher than they were at home in Dallas…go figure…</p>

<p>Penn: Tour guide was a very fast talking female who seemed wholly disinterested in the group. She walked ten paces ahead of everyone with her back to the rather large group, it was clearly a job for her. She never waited for the group to gather before talking and never waited for questions before turning and heading to her next destination. It was very warm and she was in what appeared to an expensive blouse and skirt with her (real) Chanel sunglasses. The other tour guides we saw were dressed more appropriately for the weather and seemed more engaged with their groups. We were not alone in our assessment of the tour guide btw.</p>

<p>When we got back for the info session the woman running the meeting repeatedly commented about how terribly competitive admissions were and actually said “if you think you are good enough, apply.” When she said that S wanted to leave there immediately.</p>

<p>As we were getting in the car on the way to Princeton S said something like “gee if they were that haughty and pretentious at Penn I can’t even imagine what Princeton will be like…”</p>

<p>Note: Our tour guide at Princeton was an African-American female who was amazing…very funny, told all the stories and anecdotes about campus landmarks, poked fun at Yale whenever she could etc…talk about a different experience. It was among the best tours along with Yale and Amherst.</p>

<p>We didn’t have a bad tour guide or experience the rest of the way taking in Yale, Brown, Amherst, Williams and Dartmouth over the next week. We actually started the tour at Swarthmore before the Penn visit. The extreme heat actually made it interesting to see how the guides and schools dealt with it since being 98-99 degrees in mid June isn’t the norm for that part of the country. There was plenty of stopping under trees and in buildings during the tours and in fact at Dartmouth we learned that the room the info session was in was the ONLY room with A/C in the whole building. The person giving the session said we were welcome to make the session as long as we liked since she was enjoying the respite. :)</p>

<p>S dropped Penn for reasons stated above and Williams only because of its remoteness. On a side note, we got to Williams a bit early and discovered that the info session was actually being run by the admissions director. When he asked where we were from and then asked what school he proceeded to ask S if he knew several students who were recent grads of his school and now students at Williams. THAT was pretty impressive.</p>

<p>Yale, Brown, Amherst and Dartmouth remained on his list after the trip.</p>

<p>Haverford – hated it. Maybe it just couldn’t stand up to the Swarthmore visit, which we did that morning, but the tour guide seemed, for lack of a better word, ditzy, and utterly unconcerned with academics. Perhaps unfair to judge a school by one student (although we jumped ship and joined a tour led by a separate guide, to whom we had a similar reaction), but the school is so small that disliking ANY students could severely curtail potential peer group.
Amherst – didn’t care one way or the other. Campus buildings were gorgeous and class was interesting, but I didn’t have anything in common with the students I met and the campus itself felt wrong somehow – I don’t know how to explain, but it felt like the whole thing was just going to slide off the hill and disappear. Maybe it was just too insubstantial. Fell off the list, primarily out of apathy.
Williams – again, an apathetic reaction, possibly because it was just too cold. Campus felt run-down compared to Amherst, tour guide intelligent but reminded me too much of students from high school. Made me realize that I really don’t want a super-rural school.
Smith – it was hard to judge, because campus was basically empty the day we visited, but I didn’t connect with the tour guide and the campus wasn’t what I expected. A friend later said that she found a well-rated class she attended uninterested and uninteresting – the final nail in the coffin.
St. Olaf – I liked it, and it very nearly stayed on the list. The campus was nice, the admissions office extremely welcoming, the classes I attended interesting, the music program incredible, but I didn’t really connect with any of the students. Chapel was especially concerning. I’m Christian, so I didn’t think I’d have a problem with the religious side of the school, but the sermon (given by a student) discussed why The Golden Compass was evil. Ultimately, I decided that if I was in Northfield and had to deal with that cold, I’d rather be at Carleton.
Reed – I never did an official visit, but I’ve been there several times for school things and it didn’t feel right. The campus is rather run-down and students seemed unhappy. The professors I saw were amazing, but I didn’t think I’d be happy there.</p>

<p>Whew! That was longer than I expected. Swarthmore, Wesleyan, Yale, Brown, and Carleton all stayed on the list after visits. Anyways – if you made it through, hope this was enlightening!</p>

<p>Great post ED Dad</p>

<p>Interesting to hear about how an AdCom officer recalls kids and their hs alma mater…!!</p>

<p>We found that certain tour guides really do color ones impressions…
Try not to let that be the case
yet I suppose its no different than a student eliminating a school
for the clothing kids wear or because there are athletes…</p>

<p>I keep trying to remind our student tolook at the bigger picture but it seems they do “get a feel” for thinsg…so glad to let him go with his gut when he senses something amiss for him…</p>

