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<p>so Resurgam...forever America has been voting for Presidents because they are white men, Anglo-Saxon, Republican, Democrat, etc. Most of the Democratic Party didn't want to vote for Hilary because she is a woman.
The American people are more about identity politics, and is that a crime? Seeing as to how most people in America do not receive that much citizenship education, even the "smart" people in Ivy League schools like Cornell. </p>

<p>Plus voting for Obama because he is Black does mean a lot. For most Black people, being of that group comes with a political ideology.</p>

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<p>Soccer_guy, I don't understand how you can say that Bill Clinton was an amazing leader, that Hillary Clinton would be an amazing leader, and then vote for John McCain. It just doesn't make sense. Do you like George Bush? Is he, in your opinion, as good of a leader as Bill Clinton? If you answered yes to both of those questions, then I guess I understand your vote for McCain...</p>

<p>I understand that you don't love Obama. I don't either. I resent that Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly by the media and even by some people in the Democratic Party. But I would never vote for John McCain. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.</p>

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<p>obviously people like jesse jackson and rev.wright feel betrayed by obama's elite politics...</p>

<p>i do think there is a difference between middle class african americans and lower class ones...</p>

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<p>Barack Obama is definitely not in touch with many of the African Americans who support him, which explains why Jackson and Wright may feel betrayed.</p>

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<p>Are either of you Black? There is a difference, not all Black people are the same. But this holds true for white people as well. Huckabee may not agree with McCain's politics and McCain does not like Bush, but they all support each other to help the Republican Party get ahead in the campaign. In the same way Jesse Jackson, Rev. Wright and others are doing the same to help Black people move forward.</p>

<p>Jesse Jackson does not like Obama because he has stolen his show. Jackson and Sharpton thought they'd be the next Black President and now this biracial African comes out of nowhere? </p>

<p>The two of them plus Rev Wright also have a problem with Obama being too moderate when it comes to addressing issues that pertain to Black people. But he has to be moderate because if he isn't white people will be scared that he'll give out reparations or something in office.</p>

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<p>Oh please, neither Sharpton nor Jackson think they have a legitimate chance of winning the presidency. They think Obama is out of touch with many black people. Truth is, he is. But that doesn't mean McCain isn't out of touch with many white people. He is too.</p>

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<p>But for both of them, you have to admit, just being white or black has a lot of people relating to them.
Also, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not at all in touch with most Black people. The only great thing about them is that they are instant advocates for Black people everywhere. Whenever someone has no one rooting for them, at least Jackson or Sharpton are there to stand up for them.</p>

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Whenever someone has no one rooting for them, at least Jackson or Sharpton are there to stand up for them.

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<p>I wasn't sure if you were a crackpot race monger until I saw this statement. You actually like these clowns? They think they're the only people qualified to speak about race. Every time a white person (or non-black person) makes a statement about race that isn't to the effect of "black people are so awesome!" they cry racism. You want to know why some white people in this country are resentful, it's because of people like those two.</p>

<p>My favorite instance of these two morons (and the groupthink that often occurs in black America) is their support of the Jena Six. I admit that the possible punishments for these individuals was probably too much, even though several of them had records. But the supporters acted like they had committed no crime, apparently a gang beating isn't a crime. They brought so many people down there to petition for their release, after beating a guy mercilessly! (BTW: I don't consider the white people involved to be innocent. IN fact, their behavior was equally disgusting.)</p>

<p>And don't even get my started on OJ Simpson. That scenario explains much.</p>

<p>God get off the fricking race issue! I do admit that it will be a turning point in history if Obama is elected and it would be pretty cool IMO. However, to think that you both share so much because of HALF of his heritage is laughable and shallow. People are individuals, not members of arbitrarily defined collectives. Furthermore, to vote for someone (or not to vote for someone) because of his skin color, is irresponsible. Let me guess too: You're going to live or do live in Ujjumma. Yea for segregation!</p>

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<p>First, Cayuga, a quote from a Democrat friend of mine: "It would be hard to live under a McCain administration - but impossible to live under an Obama administration."</p>

<p>Second, someone was trying to dispute my claim that Obama isn't raising as much money as he should - and doesn't have that "cash advantage" anymore:</p>

<p>(July 16, 2008): "Obama’s Money Advantage Not Such an Advantage Anymore" (New York Magazine) </p>

<p>Every political campaign loves to play the underdog. But David Plouffe, Barack Obama’s campaign manager, wasn’t kidding when he e-mailed supporters on Monday to say, “The McCain campaign is bragging that they are out-raising and out-spending us.” Team Obama still hasn’t released fund-raising totals for the month of June, when John McCain had his best month, generating nearly $22 million. Insiders on both sides are murmuring about recent surprises, like McCain's outspending Obama in Missouri, and McCain's placing ads on cable TV’s New England Sports Network. And Democrats are starting to realize that they shouldn’t be quite as confident about money as they were just a couple of weeks ago.</p>

<p>Obama raised $287 million during the primary season, an incredible number by any standard; McCain raised about $120 million. But while that gap has made headlines, it’s pretty meaningless now. Obama had $33 million in cash on hand at the end of May, while the Democratic National Committee, which idled through most of the Obama–Hillary Clinton primary fight, had just $3.9 million, for a total of about $37 million. McCain, on the other hand, had $26.7 million on hand at the end of June and the Republican National Committee had $67.8 million, for a total of about $95 million. Whatever Obama collected in June, it’s clear that while he has spent the last month struggling to close the deal with Clinton donors and put out Netroots brushfires, the GOP financial machine is cranking up for McCain.</p>

