Credit-Filler Courses

<p>Hist 397 w/ Prof. Bran(n?)- Israeli-Palestinian Conflict was really good. Not the easiest elective, in terms of workload, but you should have no problem getting an A/A-.</p>

<p>I read evo. bio and bio lab as two separate classes, which is why I thought the schedule was brutal.</p>

<p>Wait. Evolutionary bio doesn't have a lab component. Or does it? I thought it was just 2 lectures + 1 discussion per week</p>

<p>I have no idea I'm in ILR, sorry for confusing you guys lol.</p>

<p>Nope, evo bio does not have lab component! lol
2 lecture plus disscussion.</p>

<p>So you guys think that blazinyan300 schedule is suicidal? Should I try to talk my daughter into an easier schedule then? She will be a freshman in CALS (possibly a pre-med, not sure). Her Courses are:
Bio 105 (Intro Bio autotutorial); 4 credits
Chem 207 (General Chemistry); 4 credits
Physics 207 (Fundamentals of Physics); 4 credits
Freshman Writing Seminar; 3 credits
15 credits total.
As a freshman she could have 18 max and I'm afraid she cannot give up the "take the hardest courseload mentality). I talked her out of adding Linear Algebra to this load. But she is thinking about adding a Bio Seminar (1 credit) or a foreign language-literature course (2-3 credits).<br>
What would be a reasonable load? What is too much?
Physics will be really difficult for her (she only took a regular course a year ago). Chem should be OK (took AP this year). Bio sould also be doable (took AP a year ago; could even take credit for Bo 105/106).</p>

<p>even though she took bio ap...why not have her do bio lecture? i hear autotutorial is time consuming..</p>

<p>She thought autotutorial was less time consuming because she didn't have to attend the lectures?</p>

<p>if she took ap bio and got a 5 USE THE CREDITS! I got tricked in not taking the ap exam though i took the course (save money) so i can just take it in cornell since they say cornell bio is so blah blah over high school bio. it was one of teh worst mistake of my life. Not only was AP bio 1083409234x harder than Cornell bio, Bio is a complete waste of time here. EVERYTHING is in the textbook. I slept thru EVERY bio lecture (seriously, i even took a picture on my phone cause once i woke up and all my friends next to me were sleeping, haha). Furthermore, this bypasses a potential weedout class cause the tests only tests your wording skills. </p>

<p>Though chemistry here is somewhat different from AP chem in HS. Since credit only skips 1 term, it's better to repeat.</p>

<p>Yes, she has a 5 on AP Bio exam. When we visited last fall CALS people were strongly suggesting to try one semester of Intro Bio and skip the second if it is too easy. Daughter was thinking that autotutorial was an option where you invest only as much time as needed (very little if you know the stuff). Is it correct?</p>

<p>Citymom: Tell your daughter that freshmen are not allowed to take intro physics. If she replaces physics with some math, it would be a great schedule. </p>

<p>AnbuItachi's: Intro Bio is not as easy as you make it sound. Getting a 5 on AP bio is a joke. Maybe you had a great bio education but you have to realize that students who enter cornell as biology majors come from various educational backgrounds.</p>

<p>That is one intense course-load i think, i have AP credit for bio and math, but im not using it bc med schools dont accept them (Bio i mean)</p>

<p>Biophilic:
Thanks. Taking Calc II or Linear Algebra was an laternative to Physics. But she read that freshmen could not take Physics 101, but Physics 207 was OK. Does it mean 207 is not an introductory physics?</p>

<p>You are welcome Citymom! No she can't take physics 207 either because it is the same as physics 101 but without the use of calculas.</p>

<p>Thats what some people say about the class. My opinion is that doing badly in General Bio doesn't really mean the class is hard. I did terriblely in Bio 102 but I still think the class is easy because it's straight from the book (unless the teacher suddenly teachers about his loons). I'm just saying it's a waste of a class because it's just memorizing the book, there's seriously isn't anything hard to understand. On tests they asked questions like what age was darwin when he wrote his origin book and stuff like that. I agree different people has different opinions but everyone i know who took bio with me thought that they should have used the credits. (Bio lab is a different story though, you learn plenty of concepts and the class is not easy)</p>

<p>Oh and I didn't have a great bio education =), I slept through AP Bio too cause I decided not to take the exam and it was 8 40 in the morning. Good thing a big guy sat infront of me in AP Bio. Saved me.</p>

<p>I guess it depends on the professor who teaches the class because during my year, there was hardly any memorization for Bio 101. Professor Owens stressed the importance of coneptual learning as opposed to just memorization. Even though i got As on both semester of intro bio lab/lecture, i think intro bio was the second hardest classes i have taken at Cornell. (After genetics)</p>

<p>That doesn't seem killer?</p>

<p>That's basically a first semester engineering courseload.
Except substitute calculus for physics</p>

<p>Bio101 is taught by Cole Gilbert and Chem207 is Brian Crane this fall, are they ne good?</p>

<p>oO, is that really this years? I didn't check but I had them both last year, if thats correct I guess they are continueing teaching. Both of them are very good teachers. Crane taught really well, and among the bio teachers i believe Gilbert was not bad, though I only had him and Walcott. Walcott was really boring and didn't teach well i felt.</p>

<p>citymom: your daughter has it wrong. for most people who take 105, if you want to do well, you will have to spend a lot of time on it. i took bio 105, chem 207, hebrew 101, and a writing seminar, and i would say that bio 105 took up about 55% of my time, chem took up 35%, and the other 2 took up the rest. 105 is challenging and rewarding, but believe me - and although i do not know your daughter, it will most likely take more work than she thinks to do well.</p>

<p>i don't think freshmen can take physics - replace it with either a math course or language requirement. personally i'd go with language since that's where i think, especially if you are a bio major/pre-med really begin to branch out and do something you've never done before. i always looked forward to my language course - it was 5 days a week, but not too hard at all, and just a great course.</p>

<p>crane taught the 2nd half of 207 last year. personally i prefered loring, who taught the 1st half. crane seemed like a nice guy, but he was a pretty awkward lecturer, and had terrible, small handwriting. as a side note, to me 207 is more interesting but you get worse professors, while 208 isn't as cool, but you get better professors (davis demos rock, and terry is the man)</p>

<p>Hahaha, i was on ratemyprof and everyone was dissing his small handwriting and fumes from demos</p>