<p>click on the link for a recent news article</p>
<p>New Haven doesn`t sound like a warm cosy place to be</p>
<p>"Woznyk said the rise in crimes affecting Yale students has kept pace with a general increase in violent crime across New Haven. During the weekend of June 2-3, six shootings and one homicide occurred in the city, he said, suggesting that Yale students are not being singled out for robberies"</p>
<p>Having realized that harvardorbust is in fact not a Harvard troll (since he produced a thread attacking Harvard as dangerous as well) I deleted my post containing information about similar crimes at Harvard.
Instead, I'll leave it at this: Any student who attends an urban campus should expect to encounter crime. If this unsettles you, you would best rule out not just Yale, but also Harvard, MIT, Columbia, UPenn, etc.</p>
<p>I think the OP's title about the "Crime Wave" is a bit overblown. Clery Act rules require the college inform its students. (note in today's headlines about the President of Eastern Michigan Univ who was fired for covering details about a murder/rape in the dorms).</p>
<p>I was in New Haven in more depressed economic times and crime was a concern like any urban setting. However coming from an urban environment already, I understood the risky behaviors to avoid.</p>
<p>One thing I appreciated was that I was connected with the real world vs. being cloistered in an Ivory Tower.</p>
<p>Please, that's nothing. Penn has a roaming band of prepubescent bandits that have been striking fear into the heart of innocent university city denizens everywhere</p>
<p>I have never felt unsafe at Yale. The security force/Yale PD advises that students do not walk alone at night around the campus, but I have disobeyed that suggestion many times and walked back to my college at 2 or 3AM. The streets always have patrolling Yale Security vehicles and there are emergency phones available at all times. I don't think the surge of crime in New Haven should be deterrent to potential applicants - Yale is a safe place to live and study.</p>
<p>Columbia is seriously dangerous. I get mugged every second day and two of my friends have been shot in the last week. Not to mention the continual drug trafficking that occurs on 114th and Amsterdam.</p>
<p>There have been a series of violent crimes though. Whether he is a troll or not, shootings and such have been heating up. </p>
<p>It is the summer though, which is when violence is normally highest.</p>
<p>That darn heat affects people.</p>
<p>I am not a "troll"</p>
<p>My feeling is that a troll is one who distorts, misrepresents, or make up facts to get a reaction from others. I have not done this. As a previous poster noted, I brought to CC readers a similar post at Harvard.</p>
<p>The environment is a factor in choosing a school just as are other factors. Crime can be more or less of a factor at other schools. I am merely bringing facts to the attention of readers.</p>
<p>It is striking that frequently when a poster mentions any point that does sit with another`s perspective, some individuals become upset and often attack. I do not feel I have been attacked, but am making an additional point that I have noticed</p>
<p>haha vesalvay, surely you can't be serious</p>
<p>I mean, I know it's next to Harlem and all, but really...</p>
<p>Dude, we're IN Harlem. I think I hear shooting outside, I gotta go!</p>
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<p>Maybe not, but Yale is a warm and cozy place to be. </p>
<p>Daughter just graduated. In four years, she never came close to having a problem with crime. She ran alone a lot, too, which used to bother me, but it's all about knowing where and when to go.</p>
<p>The overall feeling at the school is one of safety, and the atmosphere is warm and congenial. Events on campus are not common. There are parts of the city that might be riskier for students, but it's easy to just not go there.</p>
<p>New Haven has transformed (thanks to it's partnership with Yale). This is an excellent article.</p>
<p>I'll take downtown New Haven over downtown Bridgeport or Hartford any time. Obviously, there are areas in all of Connecticut's major cities where one shouldn't venture alone, if at all, and particularly at night. But the major downtown areas of New Haven are generally safe at night, including the Yale campus. I've been there many times and have never had a problem.</p>
<p>New Haven has had 7 homicides so far this year, all involving people with a history of drugs or violent crime and mostly very far away from the downtown area. Compare that with, just so far this year, about 20 in Hartford, 40 in Boston, 176 in Baltimore, 200+ in NY City, and 221 so far this year in Philadelphia (as of yesterday, that is), many of which are random, unsolved robberies and killings, some of them right on the college campuses in those cities. Overall, Yale is actually one of the safest Ivies, and downtown New Haven is now a much more vibrant college town than any of the other immediate Ivy surroundings. The only problem with downtown New Haven is that it is starting to become like Harvard Square, i.e., too expensive for students and geared too much towards millionaires. Europeans are flying in to buy million dollar lofts, and dozens of the newer restaurants look like they were shipped over from Ibiza. Of course, there are still tons of student friendly places, but some Yale people and others who live there get a bit worried each time they drop $200 on dinner.</p>
<p>Regarding crime, you shouldn't just expect it if you go to an urban college. You should take security precautions no matter what campus you are on. Actually, often rural campuses attract weirdos from the surrounding farm country looking for college students to prey on, and they unfortunately can find it easier in such places where people have their guard down a bit more. Cornell, Dartmouth, and many other more "rural" or suburban schools have had their share of killings, attacks and rapes too. Furthermore, students commit crimes against each other too, in particular thefts and date rape. Just look at Va Tech if you have any doubts. </p>
<p>And that's even before you consider the dangers of going to a school where you might want to drive more often to get anywhere -- keep it in perspective that car accidents kill literally thousands of college students across the country per year, whereas violent crime kills just a dozen or two. Because of that factor I would say that, for example, a suburban school where students are likely to drive or get in a car once every 3 days to check out a movie, edge of campus frat, shopping mall, ski lodge or faraway grocery place is probably about 10 times more "dangerous" than an urban one where students are likely to drive about once every month. If you actually go and look at the stats on certain suburban campuses where students drive a lot you might find that to be a grave understatement.</p>
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<p>thank you for your excellent and well written posting</p>