<p>I was recently accepted as a junior transfer to Cornell's Applied Economics and Management major, and to the undergraduate business school at Georgetown.</p>
<p>My goal is to either enter the world of investment banking or to attend a top 10 law school and specialize in corporate law.</p>
<p>In terms of academics, social life, financial aid, internship opportunities, prestige, and job placement, how would you rank the 2?</p>
<p>Academics: AEM is ranked higher and Cornell is ranked higher overall, but hey Georgetown is certainly no slouch
Social Life: Georgetown = beautiful little, suburb-like area of DC means a city social life. Cornell is more typical college experience (frats, etc…)
Financial Aid: I’m guessing even
Internships: Even (Georgetown= Location!, Cornell= Prestige, alumni network)
Prestige: Cornell AEM is very selective and Cornell is Ivy, but Georgetown (again) is no slouch either
Job Placement: As far as I-banks, Cornell</p>
<p>Gtown is very preppy urban lifestyle…the campus i hear is very compact too…</p>
<p>Cornell is definitely more oriented towards corporate stuff…although Gtown probably has better local opp (it is DC afterall)</p>
<p>Georgetown has very little money compared to its peers. I doubt the financial aid is even.</p>
<p>I was going to say that about the financial aid as well.</p>
<p>thank you for input! i’m still waiting to hear from other schools, but right now i’m leaning towards cornell</p>
<p>Are you interested in exploring anything outside of business? e.g. international relations or computer science or psychology or history?</p>
<p>aem is definitely a better program, and cornell is a better school. however, i love georgetown and i personally think it has a great social atmosphere, good weather, etc… a good mix of “suburb” (kind of) and big city. </p>
<p>if you are interested more in finance/marketing go aem. if you might want to do consulting at booz allen. georgetown will get you better government focused business jobs.</p>
<p>Cayuga: I’ve always been interested in political science (i’ve taken government, international relations, philosophy, and history classes as electives) but ultimately want to pursue a career in finance/corporate law.</p>
<p>jcas: i’ve visited georgetown a couple of times (was there a week ago) and you’re right; it has a great atmosphere. The restaurants, bars, stores, metro, museums, etc make it a great city to live in. But i’m thinking that might also be a distraction lol.</p>
<p>Georgetown has many opportunities during the school year to work at an internship. Cornell has a program too where you can spend a semester in DC. Cornell has more financial resources than Georgetown, but Georgetown has the better location.</p>
<p>Also, if you’re going to law school, all they really care about is GPA and LSAT. AEM courses are known to have inflated grades (i.e. A averages).</p>
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<p>if you want a career in corporate law i would probably consider the two a wash. obviously take every ranking with a grain of salt (including usnews which vastly underrates georgetown)</p>
<p>if you’re trying to decide between the two don’t you know you’re financial aid package? georgetown likely won’t offer as much</p>
<p>to say cornell is a “better school” is a bit overstated. certainly in terms of sheer quantity of subjects cornell is better than georgetown in more as it as a large research university and georgetown is smaller and more focused</p>
<p>for sciences, engineering etc. cornell no question…evne though aem is higher ranked, if you’re trying to work for a bank georgetown is just as good if not better…as far as political science and ir goes georgetown is the way to go</p>
<p>in banking/finance cornell and any other ivy are far more represented than georgetown… if you haven’t witnessed it first hand, look at the campus recruiting schedules for many top firms. in sciences etc cornell is better since it is a larger research school. if you are interested in gov, public policy, political sci, consulting, maybe even law (but that’s probably a wash) i would go to georgetown. cornell is not heavily recruited for consulting, and the georgetown network would offer you a ton of really interesting dc based positions in consulting. </p>
<p>cornell students generally go to NYC, Georgetown go to DC after graduation… aside from individual strengths of the school, its just easier to recruit closer to where the company is based.</p>
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<p>I think you are really understating Cornell’s place in DC here. Cornell has a huge network in DC, and a lot of the students in Arts, ILR, and PAM go on to work in government, law, or consulting in the District. Keep in mind that here are over 3500 Cornell students in each graduating class, and the vast majority do not end up in NYC.</p>
