<p>For what it’s worth, Penn is engaged is a serious effort to increase its international visibility:</p>
<p>[Penn:</a> Compact: Engaging Globally](<a href=“http://www.upenn.edu/compact/globally.html]Penn:”>http://www.upenn.edu/compact/globally.html)</p>
<p>For example, note that Penn has “the largest international contingent of students in the Ivy League.”</p>
<p>I think penn is the WashU of the Ivy league. </p>
<p>“were ranked higher”
“no were ranked higher”
blah blah blah. I don’t think this really matters. I think all of you have a huge insecurity problem. No one is going to rip your penn degree off the wall and spit on it.</p>
<p>It would help the cause if the blinking banner ads on the Penn thread at collegeconfidential were not Penn State ads…</p>
<p>Tboonepickens, is Cornell even in the ivy league? Last I heard they ACTUALLY WERE a state school.</p>
<p>Go back to your own forum you loser.</p>
<p>^LMAO now now…be nice :)</p>
<p>i go to wharton university from now on</p>
<p>Honestly, I wouldn’t pick on the Cornell kids. They know that they’re in the wrong, which is why they try so hard. I wouldn’t worry about it.</p>
<p>This is an interesting discussion. I think one way to bring up Penn’s prestige is to step up an aggressive recruitment of the brightest kids out there, I mean the truly bright- math, physics, chemisty and programming winners of national and international contests. Most of the ivy league is full of reasonably smart, hard working people who will never push the boundaries of anything in research. In the libraries at every ivy you’ll see most people reading for classes in anthro, poli sci, history, undergrad econ- stuff that’s fairly trivial… </p>
<p>The top math students almost invariably choose Harvard, MIT and Caltech. Stanford is less popular and Princeton is kind of an afterthought. Yale, Columbia, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth & Penn never enter the decision making process. </p>
<p>Interestingly, Duke has made a concerted effort to attract gifted math students, especially from overseas and the university has had tremendous success in the Putnam exam (top 5 individual and team finishes in recent years). Until other ivies can challenge Harvard and MIT to attract the truly best & brightest, they won’t be mentioned in quite the same breath.</p>
<p>dunno, i’m goin to penn and i’m no mathslacker either. how many others reading this are in, or going to be in something quantitative and think you’re on the b-team? or do you think the school is too easy for the likes of us, so add more horsepower to the faculty?</p>
<p>First off, Penn isn’t highly regarded within the Ivy League anyways. Most students at other Ivies think of Penn as a pre-professional, anti-intellectual, gunner school (and a “foriegner” school to boot). At least this is the impression I get from talking to friends from Dartmouth, Brown and Harvard. It lacks the old Ivy traditionalist feel of Yale, Princeton, Brown and Dartmouth. Even Columbia, the most urban of the Ivies, gets more respect in this regard. </p>
<p>It will take time but Penn is rising.</p>
<p>That PENNSYLVANIA in the name basically kills it. Even in my thirties after finishing doctorate in the number one grad school in basic sciences I thought Ivy league includes State universities (because of the inclusion of UPenn). Only recently I found it is private. I moved to the states in early 1980s for the phd. But how stupid am I? I bet even a lot of US born people would have the same problem. They really need to change the name to something else. Maybe University of Penn, Franklin University, yet better Benjamin Franklin University (reminds me of Simon Frazer University of Canada), or some sticky name. I really don’t like this name: University of PENNSYLVANIA. Is Univ. of Calfornia a private school? How about University of Wisconsin? Is University of Florida a private school? How about University of PENNSYLVANIA? University of Michigan? You get the picture? Having the name of a State in the College name basically kills it.</p>
<p>Who cares what the prestige is or the rep is? Recruiters know its a phenomenal school and I’ll probably get the same job as a Harvard or Yale undergrad. </p>
<p>In fact, its better that “common” people don’t know it. I know many people who went to Yale and Harvard and when they are talking to “common” people, they say they went to college in connecticut or boston.</p>
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<p>no, it wont take time dude, Penn’s admission rate already rose this year.</p>
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<p>^Complete BS.</p>
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<p>And yet, Muerte, you do pick on Cornell kids - constantly. You ■■■■■ Cornell’s threads like a jackal scrounging for any scrap to devour so you can overcome your fragile need to define a distinction between two stellar schools’ reputations because you have so much of your own sense of self worth vested in said distinction. </p>
<p>You should know that you demonstrate a complete lack of class through your behavior on these threads and give a horrible perception of your new school.</p>
<p>This is absolutely pathetic. I am ashamed to even be a part of the Ivy league aka the pretentious league.</p>
<p>^^No you’re not. You should just be ashamed at Muerte.</p>
<p>Ah it’s natural when you have people from Cornell like EATYOURCEREAL ■■■■■■■■ the Penn forum</p>
<p>^ for the record. muerte started it</p>
<p>Cornell is worse overall than Penn and about the only people who will deny that are rabid Cornelians.</p>