Commisserate here: Rejections...HS Class of 2008

<p>We also kept a chart of every aspect of this process for all schools. Dates when things were sent were noted. Every call was noted. Dates of when we checked to confirm that the file was complete was noted. Dates we made the appointments were noted and so on and so forth. It is a lot to keep track of. Also, when things come into question with a school, you can have documentation of every thing that was sent and when, all confirmations that were given, and who was spoken with and all that.</p>

<p>Remember, some schools notify you if something is missing but some schools do not. Some schools have an online personalized page to check to see what is received and what is missing. If they provide that, check it periodically and not late in the process. For schools that have no online status of each piece, call after about two to three weeks of everything being sent to make sure the file status is considered complete, particularly as there are LOTS of times things mess up and are missing, as well as the pure fact that many pieces are sent from different places such as the College Board, the high school, the recommenders and the student herself.</p>

<p>Wow! You guys impress me with your spreadsheets! I would have loved to have spreadsheets throughout this process, but I never did learn to use Excel. So, instead, my D and I just made a separate filing folder for each school. On the front, she stapled the receipt from the online application, which noted the date, date paid, etc. Inside we stuck all correspondence from the schools. In addition, she made sure to make use of those online trackers that some schools have to check her documents, and if any were missing, I was charged with calling the school during business hours to follow up. I admit that a spreadsheet might have been better, but this system worked for us all right.</p>

<p>SoozieVT you are a warm light in an otherwise cold process. You always seem to respond to everyone in their darkest moments. It must be a large burden for you to keep up with all these depressed parents and kids. You are calming; like a therapist, bringing all our emotional cries back to reality. </p>

<p>You are right that I felt much better that Ithaca disclosed that she was not successful with the audition process. If they hadn't, I would have been very upset.</p>

<p>I think my daughter with 4 of nine schools rejecting her has decided that this is not for her and asked me to cancel her last audition at UARTs at the end of March. So we will eat the cost of that application and flight. Her last glimmer of hope is her number one choice of Emerson. She also has Boco, NYU, Pace, and Hartt to hear from. I'm not even calling at this point to see if they have all her application materials because I don't want to know and will just wait for the letters now.</p>

<p>I started a spreadsheet, but my D wanted to track everything herself. She created a file folder for each school and kept all the correspondence from each school in it. On the front, she had sections for the audition requirements (color coded), the application deadline date, her audition date, anyone's card she received was taped on, and there are several taped small notes that have other information on them as well. Now the sites where she can view application and admission status have been written on, with her login and password.</p>

<p>Each folder had the information in the same place so it was easy to quickly look at them to find what she was looking for.</p>

<p>All in all, she only missed one deadline date, so I think she did pretty well. All I had to do was figure out a way to get to all the auditions!</p>

<p>Its a LOT of information to keep track of.</p>

<p>Karenteic, I know your last post was directed to SoozieVT, but I just wanted to chime in and say how sorry I am that your daughter has not had a good experience so far. This is such a draining, emotional and just plain hard process for everyone! She really has to decide if acting is her passion...if it is, then she should wait for the final results from all of her schools and go to that audition at UARTs because it might be the one right place for her. On the other hand, if she realizes she doesn't like the rejection part of the business then good for her to recognize that it is not for her and move on to something different. Just don't let the "heat of the moment" taint her view. When you are depressed from the no's that seem to keep coming...it might not be the best time to make final decisions about your entire future. Does that make sense? I just want you to know we all empathize with you and I just really hope some good news letters are on their way!</p>

<p>Ditto Beachmom. Try not to change course too quickly. Lots of students and parents REALLY love UARTS and you have many more places to hear from--some of which may be acceptances and change the way you look at things!</p>

<p>Momster of M can I hire you? </p>

<p>My 6 year old just informed me that she is very excited that at Kindergarten family night tonight that she is going to be dancing as a Japanese fire fly with her own glow stick. Her first performance. I just want to grab her and take her far away from family night. It starts again.</p>

