<p>Hopefully, “your friend” will handle her alcohol and substances wisely. Often “good girls” use being under the influence as an excuse to loosen her inhibitions and engage in unladylike behaviors. She needs to make sure her gfs will look after her and drag her home before she gets too wild.</p>
<p>OK. I’m pretty sure she won’t do anything stupid - knowing her as much as I did.</p>
<p>why does every one say " “your friend” ?" What’s wrong with caring?</p>
<p>Classic case of exploiting internet forum anonymity to obtain a valuable time vs. reward analysis on a target chick.</p>
<p>Ok there definitely are plenty of scenarios where the once-nice, smart girl who didn’t party/drink/wasn’t promiscuous in high school turns into a crazy over-the-top college girl who sleeps with too many guys and gets trashed every other night. Then there are examples of nice and smart people who still abstain from all of those activities. But for the most part I think people are somewhere in the middle, including me. During high school, I didn’t ever party, smoke, drink, and never really even had any guy interests. College didn’t turn me into a crazy ridiculous person but I no longer have the aversion to certain things that I did before…I am willing to go to parties, take more risks with guys (although I’m still a complete prude), and even have a few drinks. But I am proud to say that I still have not broken any of my previously established morals (of which I have many). </p>
<p>1st semester is the time where most freshmen make the most elementary mistakes…and it is the time where some actions may define the rest of your college career. As long as your friend keeps an open mind but still stays firm in her beliefs (and avoid being too impressionable), she should be fine.</p>
<p>What is a “nice girl”? It’s pretty sexist and close minded to think girls are devalued by alcohol consumption and/or sexual activity. I know, if she has too much sex her vagina will loosen and no man will ever want to marry her at that point. Women just get to this point where they’re too used up.</p>
<p>You should place your worries in your friend being taken advantage of if she drinks or parties, not in her losing her “niceness”. </p>
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<p>What is too many guys? Four, seven, fifteen, or more? What’s the guy quota?</p>
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<p>I’m not sure what was being implied here, but I want to go ahead and throw out that drunk women can’t consent.</p>
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What is a “nice girl”? It’s pretty sexist and close minded to think girls are devalued by alcohol consumption and/or sexual activity.
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Not necessarily. Alcoholic males are definitely not considered attractive. You do have a point regarding sexual activity, but [there’s</a> a good biological reason for it](<a href=“http://denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm]there’s”>http://denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm):
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Consider this question: What percent of our ancestors were women?</p>
<p>It’s not a trick question, and it’s not 50%. True, about half the people who ever lived were women, but that’s not the question. We’re asking about all the people who ever lived who have a descendant living today. Or, put another way, yes, every baby has both a mother and a father, but some of those parents had multiple children.</p>
<p>Recent research using DNA analysis answered this question about two years ago. Today’s human population is descended from twice as many women as men.</p>
<p>I think this difference is the single most underappreciated fact about gender. To get that kind of difference, you had to have something like, throughout the entire history of the human race, maybe 80% of women but only 40% of men reproduced.</p>
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<p>For women throughout history (and prehistory), the odds of reproducing have been pretty good. Later in this talk we will ponder things like, why was it so rare for a hundred women to get together and build a ship and sail off to explore unknown regions, whereas men have fairly regularly done such things? But taking chances like that would be stupid, from the perspective of a biological organism seeking to reproduce. They might drown or be killed by savages or catch a disease. For women, the optimal thing to do is go along with the crowd, be nice, play it safe. The odds are good that men will come along and offer sex and you’ll be able to have babies. All that matters is choosing the best offer. We’re descended from women who played it safe.</p>
<p>For men, the outlook was radically different. If you go along with the crowd and play it safe, the odds are you won’t have children. Most men who ever lived did not have descendants who are alive today. Their lines were dead ends. Hence it was necessary to take chances, try new things, be creative, explore other possibilities. Sailing off into the unknown may be risky, and you might drown or be killed or whatever, but then again if you stay home you won’t reproduce anyway. We’re most descended from the type of men who made the risky voyage and managed to come back rich. In that case he would finally get a good chance to pass on his genes. We’re descended from men who took chances (and were lucky).
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<p>While males can simultaneously father several children (and those that did have any children often did, as a large number of males back in the day died before having any children, so the ones still alive had to pick up the slack), women cannot. That’s why sexual promiscuity is only acceptable among males.</p>
<p>The title of this post reminded me of a story a heard over the weekend. These parents were dropping off their daughter at the University of Minnesota in Duluth. In front of one of the fraternities, all the guys were sitting outside with a big sign that read, “You’ve had your daughter for 18 years. Now give her to us.”</p>
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Did someone take a picture of her parents as they left?</p>
<p>Girls don’t handle alcohol as well… Simple fact. They weigh less so it hits them harder… </p>
<p>yea thats what i meant but seriously from experience, girls should really be careful with drinking if they have don’t normally drink.</p>
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<p>and NEVER leave their drink unattended if they plan on drinking it again.</p>
<p>I have been a pretty good girl in high school but remain the same in college. Not a drinker, don’t like the taste or smell of alcohol.Not promiscuous at all and rarely party just not my scene although i love making fun of my drunk friends.</p>
<p>Why does going out and drinking suddenly turn “nice” girls into “bad” girls? It’s a lifestyle preference… if they can handle it in moderation, there’s not too much harm in it. Does overeating turn “nice” girls into “bad” girls too? Does watching too much television turn “nice” girls into “bad” girls? Again…all lifestyle choices that have a risk if there’s too much of it. </p>
<p>That being said, I rarely go out to parties on the weekends and I never drink. My circle of friends hangs out on campus :). I have other friends that do go out though. </p>
<p>I live according to my personal values and standards - I try not to judge others for having their own standards of what is and what is not acceptable.</p>
<p>uh since i’m starting in the spring i’m probably going to miss out. ■■■.</p>
<p>^ I honestly don’t think you’re gonna be missing out on all that much…</p>
<p>Since when has “nice” be a synonym for not drinking on college?</p>
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<p>stereotyping much? </p>
<p>In my experience, guys that had too much to drink do just as much crazy stuff when they enter college. So really if anything the question should be, how nice people turn out when they enter college.
Just saying. Going Crazy has nothing to do with your sex. Only with the gender-roles ascribed to being guy or girl. </p>
<p>Anyhow, how does being “nice” and “smart” mean no drinking or partying? What has the one to do with the other? Or do you by “nice” mean “innocent”, “good-girl-next-door-attitude”?</p>
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No, not drinking would be 360.</p>
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i think he meant nice as in innocent kinda…like opposite of a party type.</p>