Common versus uncommon parental restrictions on college choices

<p>We know that, for a "traditional" student attending college soon after high school graduation, parents have absolute veto power over the student's college choice, unless the student gets a full ride merit scholarship.</p>

<p>But what actual restrictions do parents tend to place on students' college choices? (Mentioning such restrictions does not necessarily mean approval.)</p>

<ul>
<li>Baseline affordability is an obvious restriction. However, we do see lots of sad stories in April from situations where this was not discussed or mentioned until the student has a bunch of acceptances that are too expensive.</li>
<li>Location appears to be a common one, since it appears that many parents do not want their college student kids to go far from home. Some parents want the student to stay home and commute, even if a more distant school is less expensive overall.</li>
<li>Parents preferring high prestige colleges is sometimes mentioned, with students complaining of emotional abuse or parental threats to not contribute if they consider a less prestigious college (including anything that could possibly be a safety for admissions, or even if the less prestigious college is a better academic fit for the student).</li>
<li>Parents restricting the students to specific majors is sometimes mentioned.</li>
</ul>

<p>D has medical issues. For us, we wanted her to go away and experience college life. We did however place a restriction that we had to be able to get to her by car in case of medical emergency. I did not want to have to rely on planes which could have airstrikes, weather closures, etc…</p>

<p>We had no restrictions- no medical issues or other things that would prevent kid from making a choice.</p>

<p>Dh and I liked all of the colleges on our kids’ lists; they were pickier than we were. One went 3000 miles away, the other went 90 minutes away, yet we saw both of them about the same amount over the four years- although it was certainly easier for the one close to home to come and go over the holidays. Holiday travel is a bear, which is something kids don’t often consider or think they’ll care about. The kid on the other coast spent two Thanksgivings at school, primarily because travel then is so difficult and time is limited.</p>

<p>We never considered restricting the kids to certain majors or using prestige as a measure of suitability, but I’m sure both factored into their decisions.</p>

<p>Moonchild, interesting how you mentioned prestige. D picked a school to attend that is not as “prestigious” as ones she was accepted to. At the end of the day she decided where she was going and which school she felt the best fit for her was. We supported her in her decision, even though it crushed me just a bit that she did not pick the more prestigious school. I kept reminding myself that it was not me attending.</p>

<p>We set a baseline for the combined SAT M/CR at the top of the mid-range of 1200 minimum. </p>

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<li><p>We set a restriction early on they could not apply to a school where they were below the 50% of score averages. They had to be at the 50% mark or higher. Turns out both DSs made that moot for all schools, so they could apply wherever. However, that was a limitation they know existed before they took any standardized tests.</p></li>
<li><p>We also set the restriction they could not attend a school where they would not be really challenged and engaged academically. </p></li>
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<p>Some parents don’t want their kids to attend the sports arch-enemy of the parents’ alma mater.</p>

<p>^^ Or to the acknowledged academic rival school of the parents’ alma mater. That was never a restriction we set, and my one DS obliged and did just that. But, he went one step further - did not even apply to his parents’ alma mater. </p>

<p>We also wanted our children to be at the 50% or higher for both M and CR parts of the SAT. If at the 90% or higher, we wanted to see a fair-sized cohort of similar peers, such as might be found in the honors college of a large research university.</p>

<p>This is tongue in cheek but I’ve told my daughter she can go anywhere but party schools…for me that’s Northwestern (I’m a u of c alum) and Duke (too much lax-bro culture). </p>

<p>No community college</p>

<p>@VSGPeanut101 :slight_smile: </p>

<p>The only real restriction we put on our sons was that EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL on the final list had to be one that they would be willing to attend if that school’s financial package was the best (by a lot–if it ended up that the safety was the cheapest but your favorite was within a few thousand dollars, that was OK.) Don’t apply to a safety school where you are fairly confident that you will get a significant merit package and then tell us later that you hated it from the minute you set foot on the campus and you would never, ever want to go there. Only apply to schools that you would be happy attending. For my older son, he ended up choosing our state flagship because it was by far the least expensive option – even though he was accepted to his first-choice school (which didn’t give him any money at all). And he was OK with that because he went into the application process knowing that the state school might be the most affordable option. For my younger son, he ended up mulling over 6 excellent choices, all of which were fairly comparable in price because of significant merit aid (he’s a way better student than his older brother). In fact, he had a terrible time making his final choice because he absolutely loved the two colleges he ended up narrowing it down to. That’s a great spot to be in–there’s really no wrong choice in that scenario! He DID apply to our state flagship even though he really didn’t want to go there because he also is very fiscally responsible, but as things turned out he ended up with better deals from other schools–including other state universities Go figure. </p>