<p>karenteic, it's clear your sense of humor is still intact. Go tonight and enjoy every moment of that little firefly's performance! It's clear your kids are very creative, which is something to celebrate.</p>

<p>I wrote this post and when I went to post it, CC went down and so it is a bit out of sequence now. I think you (Karenteic) got fantastic responses and I agree with all that was said by the other members. Here is what I had written before CC went down (actually this is my third try as CC went down each time I tried this!):</p>

<p>NMR....let me clarify that I am not tech savvy and actually have never created a spreadsheet myself. I forget what we did for the oldest child but it likely was what was created for the younger one which was a chart that must have been made on Word. Now, many of my clients create the chart as a spreadsheet on Excel and that is even better. I give them a list of everything to put down the left side of the chart and then put the schools across the top. However, like you, I also have had my kids (and students) have a file folder for each school where everything is kept and copies of everything that was sent is also kept. Still, having a master chart of all dates and record keeping for all schools at one glance works well too in addition to the individual folders. I guess I am into the total organizational aspect! LOL </p>

<p>Karen...I am truly sorry you went through this. To tell ya the truth, lots of my students have had things happen such as a school never receiving the appliction or transcript, even though it was sent. It can be so frustrating! But massive paperwork is involved from thousands of students and I guess it is bound to happen. Of course, if it happens to yourself, it is very disappointing. Not everything can be avoided but I do think checking up with every school after things are sent is a good thing to do because nobody cares about your process as much as yourself. I am mentioning that here only because so many will read these posts and so might as well have newcomers learn from these experiences. As frustrating as your situation is, it is fairly common. Again, thankfully the fact that the application was missing at admissions did not impact your D's BFA decision as that would have been far worse. </p>

<p>I know nothing about your D. But I do know about the BFA in MT process and even for those with outstanding talent and qualifications, there will be some rejections in this process. Usually, if a student is in the ballpark talent wise and academic wise AND has a well balanced and appropriate list, they will get in SOME where. If someone has no acceptances at all, either their list was not well balanced or appropriate for them or they may not yet have acquired the skills necessary for these highly selective programs. The RIGHT list is crucial. </p>

<p>But anyway, all that said, the fact that your D has started with four denials, may NOT be indicative of her final results and all that matters is the final results. My own kid started with a deferral and a denial and it was all positive after that. I have a student who started with a few denials and is now accepted to Tisch and waiting for some others. Had these kids taken the initial denials to equate with not being successful in the admissions process, it would have been an inaccurate assessment because in the end, they were successful in it. So, rejections go with the territory of the BFA admissions process. It is a lot nicer to START with an acceptance but if you start with some rejections, it need not imply you won't get into other programs. It is not a contest as far as how many you get into. You can only attend one. I know someone who got in early in the season into a very well regarded program talked about here a lot and has gotten several denials since then. But she has a great program to attend and that is all that matters. Having a choice is always nice, but if you apply to only schools you like for one reason or another, you can't lose. Getting into a favorite is ideal but is not that common. What is also important is to have BA back ups. These can be really GREAT schools. </p>

<p>While everyone is in the thick of admissions ANGST, I can tell you it does subside once the process is over. You can only attend one school and most do get into one school (even if not a BFA school) and usually end up quite happy in college and this admissions angst is long gone. Truly. I don't know your child and if she is competitive for this process but I wouldn't rush to judge her final outcome based on just four results so far. I do hope she has a BA on the list that she likes and that is an academic safety as well. If things do not work out favorably, all is not lost. It will be disappointing but not the end all and be all. She'll regroup. This is but one step on a journey. Things work out in one way or another...maybe not as initially planned but they do work out. I will be hopeful for your daughter as well as all who wait. I am a mom and I know how we all just want our kids to be happy. This process is overwhelming as we can't control how it will turn out for our kids. But we're there for them and will help them through whatever comes their way and work things out with them. It's going to be all right.</p>

<p>PS...enjoy that K performance! Those moments are precious and who knows what your little one will want to do when she is older.</p>

