<p>The money's pretty much equal, Cornell's giving me about 2k more/year.</p>
<p>The things I'm most worried about are GPA Deflation at Cornell, the networking, my business opportunities since I won't actually be in a business field, and the competition I'll be facing as an out of business major student for the already limited opportunities presented to those students.</p>
<p>Please provide your insight!</p>
<p>There is no GPA deflation at Cornell. Especially in ILR. And, if anything, ILR students are given a leg-up in the business world due to the unique skill-set and worldview they bring to the table.</p>
<p>Cornell and Notre Dame are two pretty different places. Do you want to have members of the opposite sex in your dorm?</p>
<p>Haha it’s something that would be nice, but it’s not like I wouldn’t go somewhere because of it.</p>
<p>I actually stayed at ND for 4 days with a student so I got a pretty good feel for the campus vibe and all that good stuff. I’m actually flying out to Cornell tomorrow so hopefully that gives me a little bit better of a perspective!</p>
<p>And to your GPA deflation comment: I had heard that Cornell has one of the worst GPA deflation rates out of all the Ivys? Is this just not true?</p>
<p>Not true at all. Especially outside of the physical sciences. The median grade for most courses in ILR is an A or an A-.</p>
<p>Mhmm ic. Cayuga would you happen to be in ILR? Would have any info on just how much you like the program/how much you think it prepares you for business/how well people normally do going into business from ILR?</p>
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<p>not for the CORE courses in ILR…though that is true for the electives inside of ILR…</p>
<p>i am in ILR (few others here too) and am ready for business (if i wanted to do it) not only b/c i’m familiar with labor v. management relations through the ILR courses but because I’ve been able to take your generic business courses outside of ILR…</p>
<p>i’m also ready to be a global citizen (not only b/c of my IR minor but because of the ILR focus going global too)…i could do international work in business or government or non-profit…</p>
<p>i would say that ILR majors think differently (they see more than just the bottom line) than your regular business majors D:</p>
<p>You do not have to worry about networking. The ILR Alumni network is very active and involved in a variety of fields. In addition, ILR is a specialty, and the best at that specialty to boot. Thus, while employers will be flooded with the business management types, your name and degree will stick out. I mean there are ILR seniors that compete with master’s degree recipients for full-time jobs. You will have a different perspective that employers will value. Hence, there is a great job security with ILR and will open many doors for you. In addition, look at this: <a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/careerservices/postGrad/upload/PostGradBachelors2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/careerservices/postGrad/upload/PostGradBachelors2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>You have some big names represented. Finally, I would like to point out that the Cornell Entrepreneur of the Year is an ILRie.</p>
<p>Well I hope all you Cornell fans should know that after visiting Cornell I completely feel in love and will be mailing my registration on Monday =]</p>
<p>how do ilr and aem compare for business opportunities? does ilr place students on wall street, main street, etc.?</p>
<p>From the research that I’ve done and the people that I’ve talked to: yes!</p>
<p>The word that I’ve gotten is ILR gives you a different perspective to business, and although many students go into HR or go to law school, those going into business place very well in competitive jobs and internships. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/careerservices/postGrad/upload/PostGradBachelors2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/careerservices/postGrad/upload/PostGradBachelors2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>thanks roneald.</p>
<p>with ILR you have to be smart though…you have to supplement your courses with what you want to study…</p>
<p>Lol cs12345 you should thank ResurgamBell he taught me a lot of what I know about ILR. To further answer your question I think you should look at my thread from earlier this month:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/685529-transfering-ilr-aem-cas-econ-general-ilr-questions.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/685529-transfering-ilr-aem-cas-econ-general-ilr-questions.html</a></p>
<p>You sound like you have the same questions as me and a lot of those are answered in that thread.</p>
<p>Roneald—you should have attended Cornell Days and did the ILR programs offered. </p>
<p>About me:
I am also deciding between a strict business school and ILR. I didn’t apply to AEM in the first place (even though I had a good shot at getting in) because my interests lined up more in ILR. I do not think I am interested in the law side of things, although I will enjoy taking a class or too. I want to focus on business.</p>
<p>Why ILR over generic business program:</p>
<p>-The diversity the program offers is incredible. You get a ton of electives, and if you go in with AP questions you can go in without needing to take a ton of freshman year classes. This frees up your schedule and gives you a chance to explore interests. The fact that the program has 6 areas is awesome, and because you are at Cornell, you can easily take classes in different colleges because of all the electives ILR gives you. I plan on taking classes from AEM, but also utilizing the unique program to study biology, writing, etc.</p>
<p>-The ILR alumni network was impressive. You won’t have trouble getting a job after graduation, and I feel that ILR has distinct advantages when going into the workforce. </p>
<p>-ILR seems to be unaffected by the grade deflation at Cornell. Cornell DOES have the worst grade deflation of the ivies, but only a couple classes (if any) have a downward curve in ILR. It will not be an issue, at all.</p>
<p>-Cornell seems to have the “do it yourself” attitude, but this doesn’t seem to be true in ILR. Students are friendly and everyone seems willing to help each other, and the administration seems to offer a lot more help than in other programs at Cornell.</p>
<p>-And don’t forget, if it doesn’t work out for whatever reason you have a good shot at being able to transfer into AEM, a 100 percent business school.</p>
<p>I think I am attending Cornell. If my decision was made solely on the quality of the academic program, I wouldn’t think twice.</p>
<p>College1221- I actually did attend Cornell Days and I was there for 3 days, stayed with two different hosts, and talked with people at ILR in career services, advising, along with a panel discussion and lunch with 4 different different representatives (2 a day)! I must admit it was very informative.</p>
<p>Yeah, my two biggest concerns were going to be networking into the business world (rather than HR/law) and the grade deflation, but your comments (along with those of others) seems to have eased my tension.</p>
<p>As of right, it seems that I too will be attending ILR in the fall =]</p>
<p>False. Cornell doesn’t have the worst grade deflation of the ivies.</p>
<p>Princeton does. Look at average gpa’s across colleges.</p>
<p>I forgot to ask, you say the alumni network was impressive- what distinctively gave you this impression?</p>
<p>stop using this board to make yourself feel better. no one ever decides between cornell and notre dame…</p>
<p>i just read your post about notre dame versus columbia</p>
<p>looks like you have ivy envy and are taking away from the sanctity of this board. go to notre dame because obviously didn’t get into cornell.</p>
<p>Peter are you referring to me?</p>
<p>Not to be rude to Cornell’s program since I am going there but in no way is it a “no-brainier” decision, and I know plently of esteemed personal who have suggested I go to Notre Dame instead of Cornell.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t think that I’ve ever posted in a Columbia vs Notre Dame thread.</p>
<p>And finally, if you don’t think I got into Harvard, Cornell, or Wharton, I’d be glad to refer you to members on this board who have been on campus with me and helped, thanks.</p>
<p>Good decision. Cornell is a good choice here.</p>