<p>My daughter attended an outstanding scholars weekend at University of Florida.
Here are her words</p>

<p>The program started off very informative. Even though I already knew most of what was presented, I understand that it was probably very helpful to those who knew nothing about UF. As soon as we went to the “student panel,” it all went downhill. This is the impression I got: when the parents were there, it was more professional. But when it was just us students, it was “party time.” Many of the so-called “scholars” who attended the program were very loud and disrespectful to the speakers. I couldn’t hear half of what was said. A few times, the UF students tried to get them quiet, but it didn’t seem as if they were being too assertive. When the panel was over, it was announced that there would be a party. My heart sank. Not all rising seniors like partying. Plus, I didn’t travel five hours to party; I traveled so I could learn about the school. </p>

<p>Dinner was next, and the lines were so disorganized I found it impossible to get any decent food. It seemed like the only way you could get food was to push through people. As a result, I ate a measly bowl of cereal for dinner. Later, the party started. It consisted of extremely loud rap music (of course -_-) and an unbearably hot room. I left the party to hang out in the game room, where they had told us we could go if we didn’t want to party. However, I was soon told that I had to go back downstairs. In a nutshell, I spent the rest of the night alone in my dorm. The next morning, one of the student helpers was very rude to my roommate as we returned to Broward Hall’s lobby. She asked if we were supposed to turn in our keys, and he replied sarcastically, “That’s what checking out is.” After we checked out, we learned much more information, and it was a breath of fresh air after the events of night before. I enjoyed the college fair as well.</p>

<p>The “Amazing Race” is what ruined the second day for me. For those of you who don’t know what that is: we were given a sheet with a list of five checkpoints as well as a few bonus checkpoints. Each one was a clue about where on campus the checkpoint was located. Whoever visited all checkpoints and returned with slips from each one won the game. First of all, we didn’t get to meet with all our teammates beforehand. The had told us that we would have to do that ourselves, but how could we identify and gather our teammates when there were so many people? Anyway, my team almost won, but we ended up failing at the end because my team didn’t know we weren’t supposed to go to the bonus checkpoints. When we realized this, we were already very far from where we were supposed to return. We finally arrived back a while later, and by then none of the other students were outside. One of the helpers was outside, and she informed us that the others had gone inside to have ice cream and were now waiting on the parents to come out. I was crushed; no one had even worried about us or cared whether something had happened to us. In addition, the ice cream was gone. </p>

<p>At the end, the speaker told us we would each receive a T-shirt as a prize. There were separate tables for each size T-shirt they had. This was, as well as the program as whole, very chaotic. To get a T-shirt you had to be rude and push in front of people. Why would I want to go to a school were I have to fight for things as simple as dinner and a T-shirt? After I waited for a long time to get a medium T-shirt, they ran out before I got the chance to get one. Even though I was there before many others, they gave T-shirts to the most aggressive people and not the people who politely waited. The same happened when I moved on to the large T-shirts, and finally I barely managed to get an extra large.</p>

<p>As a whole, it seemed as if the people who ran the program didn’t care about us students as individuals. Many of the helpers were unfriendly, unhelpful, and kept trying to win us over with all the “school spirit” talk. Any idiot knows that UF has a lot of school spirit. I don’t want to waste time and money only to have that shoved down my throat over and over again. When I attended War Eagle Day at Auburn, the staff and students seemed to genuinely be happy we were there and they seemed like they were putting a lot of effort into their program. At Auburn, I felt welcomed and respected.</p>

<p>Navarre1’s response reminded me to mention</p>

<p>Our student went to GA Tech this yr…invited to tour and spend a weekend…to check out his sport and the engineering dept…</p>

<p>The weather was bad-- flooding–Atl–and he had emailed asking about the schedule since things like Six Flags were closed to flooding…</p>

<p>He was told “the weekend would be flexible but fine…etc”</p>

<p>He flew to Atl…
He arrived in Atl and the driver met our student and other students–driving them to the campus–Dropping them off in the wrong place…</p>

<p>The kids found the info session–which was just “ok”…
They did not get a chance to meet the coach etc (which was supposed to happen etc) …</p>

<p>After a “tour”…they played frisbee–then went to dinner.
That evening–they went to a volleyball game and then to the dorms…</p>

<p>Our student is not a “party-er” and he was disappointed that the “host” and the roommates had a blow-out party–offering the 16 yr olds beer, rum and vodka…the college students were getting smashed.
Our student played video games on the system in the suite…but when things were out of control–he texted a friend (girl) at a neighboring dorm (also at the recruit weekend)…he joined those others at the neighboring dorm because they were hanging out and not drinking…</p>

