<p>I’ve heard a few times that Brown is the “Crappy Ivy”, which besides being kind of an oxymoron, is just a little offensive… Anyone want to comment on why they call it this, or other reactions, etc?</p>
<p>Please remember a few things. First, Ivy is a football conference, so should have nothing to do with college enrollmwnt</p>
<p>However, I hear that Brown is doing well this year, in football, as well as enrollment. Brown could win the football? Do you care about that?</p>
<p>Brown is a great school. If you are too dumb to figure that out, then you are pretty hopeless to me. </p>
<p>No one in the US calls Brown crappy. only a no nothing would do that.</p>
<p>yikes, you forgot to say if you have any indended major</p>
<p>Anyone saying that is likely simply uninformed. It probably stems from our lower ranking in the USNews system.</p>
<p>No, that goes to Cornell.
Here's what I consider to be the ranking system for Ivies.</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Columbia
Penn, Brown
Cornell</p>
<p>Here's what I consider to be the ranking system for Ivies--</p>
<p>They're all top schools.</p>
<p>
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Harvard, Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Columbia
Penn, Brown
Cornell
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</p>
<p>WHAT!!!!
sorry but Dartmouth is not higher than COLUMBIA and CORNELL IS NOT THAT LOW!</p>
<p>I agree with modestmelody
but on the cornell thread it go heated so agree on this go to ANY IVY= become rich$$$$</p>
<p>Brown's reputation as the lowest ranked Ivy may derive from two basic facets of the school:
First, it has the lowest endowment of any of the Ivies & there have been complaints about the facilities--especially with respect to some dorms.
Second, the lack of required courses & easy grading, including unlimited pass/fail options, suggest to some that Brown is a lightweight school academically.
Personnally, I have long believed that Brown University is somewhat overrated academically--although the students are highly intelligent & the school goes after the least competitive Fullbright's in a very successful manner for its students willing to work & travel abroad after graduation.
I am always amazed when I come across students whose top two choices for college are Chicago & Brown--which are, in many respects, polar opposites. I rationalize this as a love of/for learning.</p>
<p>Actually I never understand the Columbia love on these boards. Columbia's acceptance rate edge vs. dartmouth is only 3% now, Dartmouth has better SAT scores, Dartmouth does better in graduate placement ranks, is much much richer, etc. IMO they are completely at the same level; Dartmouth a LACish Ivy with a lot of undergrad resources and Columbia more of a very selective research university.</p>
<p>upenn is higher that that.</p>
<p>harvard
yale
princeton
upenn
dartmouth
columbia / brown
cornell</p>
<p>Oh yea! Lots of kids from other Ivies or who prefer other Ivies are going to come and give their say on who is worth what! Awesome!</p>
<p>Let's get all the stereotypes out now:
Brown is for celebrities and hippie potheads!
Dartmouth is for drunk partiers!
Yale is snobby, WASP-y, and overrated!
Harvard is no good for undergraduates and doesn't give a **** about them and is riding on name reputation of the school and professors who never interact with students!
Princeton is freakishly self-righteous!
Penn is only good because of Wharton!
Cornell is really just a land-grant public school in NYS!
Columbia is a glorified graduate school in a **** neighborhood that only gets good students because of its NYC location which also serves to alienate the students from each other!</p>
<p>I mean, come on, I hope that people have made it beyond the idea that one place can be totally better than another place when we're talking about the 99.9 versus the 99.8 versus the 99.6 versus the 99.7 percentile here.</p>
<p>These are all top schools and have features which are appealing to particular applicants, period.</p>
<p>/end thread.</p>
<p>2nded. This is really ridiculous.</p>
<p>There's no such thing as a "crappy ivy". the same thing has been said about cornell but honestly, what percent of the population could really get into these schools? These comments come from jealous rejections or elitist harvard alums.</p>
<p>...or elitist Yale alums, or elitist Princeton alums, or elitist Columbia alums, or elitist Wharton grads, or....</p>
<p>^^i was going for bevity. Obviously, the other top schools go with with this statement.</p>
<p>With a 98% freshman retention rate, a 14% admissions rate, brilliant students & a creative nurturing curriculum, Brown University is an elite school. Now lets talk about that crappy Porsche Joe bought. Yeah, I think he got the cheap one. Heard he had to finance it too. Ya don't say.... Well, if he puts one of those state school stickers on the back, I'm movin'. Me too.</p>
<p>I think it is sad that people's competitive natures on this site continue to rank these top schools; Perhaps we should be helping others or reading a good book!</p>
<p>Wow I hope nobody misunderstood my OP. I actually applied ED (submitted yesterday :D) and said I was offended by that title, but I just wanted feedback.</p>
<p>I think everyone misunderstood your OP. I don't even know why you would put it that way.</p>
<p>My Brown senior chose it because she felt it was going to give her everything she wanted in an undergrad career. And it has. The only other Ivy she applied to was Yale and she got waitlisted. She immediately declined to be on the waitlist. She was accepted into all other colleges she applied to.</p>
<p>She has mostly taken science and math class, and they are not easy to get an A in, despite what people who do not go to Brown think. There is no easy A's in those areas. Also, like most students there, she over extends, does class, research, advising, and so much more.</p>
<p>People shouldn't rely so much on acceptance rate when taking selectivity into account.
Columbia could just have more 'dumb people' applicants than Dartmouth.
As for Cornell, like it or not, I'm sorry- Cornell is definitely one of the best schools in the nation BUT it is not as good as the other Ivies!!</p>