<p>Does it mean you have not been accepted to Tisch if you haven't recieved an invitation of some sort at this point?</p>

<p>NO, it does not. Apparently, only a small percentage of the kids that Tisch will accept got that invitation thingie. Stay tuned ...</p>

<p>Rejected from Shenandoah :( Unless Webster pulls through, I might be joining the MT class of 2013</p>

<p>Well, I know that is true for the Sat. in the Sq. invitations, but it seems that people are getting local invitations now too...</p>

<p>I'm sorry about Shenandoah... don't worry, things will work out in the end. They always do.</p>

<p>Robert...I am sorry about the denials you have been receiving. It is very disappointing for you and it is hard. I have to say that you have had one of the best attitudes that I have seen and your attitude will take you through thick and thin. I do hope Webster pulls through but it may not. Did you have any BA schools on your list (so important......all you juniors.....observe please!)? If not, as disappointing an outcome that this may be, life involves setbacks and you can weather them and regroup. You are not at that point yet but it could happen. If it does, come here and we can all help you brainstorm the many alternatives that exist. You can take a bend in the road in your journey and it will be OK, even if not as you had hoped or thought. Ya never know in life and it is how you make lemonade from lemons that counts. I won't get into the various options you might have until it is necessary, if at all. In the meantime, I do not know if you have had your Webster audition yet, but see if you need to make any changes by working with your coaches and then just go give 'em what you've got at Webster and go from there.</p>

<p>Thanks for your kind words sooz. I have already auditioned for Webster, did that at NYC Unifieds. I also do not have any BA backups because I didn't even fathom that I wouldn't get into any schools.</p>

<p>I do have some ideas of what I might do next year if I don't get into Webster. I might do one of the following:</p>

<p>Work almost full-time and go super hardcore on dance classes, vocal lessons as well as vocal coaching, monologue coaching, acting classes, etc... Unfortunately, being from Williamsburg VA a lot of these resources are not easily available to me, so this may mean moving out of my house. I also might have to pay for all this mess by myself, including auditions, which means that I'm going to be broke. But in the end I think I'd be much better prepared. This is looking like its the best option for me because I realize that since I'm graduating HS a year early that I do not have the extra year that most others had to prepare and get proper training. I also realize that my location also put me in a cage.</p>

<p>I might just end up going to the local community college, however, and just transfer into Christopher Newport University and pursue a theater degree with an MT emphasis there. Then I could do the 5-year fast-track program and get my Masters in teaching. Why didn't I do that in the first place? I have no idea</p>

<p>Those seem like two really good options...the last one would be great! Best of luck with Webster or with your choices if Webster doesn't work out.</p>

<p>freedom - I have been reading your posts and feel deeply for you. I don't know if you would consider Columbia College in Chicago. They have a May 15 application deadline, I think. It's a non-audition school. Someone else posts here regularly and is going to Columbia. It would get you to Chicago where you could be in a major city, be close to all the coaches you need and be readily available for the Unifieds next year, if need be. I am from the Chicago area and would be happy to connect you with a great monologue coach and could probably get some voice teachers recs for you too. Let me know if I can be of any assistance.</p>

<p>I have looked at that. that is in consideration for me, too. But the scholarship application deadline has already passed I believe, so it will probably be much too expensive to go there.</p>

<p>Freedom, I am so sorry about Shenandoah. Your plan to take a gap year, work, and work on your MT skills was my D's plan B, too...and it's not a bad one. But please don't lose heart...you may hear good news from Webster.</p>

<p>You have a WONDERFUL attitude and I hope your parents know what a gem you are.</p>

<p>Robert, I am so sorry to hear about Shenandoah but I echo what soozievt said about your attitude and fortitude being AMAZING! I have to say that even though I don't know you and only had the chance to talk with you and your lovely parents once, I am very proud of the way you have handled this whole process. It shows me that you have the sticktoitiveness (dontcha love that word?) to be a success, which is something that every person pursuing a career in performance MUST have. I am keeping positive thoughts coming for Webster. Hugs to you.</p>