<p>I want to take the chem/physics test, but I have no idea what to expect...soo....</p>
<p>btw, I'm SEAS</p>
<p>1) There is no math placement test right?
2) I took calc AB/BC, what math level should I take
3) Would looking over AP prep material be good review for the placement tests?
4) Are they easier/harder than the AP?
5) Would freshman orgo be a good idea for me? I'm looking at BME+premed
6) What's the format of the tests? # of questions, topics, sample tests?
7) Any general advice?</p>
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<li>Probably not....there is no reason to pass up two significantly easier grades in gen chem not to mention that second semester orgo would count as a tech elective later on while second semester freshman orgo would not since it isn't 3000 level or higher and you are using it to fulfill your chem requirement</li>
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5. Probably not....there is no reason to pass up two significantly easier grades in gen chem not to mention that second semester orgo would count as a tech elective later on while second semester freshman orgo would not since it isn't 3000 level or higher and you are using it to fulfill your chem requirement
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<p>No. Frosh orgo is 3000 level. And he has to take orgo either way so taking gen chem isn't avoiding anything.</p>
<p>i guess it is 3000 level, but i'm still quite sure it wouldnt count as a tech elective like regular orgo would.</p>
<p>The trick to premed is that you want to get a good GPA cause med schools care about that (sad but true)....so don't pass up on easy classes since getting a good grade in an easy class shows med schools you know the subject while getting a mediocre grade in a harder class doesnt give them as good of a feeling because they don't really know the difference between gchem and intensive chem.</p>
<p>Question about intensive chem. Would I be at a disadvantage for med school admissions, since the requirement seems to be a whole year of gen chem, and intensive is only a semester? Or is that okay? I don't think I'm brave enough to take orgo as a freshman (Yes, I know I'll have to take it anyway.)</p>
<p>Also, I know the chem placement test has been mentioned to death, but what are the language placement tests like? Are they all MC as well?</p>
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Question about intensive chem. Would I be at a disadvantage for med school admissions, since the requirement seems to be a whole year of gen chem, and intensive is only a semester? Or is that okay?
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<p>the answer to your question is: it depends...but not for the reason you provided. The reason you might be at a disadvantage is because you might get a lower grade in intensive chem and intensive chem lab than you would have in two semesters of gchem and gchem lab....and if you aren't aware, med schools are GPA whores.....and no they usually do not look at how tough your class was....but of course if you are good at chem and call pull off something in the A range for intensive chem....by all means go for it and more power to ya.</p>
<p>Ah, thanks Shraf. I feel like I'm in danger in any college class I take, since I'm going to have to adjust to the workload and the difficulty of classes in general. I honestly can't decide between gen chem/lab and intensive chem/lab right now. I want to skip that extra semester of chem, and I did fairly well in a difficult AP Chem class and got a 5 on the test. But I'm sure there will be others who will have had much better preparation. (I mean, I had all of two tests last year, not including the midterm.) I've read and reread Denzera's list of reasons to take intensive chem, and it sounds solid. On the other hand, I can't guarantee that I'd do any better in a gen chem class. </p>
<p>This is getting a little off-topic, but what do you think about the following schedule for first semester:</p>
<p>LitHum
FoS/UW
Calc II
Intensive Chem
French Lit</p>
<p>Assuming that I can place into a French Lit class.</p>
<p>Okay, a couple questions for you, Denzera. How much entry-level physics do you have to know? I took honors physics in high school but don't really remember anything, since I took it as a junior before taking calculus, and I was just glad to forget everything after finishing the class. Are the physics concepts basic enough for me to reteach myself? </p>
<p>Lastly, does the placement test test for your knowledge of the trig, calc, and physics mentioned in the course description? Or is it all chem, through and through?</p>
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I've read and reread Denzera's list of reasons to take intensive chem, and it sounds solid. On the other hand, I can't guarantee that I'd do any better in a gen chem class.
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<p>One important difference between gchem and intensive is that the exams in gchem are all multiple choice while intensive exams are all written answers....not to mention that depending on your prof most of the questions might be straight from the practice exam....literally...as they were in my class first semester. </p>
<p>As for your classes demeter, looks pretty typical of a CC first yr who is planning on being a science major or premed.</p>
<p>for physics, i'd say that if you haven't taken an AP-physics equivalent class in high school, then it's not wimping out to take 1400. If you have, then you really ought to be in 1600. And you can do 1600 without too much trouble if you're smart enough to figure out calc and the concepts on the fly. it'll just be a little more work. 1400 is basically the same stuff as 1600, except less of it, presented slower, with a less cool professor. the difference is far less than the diff between regular and intensive g-chem.</p>
<p>i don't remember much about the placement test. in fact, i don't think i took a single one, you didn't need a test to take 1600, just if you wanted 2800.</p>
<p>from what i've heard (at least for spanish and french) the placement tests are actually a pretty good indicator of what level you should take....more than that tho, i don't know anything about them</p>