<p>Also, having lived on Georgetown’s campus while completing a summer internship at one of D.C.'s top think-tanks and partying with tons of kids working on Capital Hill, I am not convinced that Georgetown is necessarily a better place than Cornell for somebody interested in government/policy. (I also think that the neighborhood of Georgetown is a rich, uppity hell-hole that fails to serve the needs of your average college student.)</p>
<p>I might be able to buy an argument that Georgetown is better for international relations, but even then Cornell has just as many students winning Fulbrights as Georgetown.</p>
<p><a href=“US Fulbright Program - Home Page”>US Fulbright Program - Home Page;
<p>You are right, I may be oversimplifying this. I have spent the Spring looking for DC based jobs and have definitely been utilizing the Cornell network. I do know many students who have had strong Capitol Hill, Lobby Firm, and Think Tank internship. Many of them, however, were from the DC area and had connections. This morning my friend at Georgetown sent me a bunch of postings for jobs/internships from their recruiting website and there were a ton of high profile opportunities at think tanks, consulting firms, and NGO’s that focus on international development and trade policy (my AEM concentration), that you would never find on the Cornell recruiting board. I am trying to switch from finance to a policy position, and have had difficulty utilizing SOME of Cornell’s resources. </p>
<p>Cornell has a very strong DC alumni base, and offers great programs like Cornell in Washington, but the traditional recruiting for DC positions in policy and consulting (ie: not through networking, but on the career website) is stronger in my opinion. On the Cornell CareerNet, it is rare to see DC policy positions, while there are many traditional business offerings… Maybe this is a shortfall of the Cornell Career Services department, and not a result Cornell’s academic merits. I did just apply to 8 policy positions in DC after looking at postings sent to me from the Georgetown site.</p>
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<p>Bingo. Anybody using Cornell Career services in lieu of surfing the web and finding the opportunities they want is doing themselves a disservice – especially for government/policy tracks. The summer I spent in DC I had Cornell friends at Brookings, AEI, CATO, Urban, AFL-CIO, The American Prospect, The Washington Monthly, and all over Capitol Hill.</p>
<p>Also don’t underestimate the Cornell-in-Washington programs abillity to get students great internships, as well.</p>
<p>cayuga are you actually using that link to put cornell ir on the same level as gtown? not only does cornell have more than twice the undergraduate population but if you look at the numbers cornell had 20 winners for 75 applicants and georgetown had 18 winners for 44 aplicants</p>
<p>the same logic can be applied to wall street presence…of course cornell has a greater quantity of bankers but per capita georgetown has just as much success</p>
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<p>All I am saying is that I am not convinced that Georgetown is the end-all-be-all place to study International Relations, and that Cornell has a lot of very strong programs in both international politics and different area studies. In fact, for anybody interested in international relations with Eastern and Southern Asia, it’s hard to beat Cornell. Combine this with Cornell’s strengths in the applied sciences and social sciences, and you have a very potent degree. </p>
<p>Not that I would necessarily trust these rankings, but Georgetown was recently ranked 5th for undergraduate study – Cornell was 13th. But for graduate study, Cornell outplaced Georgetown. So the academics are definitely there.</p>
<p>[Foreign</a> Policy: Inside the Ivory Tower](<a href=“http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4685&page=1]Foreign”>http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4685&page=1)</p>
<p>I would also discourage you from comparing the “acceptance rates” for the Fulbright – it is very much a function of which country you choose to apply to. And don’t apply it to the size of the student body because there are likely many more students at Cornell that have no interest in a Fulbright than at some other schools. My basic point, however, was that Cornellians don’t seem to be having any more difficulty winning Fulbrights than students at other top colleges.</p>
<p>Two of the last four World Bank presidents and National Security Advisers were Cornell alums. Cornell must be doing something right.</p>
<p>But the OP should decide if they want to be in Ithaca with a big campus feel or the District with more of an urban feel.</p>