<p>I’m about to apply today or this week. I’m out of state as well, from Michigan. I created a comparison thread between the University of Colorado and CSM on the University of Colorado forum so check it out…there’s some information there. As for me, it depends on, like you, if they give me any financial aid. </p>
<p>@noleguy33, what types of merit aid are there? how do you like campus life…specifically, the girls?</p>
<p>I would love to see a site for CSM. Maybe you can talk the moderators into it. It deserves to be there.</p>
<p>CSM has a solid reputation as an undergrad engineering school. Many who don’t know engineering don’t realize that it is an engineering school and not a mining or technical school.</p>
<p>I know many kids who go there and love it. Great location too.</p>
<p>I applied to Mines, and it is probably in second place right now. Their reputation for geoscience and all related areas of engineering is outstanding. However, it’s definitely quite expensive OOS. Did you apply to cheaper options as well?</p>
<p>Maybe I’ll see you at one of the Discover Mines days.</p>
<p>I applied today but I don’t think it’s THAT expensive. It’s cheaper than the University of Colorado…and it’s in the same ballpark as the OOS costs at my IS schools like Michigan State and Michigan Tech.</p>
<p>I was admitted to Michigan Tech (MTU) which is very much like CSM but maybe not as prestigious. You might one to check it out as an OOS option at 36k/year. In fact, MTU was once called Michigan Mining School. It’s definitely a lot more remote though.</p>
<p>@noimagination: I realize that 35k+ is a lot of money. I just don’t think it’s something to complain about when my IS schools are charging just about the same amount, if not more. Unless you want to go to a lesser known school, most state universities are right around that 35k range for OOS. </p>
<p>In Michigan (top 3 publics as rated by USNEWS):
UMICH - $48,331
MSU - $37,442
MTU - $36,629</p>
<p>As you can see, the $39,551 cost of attendance at CSM is not that much more than the OOS costs, in Michigan. In fact, I would say that CSM is a better value than MSU for only 2k more if I wasn’t IS.</p>
PhysicsRule - or you - would pay OOS rates at Mines. Period. It’s not an issue of complaining; it’s an issue of trying to make a smart decision. If you pay in-state rates at MTU, it doesn’t matter how much that school costs OOS. It doesn’t affect your ROI.</p>
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<li><p>Some other state schools offer very significant merit aid. Mines doesn’t. As far as I know, $12k is the max.</p></li>
<li><p>I’m not saying that no one should consider Mines from OOS. I am seriously doing so myself. Mines is one of the few schools I can think of that might actually be worth such high rates. However, that doesn’t change the fact that the costs are significant. Big debt is a big problem, and big savings can be useful.</p></li>
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<li><p>Yeah, that’s obvious but I am most familiar with my IS schools - I know their caliber and what type of students they attract and admit. So it’s a good starting point in deciding if a college is overcharging or not. In my case, I don’t think CSM is gouging any more than MSU or MTU. As a result, I’m totally fine with their OOS tuition fee…it seems fair to me.</p></li>
<li><p>Good point.</p></li>
<li><p>Understood.</p></li>
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<p>In summary: financial aid may or may not be what you expect, but when you graduate, you can make very good money. Academics show very demanding school, as a result high prestige and very decent entry level salaries.</p>
<p>From the Colorado School of Mines I got financial aid award only loans $9,500 with 3.79 GPA from other university as part-time transfer engineering student. My family income last year was $92k. I do not know the income took me away from any grant since I am in-state in Colorado.
Did you get financial aid award from them?</p>
<p>They’re inflating their numbers. Other schools do not consider students going to graduate school or the military as being “placed” but rather takes them off the list. So for ChemE, CSM is reporting 78% placed (36/46 not looking for work). Other schools would calculate that as: 46 students - 15 grad school - 1 military = 30 students. 17 placed of 30 = 57% placement rate.</p>
<p>Keep that in mind when comparing to other schools.</p>
<p>Don’t expect to get a forum for it, this site has immense east coast and California bias no one cares about Mines. I applied and was accepted about same time as you, I did very well in high school and got $0 merit aid and $0 need based aid so needless tomsay I decided not to go there.</p>
<p>You have to look at how that was calculated. The ROI included the average 30-year salary from Payscale.com So any school that graduates a large number of (on average) high paying majors (engineering, business, etc) will have a higher ROI than a school that graduates a large number of low paying majors (education, art history, etc).</p>
<p>However, that doesn’t affect you if you’re the same major at both schools. For example, an engineer at CSM probably makes about the same as an engineer from CU-Boulder, however Boulder has a lower ROI in that calculation because there are many more Arts and Science majors bringing down the average salary.</p>
<p>A classmate of mine was accepted to Mines with an SAT 2230 (800 Math, 680 Critical Reading, 750 Writing) and Subject tests Math II 800, Physics 800, World History 750 who attends a competitive out of state high school that doesn’t rank, but has a 90 average. He didn’t get any merit aid from Mines. He was accepted to 10 other schools with merit aid/presidential scholarships at each. His opinion of Mines is pretty low right now.</p>