Conflicting advice - so confused!

<p>No, just the NOLA one. (you can find all the acceptances on their website).</p>

<p>[Xavier</a> University of Louisiana](<a href=“http://www.xula.edu/premed/Statistics/Acceptances1011.html]Xavier”>http://www.xula.edu/premed/Statistics/Acceptances1011.html) While apparently they have been the top school for placing african american students into medical and medically related programs for many years, their stats combine dentistry, medical, optometry, medprep preparatory and osteopatic medicine, mini. While the stats are very impressive, it is hard to compare their stats to schools that list med (allopathic and osteopatic) schools only.</p>

<p>** edit- According to this, about 10% (150-160) of the Tulane graduating seniors enter med school each year, so this clearly trumps the impressive stats from Xavier and their admissions to the varying medical training programs.

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<p>The Creative Scholars program is much more up my alley than the 6+1. It would allow me to major in anthro and study abroad, and best of all, avoid the MCATs. It IS very tempting and if I go to Tulane it will be for that reason. The only drawback is that if I chose to go elsewhere for premed, it would probably be more difficult to get in (this comes straight from one of the deans). </p>

<p>@Mini - all of the schools I’m considering have cheerleading, not just Notre Dame. In fact, you can’t even cheer at ND until you’re a sophomore. That is not the reason I’m considering ND and is the least important issue I’m weighing.</p>

<p>I think you have heard from a lot of people now, and just have to look deep in your heart and talk to your family. Good luck.</p>

<p>Tulane is also building a new football stadium and hired a new football coach. This should significantly improve school spirit as the students would more easily be able to go to games.</p>

<p>To clarify tulanes stadium will be on campus. Right now they have to go to the Superdome.</p>

<p>Xavier - Fall of 2010:</p>

<pre><code>248 students enrolled in medical school,
8 students enrolled in osteopathic medical school,
42 students enrolled in dental school,
3 students enrolled in veterinary medical school,
12 students enrolled in podiatry school,
5 students enrolled in optometry school,
7 students enrolled in chiropractic school, and
34 students enrolled in public health or health administration school.
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<p>(But I think that’s all graduates currently enrolled, not just the prior year’s grads. So it’s likely a three-year or so roll-up. But they only have around 2,500 undergrads, and award only about 500 undergrad degrees a year, or a little under, so the number would be way more than 10%.)</p>

<p>Ok, I’ll be the bold one here. If your parents are fine with it all, (holding off on some discretionary things and Mom working,) if there potentially will be resources (or a plan) for them to also help with med school, if “life” things like study abroad, anthro, the campus enviroment, not being “locked into” med shool, etc, are important to you, go ahead and choose the school you love best and can commit to. Try to ensure your parents are backed up for their own needs (building toward retirement, money for unexpected emergencies, etc) and go for it. As kinderny suggests, time to turn back to the family.</p>

<p>I don’t know how many posters here have been to NO. (I haven’t.) My friend lived there pre-Katrina and was not happy Tulane was on her son’s list last year- partly for reasons OP has articulated. (She was happy he was rejected.) I took one of my kids to visit an entirely different college that was similarly distressed and had a similar reaction. OP’s family is not fighting for Tulane. Or the least expensive options.</p>

<p>I don’t know Miami or ND but do know UVA and USC. Assume OP has visited. Both have tons of serious, highly qualified students and some portion of players. Both have the usual large classrooms in some intro classes. Both are beloved, as is ND. </p>

<p>OP, I wonder if you have yet told your parents about the strong pro-Tulane reactions here and what their response was…</p>

<p>Also, the Xavier stats are impressive. There are a number of HBCs and women’s colleges that feed kids into some med schools that reserve spots. But, each kid still has to go through the pre-med weeding and then qualify.</p>

<p>Last, Baylor: Much as I respect Baylor,I understand the concern about being a Catholic (16%) at a school that is the largest Baptist U in the world. When you add Baptist and non-denominational Christians, that’s 48%. Good luck, keep us posted. You sound like a great kid.</p>

<p>mini, that list is the <em>total</em> number of xavier grads enrolled in med, osteopathic, dentistry, vet school, podiatry, optometry and chiropractic schools as of fall 2010, not the number that enrolled from the 2010 graduating class. [Xavier</a> University of Louisiana](<a href=“http://www.xula.edu/premed/]Xavier”>Premedical Office | Xavier University of Louisiana)<br>
Here’s the list of students who graduated in 2010 and where they had been admitted. It was 37 students in the myriad of medically related fields. [Xavier</a> University of Louisiana](<a href=“http://www.xula.edu/premed/Statistics/Acceptances0910.html]Xavier”>http://www.xula.edu/premed/Statistics/Acceptances0910.html)</p>