<p>Also, we told them that if they wanted to apply to schools that were far away, they should be aware of the fact that they would not be coming home every other weekend. They would have to stay at school until at least Thanksgiving or maybe even Christmas, depending on just how far away it was and how the vacation breaks fell. So if the thought of that was distressing in any way, don’t bother to apply. That wasn’t a restriction–that was a stark fact to consider. You can apply, but know what the travel arrangements will be. My older son, who had at first put schools as far away as Texas on his list (we live in New England), began trimming his list to be closer and closer to home as time went on. I think the furthest one to which he eventually applied was 6 hours away in a city that was very accessible by car, plane and train. And then he ended up an hour away from home, and he came home a lot that first year. He apparently knew himself well enough to know that’s what he needed–a gradual transition. Because after that first year, he decided to transfer to a school farther away that better met his desires (he decided he wants a career in the military, so he transferred to a military institute.) My younger son was less hesitant about such a thought, and applied to schools all over the country–including California. (My husband and I were secretly thrilled when he didn’t get accepted to that one because we knew that WE would miss him, even if he didn’t miss us!!) </p>

<p>And also–I guess this one was another “recommendation” rather than a “restriction.” Because I changed my major three times during my college career and was still able to stay at the same school and graduate within 4 years, I advised them both to seriously consider larger schools with a lot of majors to avoid the messy business of transferring if they changed their minds. (Not that it ended up helping my older son, but these things still happen…) However, that was just a suggestion. Both of them ended up applying to large universities and smaller colleges in the end. </p>

<p>@Hunt–your comment made me LOL. Because when we were touring schools with our youngest son, my husband and I were thrilled that he wanted to look at our alma mater (Boston Univ.). We toured the school and then toured Northeastern (one of our alma mater’s sports rival–especially in hockey). And of course, our son really liked…well, not B.U. My husand and I kept smiles on our faces and offered positive comments–but later on my husband leaned over and mumbled to me, “Dear God, I really don’t think I can cheer for Northeastern in the Beanpot!!” Luckily, our son decided not to apply to Northeastern in the end because it doesn’t have the major he was seeking, so the Beanpot crisis was averted. Whew. ; ) </p>

<p>Any restrictions we have are purely financial. </p>

<p>My Bro’s restrictions:</p>

<p>Only European school he’s allowed to go to is Cambridge(Oxbridge Rivalry)
Top 15 in his choice of major(Finance)
No Pre-law/Pre-med
No public schools other than UVA/UMich/UCBerkeley(There were private school restrictions but they were a ton of those)</p>

<p>I think these seem reasonable except for number 1. My parents have nothing against European schools but we believe that other than Cambridge/Oxford US schools are more academically strong. And oxford was out as my family is heavy Cambridge(This was more a light hearted restriction). The public school restriction - my family has money, and prefers private schools as Wall St. recruits more heavily from there.</p>

<p>We did not place formal restrictions. </p>

<p>However, we did discuss issues like:

  1. We did not want to pay a lot more money for a college that looks fun, if she is not getting a better education in return. </p>

<ol>
<li><p>Choosing a school with programs that match her interests.</p></li>
<li><p>Choosing a college that would be challenging, but not so difficult that she was only studying and not getting involved in clubs, or research, or social activities, and enjoying the college experience.</p></li>
<li><p>Choosing a school with good access to internships and real world experiences</p></li>
<li><p>Choosing a school with strong job placement when college is done.</p></li>
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<p>Started off by looking at the CTCL’s</p>

<p>We had no absolute restrictions (other than certain schools which I believe are overpriced at full-pay and for which I would have resented writing the check, but I’m not going to name them). I did consider these factors, among others, in evaluating schools during the application stage:
four-year graduation rate
freshman retention rate
percentage of full-time residential students (should be very high)
percentage of lower-level courses taught by part-time contingent faculty (should be low)
percentage of faculty possessing terminal degrees in their disciplines
per-student endowment (a sign of deep resources and ability to offer classes in arcane areas of student interest)
existence of a Phi Beta Kappa chapter (not a requirement, but a signal)</p>

<p>No restrictions but a requirement: My kids had to apply to the UC system (both applied to 3 campuses, though I don’t remember if 3 was a requirement or merely a suggestion) – with the understanding that they would be allowed to attend any UC that they got into – but that I would not promise to pay for private colleges if cost exceeded the cost of whichever UC was most expensive after factoring in financial aid. </p>

<p>The UC system was their safety – hence the requirement. Not exactly a financial “safety” for me, but I did feel that I had a parental obligation to subsidize an in-state public education. Both kids ended up with out-of-state school that were somewhat more expensive, but well under the full-pay COA for the in-state publics.</p>

<p>The requirement was due to finances, and also because I didn’t want to find myself in the position of paying a premium for a private college that I believed to be significantly weaker academically than the our in-state public. </p>

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<p>That’s seem like an odd restriction to me. Can you explain why? Were you looking for schools where you could expect large merit awards? </p>