<p>The Obama campaign believes it will raise something like half a billion dollars from nearly 2 million supporters for the general election: $300 million for Obama himself from here on out, plus $180 million through the DNC, where donors can give up to $28,500 apiece. Obama is confidently plowing $650,000 a day into television ads, nearly four times as much as McCain is spending. And he is closing off alternative sources of money: Obama has rejected public financing and has also discouraged independent groups that might not submit to his message discipline, leading “527” organizations such as the Fund for America and Progressive Media USA to disband. </p>

<p>Obama’s</a> Money Advantage Not Such an Advantage Anymore -- Daily Intel -- New York News Blog -- New York Magazine</p>

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<p>Ur being ridiculous about Jena Six...that kid went out that night even though he was beaten up "mercilessly". The reason it became such a large issue was because it was based on race. The white kids were being racist bastards. If the events hadn't been based on race it wouldn't have been so big with the media. But since it was OBVIOUSLY race based and these kids' lives were ruined b/c they are blacks it became a large issue. It showed that racism was still alive so people pounced on it because racism should have ended. I know law (don't wanna give personal info so won't get into it) and those punishments were absolutely insane and completely based on race whereas little to nothing happened to all of the white kids. (and I'm white so don't act like I'm being racist). It was a ridiculous situation and the kids shouldn't have hit the kid...but the things that led up to it as well as the results of it were ridiculous, blantantly racist, and just plain shameful for America.</p>

<p>I also agree that voting for McCain (b/c u Clinton supporter) is like cutting off ur nose to spite ur face.</p>

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<p>omg why is it such a big deal that i brought the whole hilary-furniture thing up? she just got away with a lot of stuff and i was proving a point, that this woman isnt the most innocent one out there. soccerguy, i dont appreciate your tone and sarcasm. there are DEFINITELY things that you have posted on here that made me think "wow are you kidding me? did he actually say that?" (like with your RECENT and improper use of "retarded" as an adjective) but i dont think its appropriate to deride and call you out on here. get a life and stop being so rude. you think you know everything but you dont. and is your democrat friend an actual politician? DOUBT IT! hmm great source.</p>

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<p>^ Umm...seriously...getting angry just proves I struck a chord.</p>

<p>I wasn't lashing out at you Laurstar, I was saying in general, I always hear people who won't vote for a better candidate because of something stupid and unimportant. Your furniture thing was an EXAMPLE.</p>

<p>So seriously, chill. Your post has been the most hateful thus far.</p>

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<p>soccer_guy472: Please do not quote newspaper as if it has authority. Articles are written subjectively and do not hold much weight (to me). And also, I cannot believe a Cornell student is living in his solipsistic world and harboring such supercilious attitude.</p>

<p>Can we just stop this hold thing and agree that people have different opinions?</p>

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<p>ugh sg i didnt even vote in the primaries so i cant say that i didnt vote for hilary, obama, or any other candidate. i was showing how you cant trust the clintons and how they get away with stuff.</p>

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<p>^ Welcome to American politics. They all get away with stuff. For the record though, Hillary isn't that bad. She spent most of her professional life fighting for children - weather it was through her work at the Children's Defense Fund or volunteering to take on low-key child-related cases as a partner at the Rose Law Firm. She's always been a voice for people that otherwise wouldn't have one, and I have an incredible amount of respect for her. Believe it or not, she's her own (billiant) person, and she would be doing just fine today if she never met Bill. </p>

<p>That said, I really cannot believe that soccer_guy would vote for McCain instead of Obama. I sound like a broken record, but a vote for Obama is like a vote for a not-quite-as-good (but don't get me wrong, still good) Hillary Clinton, and a vote for McCain is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.</p>

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I wasn't sure if you were a crackpot race monger until I saw this statement. You actually like these clowns? They think they're the only people qualified to speak about race. Every time a white person (or non-black person) makes a statement about race that isn't to the effect of "black people are so awesome!" they cry racism.

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<p>hahahahaha. That is what usually pops up in my mind, whenever I think of Jesse Jackson. Recently Obama was speaking about a serious situation concerning many young black men, in which many of them "act" like irresponsible adults and don't take a proper care of their familes. In response to this issue, Jesse Jackson charged that Obama was making fun of black people and he wanted to cut his nuts off. This was on TV news several days ago, btw.</p>

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That said, I really cannot believe that soccer_guy would vote for McCain instead of Obama. I sound like a broken record, but a vote for Obama is like a vote for a not-quite-as-good (but don't get me wrong, still good) Hillary Clinton, and a vote for McCain is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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<p>There are reasons why people say McCain would be the third Bush in the White House.</p>

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<p>"In response to this issue, Jesse Jackson charged that Obama was making fun of black people and he wanted to cut his nuts off. This was on TV news several days ago, btw."</p>

<p>It was actually also revealed Jackson said the 'N' word! (His spokespeople even admitted it after that got out) Freaking crazy!</p>

<p>And if u were gonna bring up something bad the Clintons did when leaving office I'd say the pardons were huge. But I LOVE the Clintons so I know Hillary n Bill woulda been great in the white house (since I already know Bill was an amazing president). Just someone else's turn now.</p>

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<p>I never said I liked Jesse Jackson or Sharpton, I simply said that the one good thing they do is advocate for Black people when they need it. Learn to critically read. Infact my whole post on the both of them was more towards the negative side. And yes I did live in Ujamaa, I guess it's disgusts you that I'm Black and lived in the African-themed dorm.</p>

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<p>I still don't understand how so many people think that McCain would be a third "President Bush"... but sadly it's what the media/CNN would like you to believe, I guess.</p>