<p>Around 2am…he had to walk back alone to the “host” dorm–and wait for someone to open the doors (electronic key)
As a hs student he didn;'t know the dorm would be locked etc…
In the dorm, he had to pound on the door to wake up the passed out kids…
2:30am he takes a shower and is in bed by 3ish—</p>

<p>He’s up by 8:30a—for the “brunch”…before the football game…
After the game he had private plans with friends of our family in Atl…who put his on a flight home</p>

<p>Never really “met” the coach nor learned about the team and sport/program etc
Tour wasn’t good
Host was BAD…</p>

<p>Could have been worse–
His friend (girl)'s experience the same weekend–her “hostess” had her boyfriend spend the night…!</p>

<p>So Ga Tech went to the “saftey-safety” part of “the list”</p>

<p>Wow fogfog - talk about a bad impression. I wonder how many others have had to deal with drunk or BF/GF sleepover hosts</p>

<p>drunk sleepover hosts seem to be a running theme…I actually remember an earlier (like two years ago) CC thread about this…</p>

<p>I’m so in favor of overnights for kids, but can’t seem to get past this hurdle…</p>

<p>My first daughter did no overnights (refused), but we are in the thick of this with my younger one and while she is gung ho, her father and I are treading carefully…</p>

<p>eadad- Interestingly, we had the flipside of your Penn/Princeton experience when we were visiting (pre-recruiting) with WildChild. I was not optimistic about Penn (I am from the area and all my family members went to Penn and I went to summer school there) and it was the coldest, rainiest day…We had trouble parking and were late for the info session. The woman was so gracious and escorted us to the auditorium (I was shocked). Our tour guide was excellent and everyone we met was friendly and helpful. We visited Princeton next on a cold, gloomy (but dry) day. We were about 45 seconds late for the info session (they started early, by my watch) and got yelled at. I was scolded for even THINKING about bringing my hot coffee drink into the “historic building” where the info session was held. It was spring break so standing room only. The presenter was an idiot (clearly way down the totem pole in that admissions dept). I knew more about the new SAT and the changes than she did (thanks, CC). Our tour guide was nice but a dingbat. She had switched majors 5 times and was very giggly. That said, you can’t NOT be impressed with the place and the coach/athletic facilities were amazing.<br>
It’s funny how just a couple people one might encounter on campus can affect your impression!</p>

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<p>Idiots and giggly dingbats. A bit judgmental, aren’t we?</p>

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<p>I think so. Which is REALLY, REALLY BAD, because even though he has a few college acceptances in-hand, he does not have any scholarship offers yet, and once they see his transcript from this semester, they may not be very impressed. Senioritis is best saved for the Spring! :(</p>

<p>I call it like I see it, ncram65. That’s what a message forum is all about.</p>

<p>My deep commitment to serious CC lurking has given me yet another justification for my addiction - ‘idiots and giggly dingbats’ is my new favorite expression - thank you mowc!</p>

<p>THis wasn’t ever really on the list but we had a rep from Florida State come to talk to the parents and my husband wrote me a note saying, “Can we please get out of here?” She was not the least bit articulate, and just ranted on about “rah! rah! Big schools are the BEST!! Everything you could want is at FSU!! YEA!” I couldn’t believe she was actually being paid and had a graduate degree (from there) to boot!</p>

<p>We certainly encountered our share of idiots and giggly dingbats during the process…I don’t know what’s to object about. Any sufficiently large population is going to possess them though some environments will be less conducive to sustaining them. D’s eventual college of choice included a couple of people who were quirky in the extreme but I think everyone decided that was a good thing in that boundaries were pretty flexible.</p>

<p>I think name calling is immature. But as mowc points out, it is an anonymous message board and people can write what they like.</p>

<p>navarre1’s post about UF’s scholar weekend just adds to my daughter’s apprehension about UF. My husband and I are alumni, but we weren’t happy with the school’s admission’s introductions when either one of our children toured UF. My daughter received an invitation to the honor’s weekend, but the timing was bad for us. After reading navarre1’s post I am really glad we didn’t attend. We also attended a War Eagle weekend in April and both my daughter and I were impressed. She also left feeling as if she was thoroughly welcomed and a part of a family. We also went to a special program at UCF and it was very professional and very friendly. We were also impressed. Schools need to understand that first impressions are important and top students aren’t always so easily lured by reputation. </p>

<p>Thank you navarre1 for sharing your daughter’s experience with us.</p>

<p>ncram- Get over yourself. I was being descriptive. It’s not quite the same as name-calling. I would hate to see how long you would last on some of my athletic forums. We routinely call each other “idiots”- and much worse! HTFU.</p>

<p>LOL - I would use “giggly dingbat” to describe the tour guide at our Tulane tour. It was a good thing I have been impressed by the successes of other Tulane-goers.</p>