<p>so if i basically failed the SAT but did fairly well on the ACT....and i didnt do as well as i hoped on the subject tests.......</p>
<p>well. catch is, cornell will see ALL of my mediocre (for cornell standards- REALLY mediocre) scores. I know they will also see my ACT but even so, if i retake my SAT II and get a much better score, they will still see my other bad ones...</p>
<p>will they hold that against me? i am really worried and, honestly, really crestfallen about my chances now because of THE COLLEGEBOARD</p>
<p>i think your in luck. cornell seems to value gpa and class rank more than sats. in my schools history all accepted to cornell were in the top ten percent with at least A- gpas (very few exception) meanwhile the scores were all over the place.
however i do recommend retaking sat II/ sats. dont be "crestfallen"lol just try ur best ; )</p>
<p>Why don't you share with us your scores so we get a better understanding? You are anonymous over here, so don't worry about it.</p>
<p>I think what Cornell will really look at is whether or not you've made a "high jump". If you retake the exams and do very well on them, they'll see you are ready to do whatever it takes to get in.
Also, to which college are you going to apply?
Don't forget tests are not everything. They'll also look at your overall application. If you have good recommendations, a high GPA, and a couple of nice extracurriculars, and if you retake the tests... I think you'll be ok.</p>
<p>I did poorly on the ACT and well on the SAT, so I just didn't submit my ACT scores on the common app. Yeah, Cornell had my ACT scores, but I don't think they considered them because I didn't actually submit them at the time of my application.</p>
<p>my SAT was CR: 640
W: 610
M: 520 (ahhhhhhhh KILL ME)</p>
<p>my SAT IIs:
Lit: 630
Math IIC: 530 (once more, kill me))</p>
<p>I really would never submit any portion of my SATs but i am applying to hotel so i need a math. </p>
<p>my ACT, without studying and without sleep the night before (long story) and without really caring, was a 27. </p>
<p>So i plan on really really studying for my ACT and my subject test(s) </p>
<p>in terms of hotel ( i know hotel's 25th percentile for ACT is 26 and 75th is 30) I have a great unique opportunity lined up for me in the industry and I am sure of my essays and recommendations etc. </p>
<p>I have no idea. i am quite upset...why wouldnt i be? and yes i know that the majority of CCers are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING students, i am a really good student (thanks to sophomore year NOT quite top 10 percent in all, but for junior year, top 5 percent) and i take the hardest courseload and have a lot of leadership positions and ahhhhh</p>
<p>i really would hate for my standardized tests to be the killer on my app. i do hope that they see if i raise my scores a lot ( i plan on it) then that i am willing to do what needs to be done to get in....im also applying ED.</p>
<p>yeah i constantly say that. idk. it is just really depressing to be completely adamant about EVERY little bit of my college app "resume" and to see it come down to some little link on the collegeboard website. it hurts.</p>
<p>Honestly unless u can bring up ur scores u have no business applying to Cornell with a 1770. Just cause their acceptance rate is the lowest in the ive league doesnt mean its easy to get into. I mean, i dont see people with these #'s asking about dartmouth, penn, brown, columbia etc. yet for some reason everyone thinks cornell accepts kids with low scores. At my school's college fair, for example, there were kids with B averages speaking with the reps. Just gets me annoyed b/c i plan to apply early and for some reason people feel Cornell isnt that good and i almost feel like i have to validate y i want to go there. I mean Cornell is a great school but it seriously needs to work on its image.</p>
<p>Btw u have to submit all SAT scores but ACTs are optional. Sry i dont mean to offend u in particular and by all means take a shot and u might even get in, i dont know, it just bothers me that so many underqualified people aply to Cornell.</p>
<p>Cornell could fill its classrooms with 4.0/2400 kids (take note: straight talk from the CAS dean), but they choose to holistically evaluate the applications they receive, rather than simply using a formula, UC-style, to determine whether or not a student will be accepted. And that's a good thing, because it means that the kids who ultimately matriculate really belong at Cornell.</p>
<p>Some people aren't great at test-taking, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad students. The OP, for example, writes more lucidly than you do; so what if your math score tops his (or hers)? I have a B-average -- does that make me "underqualified?"</p>
<p>If you feel like you have to somehow validate your interest in Cornell, don't bother applying.</p>
<p>that was perhaps one of the harshest things i have heard. who are you to judge me? </p>
<p>for your info, i am NOT applying to cornell because of its reputation as the "easiest ivy league to get into" i am applying because </p>
<p>A) I WANT TO PURSUE HOSPITALITY ADMINISTRATION
B)I WANT A GOOD EDUCATION
C)PERFECT DISTANCE FROM MY HOME
D) PERFECT SIZE TOWN I WANT
E) PERFECT SIZE STUDENT BODY
F) I AM A ROWER AND I WOULD LOVE TO ROW FOR CORNELL</p>
<p>and YEAH thanks for the little tutorial on what SATs i HAVE to submit and what ACTs i have to submit. seriously. just because i messed up on my standardized tests doesn't mean i am an idiot and don'd deserve to go to a certain university! I don't care that cornell is an ivy league school- my heart is in it for all the RIGHT reasons, not for those concerning prestige. </p>
<p>so i am truly sorry if you feel that because some students don't test well on their FIRST try or don't have STRAIGHT A's, they shouldn't be accepted to a university. Honestly. who would want to go to a school with 13,000 4.0s and 2400s?</p>
<p>not me. I am doing my best with the position I am in and I hope you one day learn that one cannot be adequately represented by means of a TRANSCRIPT.</p>
<p>seriously. i have been posting on this cornell forum for about two years. do NOT accuse me or ANYONE of applying to a certain school just for the hell of it.</p>
<p>and juxtaposn- thank you for the support. As you can imagine, I was not happy even without the above posts, so I appreciate your additional comment.</p>
<p>Dande...it seems to me that the ACT is "studyable" (I don't know if that's even a word!) So have faith, and take practice tests. My daughter is applying to Hotel also, and got her ACT score from a 27 (first time, no studying) to a 31 (with 2 weeks prep). She didn't do great on the first SAT she took (1870), and bombed the second one because she was sick and took Tylenol cold nighttime before the test to make her nose stop running. She should have cancelled those scores, but she didn't want to after "spending 4 hours of her life on that stupid test".</p>
<p>I hope the Hotel school will accept the ACT instead of the SAT. (She has already submitted her subject tests, so hopefully no one will have to see her SAT score.)</p>
<p>little things like that mean a lot to me, I will definitely study for my SATs and your daughter sounds a lot like me....i dont enjoy wasting my life on SATs haha</p>
<p>thank you, as small as it was, i appreciate your comment. :)</p>
<p>You're very welcome...and she wants to go to Cornell for all of the same reasons that you do (except the rowing part...she has other Cornell specific sports interests).</p>
<p>She finally realized (after freaking out all year) that she is doing the best that she can. If that's not good enough, so be it. As long as you know that you have done all that you can to your own ability, then that's all that you can ask of yourself.</p>
<p>I think, and hope, that Cornell looks at more than just one set of test scores. And don't forget about the ACT...I think it's easier to "study" for.</p>
<p>what the hell is "HOSPITALITY ADMINISTRATION"?</p>
<p>why would you go to a prestigious college to learn how to run a hotel? I don't mean to offend anyone but I feel like I'm missing something here.</p>