<p>White supremacists (Or nationalists) are in NO WAY running the country. They often appear to feel powerless to the so-called "Jew multicultural, anti-racism indoctrination" perpetrated by the so-called "Jew media" they often bring up on Stormfront</a> White Nationalist Community - Discussion Board for Activists . The general theme on that white nationalist forum is that the white race is dying, and they are striving to preserve it. (Nothing but whining and complaining on the forum)</p>
<p>So obviously, they are a minority in society. So stop equating not liking Barack Obama to White Supremacy. </p>
<p>I've only read a sample of these posts and it'd pain me to read the whole thing, but to return to the OP, you can wear whatever you want-- obviously it's a free country, we have free speech, and you should know that simply wearing a t-shirt wouldn't make you vulnerable to "criminal charges." </p>
<p>As with wearing anything anywhere, you'll "catch flack" if you wear anything that's patently offensive, ignorant, and in bad taste. Frankly, your continued reference to Obama's middle name (as if it were relevant, except to incite the feeble-minded), and your continued use of childish, provocative, and pointless language (both the initial framing of the OP, and injection of terms like "Obamaloons"), would cause a lot of people on both sides of the line to consider your participation to be an embarrassing, unconstructive, and unwelcome part of <em>any</em> campus's political discourse. </p>
<p>So wear whatever you like. You will be judged.</p>
<p>I'll just address a couple political things. The whole Muslim women things was not at all Obama's choice. He has had people with headscares in shots with him before. What happened is a couple organizers at the event assumed it would be bad publicity...to which Obama later apoligized for. It was a couple completely random people's decision.</p>
<p>Obama has always been saying we need to get out of Iraq...and adjusting his timetable means he's actually thinking about it and finding out the facts instead of just saying "Lets get out!". How is that bad?...</p>
<p>I can't believe these authors and articles ur quoting. They are extremely biased and partisan or even bigoted.</p>
<p>I assume it is because you are a bigot trying to spread fear amongst the weak minded and jingoistic. If you can prove otherwise, I am happy to reconsider.</p>
<p>Hussein is one of the most common names in the world, not associated with any religion but only with Arabic.</p>
<p>if obama does not like people calling him by his middle name...a middle name which will be signed into the history books if he is elected...then he should get rid of it...just like he got rid of wright and that church of his...</p>
<p>If you can list - without researching it - John McCain's middle name, as well as Bill Clinton's, Jimmy Carter's, Ronald Reagan's, and Richard Nixon's, and cite incidents in which these individuals' middle names were commonly used in the media (i.e. Jefferson Clinton met with the Prime Minister of...), then I will let your flimsy argument stand. </p>
<p>Otherwise, you remain a bigot trying to incite fear where there is no basis for any.</p>
<p>Not a word of sexism when Hillary was called "Her Thighness" "A monster" "A b#$@" or when I heard newscasters say "When men hear her voice...all they hear is 'take out the garbage!'" or when Keith Olbermann said "A Democratic official should take her in a room...and only he come out."</p>
<p>But someone calls Obama by his middle name - suddenly a bigot! </p>
<p>Sexism is as bad as racism. Somehow sexism has become "cool" and racism has become politically incorrect. The fact that no one sees that is the saddest thing of all.</p>
<p>We're not talking about Hillary and Resurgambell never said anything about Hillary. If he said Hillary should have stayed in the kitchen or something like that, I would have said something about that as well.</p>
<p>Well yes, the only real reason people refer to Obama's middle name is to somehow disparage him. The people who refer to him like that are ones that don't like him, for whatever reason (not necessarily because of his middle name though) </p>
<p>I guess it a reference in jest if you are talking to like-minded people who don't like Obama.</p>
<p>Tell me why saying Hussein Obama is any different from saying McBush (McCain) or Hilterly (Hillary). It's not - all 3 are used for the same purpose, to disparage the candidate.</p>
<p>It's just that whole racist mindset has cause people to see any comment toward Obama as racist.</p>
<p>Oddly enough...if Hussein isn't bad (it's his middle name after all) why do so many Obama supporters take offense when it's used?</p>
<p>Well, Soccer Guy, I think there's a fundamental difference between McBush, Hitlery, and Hussein.</p>
<p>The first two are distasteful political slights - one suggesting alignment with the Bush administration, and the latter suggesting extreme totalitarianism. They are used rather tongue in cheek.</p>
<p>The way Hussein is used, however, is intended to suggest that Obama is aligned with an entire culture of people and a religion rooted in violence and hatred against the West and, more specifically, Christianity. It's incorrect, since Hussein is not an Islamic name, but that is the implication.</p>
<p>Anyone who just shrugs their shoulders and says "But it's only his middle name" knows damn well the intention behind using his middle name in the way they do. It's bigotry. </p>
<p>But you are correct that Hillary has faced her share of bigotry herself and it has gone less noticed. I began asking my conservative friends why they hated her so much. While I was hoping for some distaste for her politics (which are pretty centrist), in reality their loathing of her was because she is a powerful woman and they - male and female alike - felt threatened by a woman who would not be submissive.</p>
<p>It's all very sad how primitive we really are.</p>
<p>Applejack, I agree with the second part of your post - many people are threatened by a powerful woman such as Hillary, thus translating into loathing of her.</p>
<p>I do, however, disagree with the first part. Why is a name suggesting that Hillary is for "extreme totalitarianism" any different from a name suggesting that Obama is aligned with that specific culture?</p>
<p>Is Hillary for exteme totalitarianism?
