<p>My first year of college i attended Cal State San Marcos, and was academically disqualified for having 1W, 3D's, 3F's.</p>
<p>i then went on to community college where i turned my act around and retook all of the equivilent classes as stated by Assist.org.</p>
<p>i got in contact with the director of undergrad assistance at CSUSM and he informed me that classes taken at a CCC do not apply for course forgiveness, therefore the grades remain and the only way i can get my GPA up is for me to transfer to CSUSM and retake them all.</p>
<p>This doesnt seem right, as i was kicked out for bad grades, so i was unable to retake those classes there, and took the Equivilant classes at a CCC and they dont count?</p>
<p>he said the only thing i could do was to petition the school to get my bad grades turned into "Ws" but would require a significant reason of withdrawl (sickness, family tragedy, etc) and documented evidence.</p>
<p>Im sure this problem has been brought up before... i plan on contacting UCLA admissions tomorrow to see what they recommend.. someone please help!</p>
<p>i did the math and my GPA IF the CCC classes replaced the bad ones at state, would be a 3.72. but if they dont replace i will have a 2.89</p>
<p>The exact same situation I was in, well except I took classes at CSU Fresno. This is how it works, the CSU will not replace your grade, so you’re stuck with those grade at that campus, unless you retake the classes at the CSU (this is possible through their Extended Education program). However, when the UC’s calculate your GPA, they will replace the grades, if the classes are equivalent. Hope that makes sense…</p>
<p>Btw, for reference, I had a 0.6 GPA at Fresno State, 1 C, 1 D, and 3 F’s. And was accepted to UCLA, and that was without retaking one of the F’s. So just keep up the good work!</p>
<p>So UCLA will see that i have retaken the Class and calculate my gpa that way? unofficially?</p>
<p>i guess i dont understand how that works, so because ive taken equivilents for all of my bad grades at a CCC, UCLA will see that and automatically give me my deserved GPA?</p>
<p>what do i put for my GPA on the application form?</p>
<p>thanks so much for the reply. ive been pulling hair all day trying to figure this out!</p>
<p>They don’t ask for a GPA on the Transfer application, they just have you list all the classes you’ve taken and your grades received in each class. And they will calculate your GPA. </p>
<p>Yes, UCLA will in fact look and see if you have retaken the class and if they determine the class at your CCC is equivalent (I was told a good way to see if they are equivalent is by using Assist, which it seems you have done) they will replace the grade. </p>
<p>I asked the counselors at my community colleges the same question about grade replacement and would get different answers, so I contacted all the UC’s I applied to, and they told me what I am telling you now. </p>
<p>Again, I know EXACTLY what you are going through! I would freak out over this stuff too, and sure I will start to freak out about it again when I am applying for Grad school!</p>
<p>It is not transferable to UC? If not, then no it will be not be calculated into your GPA.</p>
<p>But, just because it doesn’t transfer to your CCC, does not mean it will not transfer to the UC’s. </p>
<p>And as for retaking the class, look up the Open University program at your CSU. It is somewhat expensive (it was $240 a unit for me), but you don’t have to be a matriculated student to get into the class. You just have to crash the class the first day, and hope to get in.</p>
<p>Academic renewal at CSU’s is much more difficult than at CCC’s. For example, here are the conditions of Fresno State’s Academic Renewal:</p>
<p>Five years must have elapsed since the most recent work to be disregarded was completed.
It must be evident that the poor level of work represented by the term(s) under consideration is not representative (see No. 3) of the student’s usual academic performance and was due to extenuating circumstances.
The student must have completed the following in residence at California State University, Fresno since the most recent work to be disregarded was completed: (a.) 15 semester units with at least a 3.0 GPA or ( b.) 30 semester units with at least a 2.5 GPA or ( c.) 45 semester units with a 2.0 GPA. Work completed at another institution cannot be used to satisfy this request.
It must be evident that it would be necessary for the student to complete one or more additional terms in order to qualify for the baccalaureate degree if the request were not approved, i.e., that the student would have less than a 2.0 grade point average in one or more of the following: (a) Cumulative collegiate coursework (b) All California State University, Fresno coursework (c) Coursework required for the major
This policy may not be used in concert with any other academic forgiveness policy impacting particular academic term(s).</p>
<p>But yes, if it is not transferable it will not be calculated into your GPA</p>
<p>What if the course I took at my csu was not articulated at any schools? The class I took at my CSU was an upper division bio class with a lab. It was an intro to bio course, biology 230. Here you can see there is no class that equals it at my current community college. </p>
<p>All the UCs have some articulation agreement similar to this one where I would need to take two bio classes at my community college to get the same credit as the one intro to bio class I did at my csu. So they probably won’t take this credit, right?
[ASSIST</a> Report: SMCC 09-10 UCLA Articulation Agreement by Major](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST)</p>
<p>UCHOPEFUL1234, I do not know how feasible this is but would it possible to approach UCLA and see if they can treat you as an individual who is truly a changed person. You could explain that when you first went to CSUSM you were not emotionally and academically prepared for the rigors of a four year University and flunked out which you take full responsibility for. Since then you have grown considerably and mastered what it takes to achieve at a high level in college. However, the only way to officially undo that year is retake the same courses at CSUSM where you are not welcome to return because of your previous academic disqualification. Ask that if under these circumstances, even though you can not undo what happened at CSUSM it is no longer really relevent since you are a changed student and your CCC record proves it. So while they have to include the grades from CSUSM in your GPA would it be possible to base their decision on whether to admit you on your CCC grades which represent what kind of work you are doing now.</p>
<p>I believe, and I hope you can convince UCLA, that people deserve a second chance and that the great work you are doing now at the CCC should make that one awful year at the CSU a non-issue.</p>
<p>Socali909 if I was in your situation I would call/email the schools you’re interested in applying to. I would not assume it doesn’t transfer, especially if it is an Intro to Bio class (you said it was upper division, if that’s true then that would be the reason no CC has an equivalent. CC’s can only offer lower division classes). </p>
<p>Lemaitre, I don’t think you were responding to me, as I already have gone through application process, but your advice was good nonetheless. And that is exactly what applicants that have a bad semester/year or whatever, should do!</p>