Columbia, Dartmouth, Upenn, and MIT

<p>My daughter got in Columbia, Dartmouth, Upenn, and MIT.</p>

<p>I'm not sure which college would be best for getting into Medical School.</p>

<p>Please guide me if you have any knowledge about this.</p>

<p>Congratulations to your daughter.</p>

<p>Please be aware that there are only 130 MD granting medical schools in the United States. Getting into medical school is extremely competitive and it is not a guarantee for any student unless they do well at the undergraduate level.</p>

<p>2) The schools mentioned, not a single one is ‘better’ at getting students into medical schools. All have solid science departments and with a fair number of pre-med students (though I imagine MIT is the least premeddie, but that is a guess). All have premedical committees that support students in being admitted to medical schools, and as far as percentage of students being accepted, they all do exquisitely. </p>

<p>Do not worry. I suggest you think about other issues in mind beyond medical school because it really is not that big if a difference amongst her choices.</p>

<p>Like admissionsgeek said, all are solid choices for med school preparation. I suggest having your daughter get in touch with premed students from each school (preferably seniors who can comment on the full run) and talk with them about their experiences. I know Columbia has an interactive map on the admissions website that gives contact information for 100+ students, listing their hometowns and majors. This is a great resource! I’m sure the other schools have similar initiatives. Like admissionsgeek said, though, make sure your daughter considers all aspects of the school, because four years is a long time when you’re 18 years old, and since they are all great choices, the most important thing is that she enjoys her time at the school and gets a great education out of it.</p>

<p>When I visited UPenn, the one thing they boasted to all of the prospies (it was a general presentation, not a med. one) before a tour was the opportunity for med students. They explained how they use technology (like the life-like robots that get symptoms that the students have to then diagnose…), and how they get their students out practicing in the many Philly hospitals sooo early compared to other schools for their education as well as internships that they are well prepared for med school and med schools know it. Aparently they focus much more on actual hands on learning than a lot of typical pre-med tracks…I dont know much about that, though. Something you might want to look into…that presentation was a year ago so I don’t remember the specifics, but I was very impressed-and I’m a journalism major!</p>

<p>Thanks admissionsgeek and kam2151!</p>

<p>I saw on the MIT website that the acceptance rate for MIT to med schools was 77%, and I heard that it is difficult to maintain a good GPA there. </p>

<p>MIT is great for research, especially in biology. I wondering what the acceptance rate for medical schools for Columbia is.</p>

<p>^MIT is probably better at engineering and physics research than bio. Columbia matches MIT as a research university. I think the acceptance rate for Columbia grads to med school is over 90%, 77% seems lowish.</p>

<p>Actually, MIT’s biology programs are among the best in the nation in nearly all facets. Columbia has better neuroscience, but that’s about it. Check the last NRC rankings.</p>

<p>Anyway, to make matters short: Yes, MIT’s success rate is 77%, which is 30% above the national average. Given the amount of grade-deflation there, and the fact that most students are geared towards engineering, physics and math, especially the most successful ones, whereas at traditional schools the best students are geared towards medical school, this number is especially impressive.</p>

<p>Penn traditionally has around an 83% success rate, which is also very impressive.</p>

<p>To get an idea of how truly high these numbers are, keep in mind that Duke and Harvard usually have the highest rates, I believe; these are generally between 85% and 89%. Schools rarely reach into the 90% range. Stanford’s, for example, is 76%.</p>

<p>Columbia’s website doesn’t specify, but it says it’s also a high number - I HIGHLY doubt it is above 90%. If this is the case, however, it would certainly be a good idea to think about it for your daughter.</p>

<p>The bottom line, of course, is that individual applicants get into medical schools, not monolithic masses of students. It’s not the school’s reputation that gets these students admitted, but rather the caliber of the students themselves; and THIS is what informs the reputation in the first place. If your daughter decided to go to the University of Kansas, she would still stand a fantastic chance of getting into medical school despite that college’s rather low success rate compared to these other schools (presuming, of course, that her ability to get accepted to Penn/Columbia/MIT is indicative of her future performance - I think it’s safe to say it is).</p>

<p>i’m pretty sure columbia is ~92%. was premed very early on. i believe yale also boasts >90% acceptance.</p>

<p>also, don’t argue that MIT’s rate is impressive because people are studying quantitative fields etc. the vast majority of premeds anywhere study bio/chem or something very similar, basically joke majors which are heavy on memorization and light on math. nobody goes as a physics major, because that would be ridiculous for such a gpa focused process - most people simply aren’t smart enough to do it. physics and math majors are the uncommon exceptions to the premed population, even at mit.</p>

<p>anyways, i’m not sure any school will have a significant advantage. a top student at either school shouldn’t expect to have any problems.</p>