Is Obama really aligned with the Mideast?</p>
<p>The answer is no for both. So tell me, then, why is Hillary's "nickname" any different? Both Hitler and Hussein conjure images of fear, and yet, according to you, Obama's is somehow different. It's much worse to call Obama Hussein than it is to call Hillary Hitler?</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>If you can explain that...I'll accept your arguement.</p>
<p>Oh, Christ. I didn't mean to start a debate over which childish nickname is worse. </p>
<p>I just meant that no one seriously calls Hillary Hitlery. No one believes Hillary wants to exterminate an entire race of people.</p>
<p>People do use Obama's middle name in articles, blogs, and titles to evoke a very genuine fear - not in comparision to one person, but to an entire culture. They want to perpetuate the myth that Obama is a Muslim and all that implies in social conservative America.</p>
<p>There's just a difference - so much so that the media has blocked itself from ever using his middle name because it is so regularly used in such a manner by Obama's detractors. The only people who use "Hitlery" are the likes of Coulter or Rush when they're quasi joking around. </p>
<p>They're both wrong, though. It's just that Hussein actually is Obama's name. Hitlery is not her name.</p>
<p>You're right...they want to perpetuate the myth that Obama is a muslim by using that name..</p>
<p>Just as using Hitlery perpetuates the myth that Hillary Clinton is some sort of power-hungry dictator.</p>
<p>Both are wrong, neither should be considered worse than any other. Right now, the same thing is happening that us Hillary supporters have so long complained about - the double standard.</p>
<p>Even as you admit Hillary has been subject to this, you yourself find a way to explain that Hillary's awful nickname isn't anywhere near as bad as Obama's. Once again, anything against Hillary is somehow justified while any attack on Obama is condemned. They are both bad. Neither should be said. And neither is worse than the other. End of story.</p>
<p>How can you Obama people expect us to run to Obama's aid and vote for him when you can't even stand up for fellow Democrat Hillary Clinton?</p>
<p>Honestly, applejack don't bother trying to explain the social and discriminatory(specifically racist, yes I called it out on this one) implications of the use of Obama's middle name. Either these two and other like them are trying to play dumb or they really are ignorant. I hope that it is the former because they are Cornell students and I would expect more from people from such a highly esteemed institute. </p>
<p>Referencing Obama's Arabic middle name and Muslim background in such a negative light implies that:
(btw I love list as you can see)
1. Obama is Muslim just because his father was
2. That being Muslim is determined by birth, which was also thought of about Jewish-born people and perpetuated and exploited by Nazi Germany. Religion is not the same as race. Being Muslim is only determined by the practice of a religion
3. That the name Hussein is a Muslim name , it is Arabic. Just because one is Arab does not mean they are Muslim and just because one is Muslim does not mean that they are Arab.
4. That Arab people are "bad", that they are enemies to America. To think that would be racist, hands down.
5. That being Muslim is bad.
6. That having a Muslim or Arab president is bad. Also, racist.
7. That the Middle East is bad.
7. Obama is a Christian, if I didn't get that across before.</p>
<p>In Hilary's case, being a dictator is always a bad thing. But being Muslim...to say that it is bad would be insulting and hating a whole group of people, a very big group. That is the difference. By referring to Obama middle name like that is not insulting to him, b/c that is his name, but to a whole group of people. They realize why America is so focused on a name like Hussein.
I am not saying that there were any comments against the above statements before. I just wanted to put out there the blatant racism in America in reference to Obama's middle name. If you are a person who perpetuates it, comically or not, you cannot deny that you are being racist and a bigot.</p>
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<p>What?!?! It's just his middle name. How is using somebody's middle-name racist? I could understand if you said people are trying to belittle him by using his middle name but racism?!?!? I don't get it. People can decide they don't like Obama and also not be racist you know. </p>
<p>What exactly does this have to do with race at all? Last time I checked, Muslims come from all different races. How does this have racial implications at all?</p>
<p>Why are all Obama supporters staunchly denying that he is a Muslim? I know he is a Christian but what is really so bad about being Muslim? It looks to me as though all of you see being Muslim as being bad and thus need to show that Obama is not Muslim.</p>
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<p>Seriously? Referring to a man by his middle name (whatever implications it may have) is even comparable to referring to a woman as a sinister dictator who was responsible for the deaths of over 6 million people? Do you have any idea what Hitler stood for? There is no way you will ever convince me that calling somebody by his middle name is worse than relating somebody to one of the most sinister people to have ever existed in the history of all mankind. That is absurd. Both names are bad but you cannot just dismiss what was said about Hillary like that.</p>