<p>From Ross, 12 took jobs with JPM, 10 with GS, 4 with Citigroup, 4 with Merrill, 3 with Lehman Brothers, 3 with Lazard and 3 with Morgan Stanley. But don't underestimate UBS and CS. They are certainly as important as Merrill. I am not sure about Cornell's AEM numbers, but I doubt they are better than Ross'.</p>
<p>As for your analysis of Cornell and Michigan, you are off. Yes, Cornell is tougher to get into...but that does not mean the student body at Cornell is significantly better. On average, students at both universities have practically the same stats (the only difference is the mean SAT score, where Cornell is, on average, about 30 points higher)...and like I said, Ross students are better than the average Michigan student.</p>
<p>I personally picked Michigan over Cornell and would do so again without hesitation. That is not to say that Michigan is better...but it certainly was better for me.</p>
<p>Ross must definetely have grade inflation or the courses are too damn easy. Their median is gpa after 4 years in Ross was 3.61. My cousin was correct to say that Ross kids were stupid and partied most of the time. Other biz schools like Stern, it is much harder to maintain that kind of gpa because the courses are much harder. True it is hard to get in, but the school itself is not too hard. If you want your college experience to be intellectually gifting, I would pick Cornell. Engineering in Umich is a whole different story.</p>
<p>Are Ross students heavily recruited to the NYC branches of these firms or are they more concentrated in the Chicago area?</p>
<p>Also if I am interested in concentrating in Management and/or Finance, how would Ross be looked at as opposed its competitors such as Stern, Cornell, Chicago and Georgetown?</p>
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Ross must definetely have grade inflation or the courses are too damn easy. Their median is gpa after 4 years in Ross was 3.61. My cousin was correct to say that Ross kids were stupid and partied most of the time. Other biz schools like Stern, it is much harder to maintain that kind of gpa because the courses are much harder. True it is hard to get in, but the school itself is not too hard. If you want your college experience to be intellectually gifting, I would pick Cornell. Engineering in Umich is a whole different story.
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<p>I think the OP wants a school that will get him the best employment opportunities. Ross boasts some pretty good numbers. As for calling Ross kids stupid, if they're so stupid, why is Lazard hiring kids from Ross but doesn't even bother with on campus recruiting at NYU Stern?</p>
<p>sports684 - I wouldn't go and say UBS is a weak firm. All firms seem to have strengths and weaknesses, for example UBS LA manages to send a good number of analysts to PE jobs. I think their healthcare group is supposed to be very nice also.</p>
<p>Ross doesn't have grade inflation. Students who get into Ross have maintained and average GPA of 3.6 at Michigan (taking classes in the college of LSA) and Michigan's LSA isn't known for grade inflation. If anything, Michigan is known for grade deflation. The mean GPA at Michigan LSA is 3.0. Only the top 15% or so have GPAs of 3.6+, which is quite difficult to maintain. So, those students who get into Ross are students who have already proven themselves at the University of Michigan and that is why they maintain such high GPAs.</p>
<p>If you think Cornell AEM is better than Ross, you are on some serious drugs. Ross is a complete business school that gets recruited from most of the top firms. AEM is just a business program, with average classes, and most classes dealing with agriculture. </p>
<p>I personally just got into the preffered admit program, after having been deffered from AEM. Right now I'm leaning 99% towards Ross and 1% towards AEM. You cant even compare the two. Why then does Ross publish all their recruiting information with complete numbers, and AEM publishes a stupid list with zero good information. Ross is definately worth the risk of going to Michigan. Although the numbers on the Ross website say the average is 55,000 salary, I know people coming out of Ross getting almost double that.</p>
<p>what were ur stats like Josh? I couldn't find out because I had to withdraw my application. I agree, there is no comparison between the two schools.</p>
<p>josh..you can't be more wrong buddy...i guess thats why you were deferred from AEM. AEM is in the college of agriculture and there is one agricultural course you could take in the whole program - that is the only relevance it has to agriculture...im not even wasting my time with your stupidity - the AEM program i just as heavily recruited if not more heavily recruited for top finance jobs than Ross. I was given four offers to top BB firms, and tons of friends were just as fortunate - please do not speak unless you are knowledgable..and don't take your anger out for getting deferred from AEM on this board</p>
<p>and AEM is a business school - it was accredited two years ago and ranked for the first time ever - pretty amazing to be ranked 12 after never being ranked at all (which is completely based on reputation)- it is being named within the next year and will be a top 5 program, as projected by many in the field, within four..so please do your research before running your mouth.</p>
<p>there is nothing like an ivy league degree for wall street and if you turn down michigan for cornell, you join the minority of students who do and it will be a huge mistake..but you first have to get into cornell before you even have that option</p>
<p>AEM is a good program, but the fact that it refuses to release recruiting information undermines its reputation since school such as Stern, Ross, Mcdonough etc have all released fairly detail reports making it easier to compare and gauge the level of the biz program with their competitors, especially with Wharton since it is the top undergrad biz school.</p>
<p>Josh, I like your reasoning. You got into Ross but were deferred from AEM so therefore Ross is better because you are probably going to end up there. Are you familiar with the word bias?</p>
<p>thank you plmok..and secondly...they are currently compiling data right now.cuz its only the second year they have been an accredited program...believe me..the jobs of students coming out of any ivy league business program is going to be comparable to all of the top programs</p>
<p>Sports, I turned down 4 Ivies for Michigan and I still got jobs with three IBanks when I graduated...and I wasn't even a Ross student (I majored in Economics). I am also a Cornell alum (MILR, class of 01) and I loved my experience there too. But you are gravely mistaken if you think there is an appreciable difference between Cornell and Michigan. Those two universities, both of which are admittedly underrated on this forum, are amazing.</p>
<p>you are def right alexandre - there is not an appreciable difference..I just personally believe there is nothing like an ivy league degree, but some may disagree and that is completely acceptable..Umich is a wonderful school - I am not arguing the contrary.</p>
<p>average starting salary means nothing - a few more kids in AEM may have wanted to work for a nonprofit while in Umich a few more kids decided to take ibanking jobs paying 6 figures - you have to find out how many students can land a top paying job WHO WANT ONE.</p>