<p>so today i called the JHU office to ask if they would consider jan sat scores...
the lady said: "oh we have your scores on file. this means we have<strong><em>silence</em></strong>will look at them"</p>
<p>is this just a slip or did hopkins already finish making decisions or am i just being a paranoid little s**t.</p>
<p>Given there’re only little more than 3 wks to notification (assume last wk of Mar), I share your feeling that most decisions are already made, with only some left for debates. Becos of the pressing time in the office, I also speculate that our apps are evaluated as they come in even with incomplete info, and unless the later info worth a change of the first evaluation/read, our files are pretty much done at that point. Having said that, pls don’t take my words becos I’m only an applicant. I can also assure that u’re not the only one that is paranoid!</p>
<p>I’m sure many of the decisions have already been made. But why would it matter? They still won’t tell you until the end of March, so just try to clear you mind of it until then. =)</p>
<p>Every year at this time a post like this appears … and I roll my eyes.</p>
<p>–NO DECISIONS ARE FINAL. We have not yet begun the Committee reviews hence any decision on a file is a tentative decision and there is a strong chance that decision will change. Decisions are not finalized until the Committee review process, and most decisions are not finalized until the last few days before we mail decisions. </p>
<p>–Applications are not reviewed if they are incomplete at this time. We have contacted those students with incomplete files, and they are given a reasonable amount of time to respond. There is no need for the admissions team to review incomplete files when there enough complete files to review. </p>
<p>–The staff that answers our phones do not have access to pending decisions. You are being paranoid. Even if a staff member answers a phone and accesses a student record and sees a decision, we all know that any decision right now is tentative and subject to change.</p>
<p>It’d be intriguing to know how the adcom works to decide on most of the 17000 RD apps (say 10000) in the last few days…</p>
<p>It is called the Committee Process, we have approximately three weeks to complete it, and it is a confidential process.</p>
<p>Here is an article in the Hopkins newsletter about this year’s crop of applicants…good info …has quotes from the dean of admissions, etc…[Hopkins</a> sees rise in applicants - News & Features](<a href=“http://media.www.jhunewsletter.com/media/storage/paper932/news/2010/02/25/NewsFeatures/Hopkins.Sees.Rise.In.Applicants-3880606.shtml]Hopkins”>http://media.www.jhunewsletter.com/media/storage/paper932/news/2010/02/25/NewsFeatures/Hopkins.Sees.Rise.In.Applicants-3880606.shtml)</p>
<p>AdmissionsDaniel, what do you think ?</p>
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<p>It’s a JHU News-Letter article … nothing really to say about that.</p>
<p>Thanks for all your input, especially when it’s such a busy time for you!</p>
<p>Do you think the acceptance rate will dip below the 20 % mark? INteresting, I think that JHU’s numbers ( and they’re only numbers ) resemble U Chicago in terms of yield, and both increased their applicant pools to about 19 K this year too.</p>
<p>The acceptance rate will drop, and that is all I am going to say. Such speculation does not benefit anyone at this time. I respect that this is a tense time for all the applicants and such discussions are just not healthy. </p>
<p>The dissection of admissions data can (and unfortunately will) happen afterwards, though once again I will choose not to take part in that process. I do not see applicants as statistics and therefore do not enjoy such discussions or “media” articles that focus on numbers.</p>
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This Enrollment Dean Conley is nut. He throws the towel before the fight.</p>
<p>First, you are citing quotes from a News-Letter article … definitely question the source.</p>
<p>Second, Dean Conley is far from a nut. He is one of the wisest Admissions and Enrollment Deans in the country.</p>
<p>Third, I believe the quote was probably something like “if people are admitted to both Hopkins and Stanford,**many will choose **to go to Stanford.” What Dean Conley is stating here is no big surprise and is backed by histroical data. We do “lose” many students to schools like Stanford or Princeton. It does not mean we lose every student to such schools, but to ignore such data would be ridiculous. Our applicant pool is filled with amazing students who will be admitted to amazing schools, and shockingly not every one of our admits will have Hopkins ranked as their 1st choice school.</p>
<p>Seems I cautioned about this phenomenon on the ED deferred thread. When an applicant pool has the quality to go anywhere they have the luxury of applying RD. I’m still hoping the boy is accepted to Hopkins but with other colleges throwing accepted and scholarships at him the world became a great deal more curious. ED deferred is the girl that says we can still be friends. She is probably never going to mother your children, and if so, you were not her first choice so move on.</p>
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But for JHU admission/enrollment staff to broadcast it to the world is unwise, to put it mildly.</p>
<p>@Professor101: No it isn’t. Hiding it would be bad reportage, a obfuscation of an obvious trend that to most people would have seemed intuitive anyway (no offense JHU). </p>
<p>@AdmissionsDaniel: I’m seconding you on the point of unhealthy speculation, although as an applicant myself, I maintain that statistics have a predictive significance for those who’re waiting for their results and would like to increase the predictability of their outcomes even by the slightest amount. In my case, this is less out of anxiety than out of a concern that I’ll have little over half a month (with some colleges releasing as late as mid-April) to decide where I’ll be spending the next four years. Having an idea of the increased/decreased difficulties of admission might bring a tiny bit of clarity to a picture that promises to remain unclear until the frenzy in late-April.</p>
<p>Here is the comments by Proud Alum about Dean Conley’s Stanford comments:
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<p>I think that Conley should appologize to the alum and students if the quote in the article is true.</p>
<p>Thanks AdmissionsDaniel for saying that you don’t view applicants as a statistic. That made me feel like you take your job to heart and that all the work that my child has put into their application is carefully reviewed. Thanks again.</p>
<p>Quote by Admissionsdaniel:</p>
<p>“First, you are citing quotes from a News-Letter article … definitely question the source.”</p>
<p>AdmissionsDaniel, I have confirmation that the Conley quote is valid as printed. I feel that your comments about the reliability of Newsletter are unfair, and unfounded ,and that I am appalled that you would denigrate the university’s ONLY student-run newspaper. This article was responsibly written and checked by the News and Features editor of the Newsletter, and you may contact them on the web if you have any further doubts as to the validity of the Conley quote. I feel that it is disingenuous of you to claim to represent Johns Hopkins, while at the same time denigrating a valid student effort of that same University. </p>
<p>The quote stands as stated in the article.</p>
<p>I think that President Daniel should have a serious talk with Dean Conley. Is he trying to help JHU recuit students or he tries to help Stanford?</p>