Cornell vs. University of Florida

<p>University of Florida </p>

<p>Pro
- I'm in the honors program
- Florida Bright Futures (100% tuition)
- Florida Prepaid College ( 30 grand pretty much covers room & board etc for 4 years)
- Accelerated Pharmacy school</p>

<p>Con
- I don't really like the school
- I want to be in an environment where pretty much most people are smarter than me. This is how I grow. Through competition and adaptation. I doubt UF will offer that for me. I'm almost sure that is the case.</p>

<p>Cornell University</p>

<p>Pro
- Probably 100 times better than UF education-wise
- Beautiful
- Ivy League
- Provides me with the opportunity to grow and become Amazing due to the environment.</p>

<p>Con
- I'm pretty sure Ivy league schools besides Harvard and Yale give terrible financial aid. This is my guess, but my BRACE advisor told me this (Guidance)
- My EFC is 12000 and my dad has just lost his job. Its not looking great</p>

<p>What a stupid way to say no to such and amazing institute</p>

<p>What do you think? Feedback would be excellent</p>

<p>I'm in a very similar situation here...</p>

<p>Does Cornell's financial aid office know that your father lost his job? If not, you should tell them and ask if they can recalculate your need.</p>

<p>sorry to hear your situation... If I were you, I would def go to Florida. Money is a great factor in your life, even though you might think that you can pay back after your graduation. Plus you don't know when your dad might possibly get his job back.</p>

<p>sorry again, but University of Florida is a great school (if you really dont like it, that would one of the sacrifices you will have to make throughout your life time)</p>

<p>but once again, this is just me.</p>

<p>both are great school, but most importanly, you are the one who can make yourself successful, not the school you attend</p>

<p>Yes...you are the only one who can make yourself successful. But...I don't recommend going to a place where you will be miserable for 4 years. College is a once in a lifetime experience and it's better to look back with fond memories :-) Trust me....I didn't have the option of going to Cornell since they rejected me so I went to my dad's alma mater and I HATED it, I was miserable...so I decided to reapply to the one school where I was happiest....Cornell.</p>

<p>Money is an important factor in admissions....wait to see your financial aid package. If it's not acceptable, you have the right to appeal. You can make them aware of your dad's unemployment and they can (hopefully) recalculate a more acceptable package.</p>

<p>Thank you for your response</p>

<p>I'm still towards Cornell though</p>

<p>I want to be in an environment where I can drink tea or coffee, and discuss politics, philosophy, engineering, and have engaging conversations with people and learn people's different point of views. This sounds like Cornell, not UF</p>

<p>You should wait to hear back from cornell financial aid office. Money is a very important factor in selecting a college, though. Also, I encourage you to call the fin. aid office asap in explaining your current situation. And, yeah, I agree that Cornell would be a better institution for a student like you than UF. Hopefully all works out in the end.</p>

<p>Interestingly enough, I called the financial aid department and a secretary answered. She explained to me that my father's lost job would affect next year's decision and not this year. However, I believe she didnt really know what she was talking about. I'm sure If I talk to the real person behind it, maybe I can get some money</p>

<p>Do you want to be a pharmacist? If this is the case then you would have to go to UF. It doesn't matter too too much where you get a PharmD from. You should be able to get a great job after you graduate.</p>

<p>Umm.. Pharmacy would be great If I was stuck going to UF (For Safety)</p>

<p>However, I truely want to do Computer Science with a Pre-Med Track</p>

<p>I want to mix Medicine and Computer Science</p>

<p>If you want to do Computer Science, then Cornell HANDS DOWN! - we've got one of the best computer science departments IN THE WORLD.</p>

<p>If your package is based on your father's income..ASK FOR AN APPEAL!!!!! I'm not yelling, just emphasizing :-) you have the right to do so.</p>

<p>From the FA website FAQ for prospectives:</p>

<p>Is there a financial aid appeal process?</p>

<p>If there is new information that affects your family's ability to meet the expected family contribution, or if you think we may have overlooked some aspect of your family's financial circumstances, you may request a reconsideration of your financial aid package. Please notify our office in writing (via email, fax, or US mail) of your request for aid reconsideration, making sure to clearly mark any correspondence "Appeal." Since we offer the best aid package we can based on the initial information we've been given, reconsideration is based on additional supporting documentation provided by your family. This includes most recent federal tax returns if they haven't already been sent.</p>

<p>Well...</p>

<p>My mom makes 45000 dollars a year and my Dad used to make 35000 dollars a year</p>

<p>I will call though and fight for it :)</p>

<p>Just wanted an opinion. Oh and I don't get offended at the yelling and stuff. I'm not sensitive like that. I'm just thrilled that you responded and shared your opinion :)</p>

<p>45000+35000 = 80K</p>

<p>you know about the new financial aid plan right? </p>

<p>"Unveiled by Cornell Provost Carolyn Martin, the plan — which will start next fall and continue during the next two years — will eliminate need-based loans for undergraduate students from families with incomes under $60,000 and cap loans annually at $3,000 for students from families with incomes between $60,000 and $120,000 in the first year.</p>

<p>In the next school year, the program will permanently eliminate need-based loans for students from families with incomes up to $75,000 and will cap annual loans at $3,000 for students from families with income between $75,000 and $120,000."</p>

<p><a href="http://theithacan.org/am/publish/news/200802_New_Cornell_aid_plan_to_benefit_middle_class.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://theithacan.org/am/publish/news/200802_New_Cornell_aid_plan_to_benefit_middle_class.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Try an appeal, but if that doesn't work. Loans don't seem that terrible for just one year, do they?</p>

<p>I really hope you can come to Cornell. Although UF is a great school (I myself also live in FL), think about the ample opportunities Cornell will give you. Research, job, education, great experience in another part of the country, cool people... </p>

<p>To me, the fact that you do not like UF answers your question. Think about it, it's a place you will be going for the next four years. This is, college!!! Four of the best years of your life! Make the most out of it, and try not let money prevent that from happening.</p>

<p>Best of luck.</p>

<p>that applies to need-based loans....but depending on family assets and the # of kids in college there is also the parent contribution and student contribution that is not covered by need-based loans.</p>

<p>I have no problem getting loans for myself. My issue arises with the fact that my parents have sustained me for 18 years. This is supposed to be their break time. Where they don't have to worry about money. I'm considering software development online to pay them to pay Cornell. My goal here is to eliminate their requirements to pay. Unfortunately good colleges want them to be involved. I personally don't believe in this. Let the kid fend for himself. Leave the parents alone. But thats just my opinion. I'm sure many of you believe parents should be involved. Just my opinion</p>

<p>My parents are of the belief that a college education should be the responsibility of the kid....so I had to take out loans in my name to cover their requested contribution. And starting in December I get to enter the repayment process....I'm scared :-)</p>

<p>Unless you get federal loans...you will need a co-signer for your loans most likely. Just a heads up.</p>

<p>I Agree with your parents. Unfortunately this is not the case</p>

<p>yeah....I have a lot of friends who have parents that wrote checks for $40,000 every year....I agree it shouldn't be that way.</p>

<p>Oh well...at least my parents are letting me move back in with them for a year so I can build up my savings and not have to worry about living expenses while I pay back loans during that time.</p>

<p>So I started off with an EFC of 18,000 dollars. I appealed because my father lost his job.</p>

<p>My total income is now $43,000 dollars and they brought my EFC to 13,000. I don't understand. Half my income is gone and they bring down my EFC 5,000 dollars. This is extremely painful for me.</p>