<p>But enough of taking this thread off topic. As an aside, that link says there were 575 xaviar grads in medically related schools in fall of 2009. The fall 2010 total was down to 359. Don’t know how much of the drop reflects graduations vs attrition. But no matter.</p>

<p>Lots get back to the topic at hand.</p>

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I have. Multiple times. About to go again in a month or so. What would you like to know?</p>

<p>Pink Dalmation, you asked why no one was suggesting Miami. I have a freshman D at Miami. Sure, there are a number of kids there that are partiers. However, Miami definitely uses merit money to attract the students they want, and there is a huge number of serious academic students. The school is large enough that everyone finds their group. My D is definitely not a partier, but she is social. She is involved in numerous activities and joined a sorority. She has found the professors to be first rate, and the advising is superb. In fact, my older D is at an Ivy, and I have to say that I have been very impressed with Miami. In terms of what to do, I think that is a decision you need to make with your family. But I can tell you that I would give Miami a very good look. D chose Miami (Stamps) over trustee at USC, Johnson Scholars at W&L, Rice, Wash U, Northwestern and Vanderbilt. One year later, she can’t believe it was a hard decision for her. She absolutely loves it and has been given so many wonderful opportunities. Good luck with your decision.</p>

<p>"mini, that list is the <em>total</em> number of xavier grads enrolled in med, osteopathic, dentistry, vet school, podiatry, optometry and chiropractic schools as of fall 2010, not the number that enrolled from the 2010 graduating class.:</p>

<p>That’s what I said. :wink: It is essentially a three-year roll-up, with about 80 per year at med school. (248 total in med school at the time, 8 in osteopath med school.) Number of graduates dropped substantially post Katrina, which is why the overall drop.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.xula.edu/premed/[/url]”>http://www.xula.edu/premed/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Not correct, according to their website, mini. Please read the link and the placement of the students in the last few years. Lets not derail this tread any more. Please. This isnt about Xavier.</p>

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<p>In that case, go to the best school: UVA.</p>

<p>The best school…UVA? Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.</p>

<p>There are certainly a lot of USC haters on cc, as usual. No, it’s not a huge party school. It had that reputation and worse 20 years ago. I don’t doubt it was true. But it seems several posters do not like USC for many reasons that have nothing to do with the school it is today. It is currently ranked 22 on USN&WR, a ranking system I do not like, but there is certainly a difference between academic rigor at USC today compared with schools ranked 25 positions lower. Does that view (whether you may agree or not) counter the very logical argument voiced by many parents that the $$ should be the biggest factor in this decision? No. Of course not. Not if OP’s parents are saying she must choose the least expensive option. But that’s not what they said. Should she infer that they are really secretly hoping she’ll go to a school she does not prefer because it will help them remodel their kitchen sooner? It is up to OP to have a real serious conversation with them and find out.</p>

<p>I am not here to suggest selecting ND, USC or any other school is the right choice. I’m just annoyed to see USC bashing (a pretty typical cc pastime) as it is a highly selective school that admits accomplished, top stat students, has an excellent premed program, communities of artsy students and engineering majors and top accounting students, and of course, great school spirit, which the OP states she’s looking for.</p>

<p>OK, had to get that ^^ off my chest. As to Tulane, I think it is a wonderful school, as is U Miami. But I’m not the one who has to attend.</p>

<p>OP, if your parents reveal that they really would feel much relieved if you choose a more reasonably priced university for UG, you should revisit both of these. I’d suggest calling your admissions rep at Tulane and leveling with him/her about your misgivings. Ask if you might meet with someone who is in your major while you are there and ask them what they really think of the college.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>I’d pick UVA too. Have you visited?</p>

<p>I think the OP is being very thoughtful. Looking at the reasons students have been unhappy at a school, adjusting for the “complainers”, and then assessing if any are a dealbreaker for you, can be a meaningful exercise.
Other thoughts:
If Tulane is being so heavily recommended from a $ standpoint here, then Miami deserves a serious look as well.
Being from CA, my take is that the various views on this thread re USC are all true to some extent, depending on the particular sampling of current students you know.
UVA seems to be in the middle range $ wise, and given everything the OP has said, deserves serious consideration.
Good luck in this decision.</p>

<p>“it’s because Miami, USC, and ND are bigger party schools than Tulane.”</p>

<p>Yep, that’s what I think, too, though Tulane is no slouch in the party department.</p>

<p>“If Tulane is being so heavily recommended from a $ standpoint here, then Miami deserves a serious look as well.”</p>

<p>I don’t see why. The scholarship is smaller, and IMHO it doesn’t offer any academic advantage to the OP compared to Tulane.</p>

<p>^^Because the OP spent 3 days at Tulane and has serious concerns whether or not she would thrive there.</p>