<p>Lincoln Center has all the same core classes as Rose Hill, and I believe we have all of the same majors as Rose Hill, with the addition of Dance and Theatre, which is specific to LC, and of course we do not have any of the CBA classes at RH.
some difference are that RH has more of a variety in the upper level core classes, and some different major classes are offered at each campus. for example, for communications they might only offer television and society at LC, but the broadcast industry at RH. however, since it’s a major credit, you could take either class at either campus no matter what campus you belong to.
one thing is that LC has more of the visual arts and film classes, and RH has more of the math and science classes.</p>
<p>There are CBA course at LC. There aren’t a ton of sections for each course at LC but there are a few that you can take.</p>
<p>Fordham is a little different in that there are 3 campuses. If you are at the Rose Hill campus, does it feel like a school with 3300 undergrads (i.e. comparable in size to Canisius College), or does it feel like a “bigger” school?</p>
<p>Let me make a stab at that. Of course, it is an individual “feeling”. No one person reacts/responds to the same environment in the exactly the same fashion, other than generalities. </p>
<p>Fordham feels “medium” sized to me. Not smallish but not large either. Its a big campus…but not spread out so far you feel lost or overwhelmed or insignificant. Its very common to make friends in all the classes from frosh to seniors…and see them throughout the day and say hello etc. Its 5,000 undergrads at Rose Hill, roughly speaking. Athletic fields, football stadium, basketball arena (oldest in the NCAA by the way…historic building) all on campus. But also new dorms this year that are very attractive (and significantly block the view of the Metro North Railroad tracks and Webster Avenue…potentially a good thing). </p>
<p>You feel comfortable but not in a fishbowl. If you wish to venture out, the gates are right there: whether its Fordham Road leading to Arthur Ave eats, or its out the main gates to the Botanical Gardens and Zoo across the street. The Metro North stops literally at Fordham Road, across from that gate, so its highly convenient to get into Manhattan: safe, clean and inexpensive if you go off peak hours. (Then again, if you are on an extreme budget, then it wont be cheap.) </p>
<p>I havent been to Canisius so I can’t compare campuses. Rose Hill is beautiful. And need I remind everyone that ABC Good Morning America showed up a year ago last March with U2 and played a free concert on Eddies Parade/Keating Hall steps?</p>
<p>In the end, you need to go visit for yourself and see what feels right. I don’t know the numbers, but to my S (and me) Fordham felt like a mid-size school. We did not look at Canasius, but we did visit Stonehill in MA. My son felt that Stonehill was too small for him but he was very comfortable at Fordham. In addition to the students living on campus, Fordham also has a number of commuters which add to the student body of the school. Good luck in your search.</p>
<p>DS has a bicycle and likes to ride alot. He rides everywhere. Is the area around RH campus friendly to bikers? Could he ride to Manhattan? Is there a large risk of having his bike stolen?</p>
<p>“No one will get on campus without an ID”</p>
<p>That is not true. They do not check IDs at the main gate.</p>
<p>Maybe now they will…if someone is reading here.</p>
<p>Ghostbuster, there has been some discussion of substance use/abuse here, and I have a ques as a Mom abt Fordham.</p>
<p>My daughter visited this summer & loved it, and the guide mentioned Queens is a substance free dorm.</p>
<p>This is an issue for us because of asthma & allergies. She is not a prude but she cannot walk down the hall and get a noseful of someone else’s mj or cigarette smoke, or have it drifting into her room. Substance free dorms are a health issue in this family, not a lifestyle choice. </p>
<p>So, does Fordham really make sure that “smoke free” floors, or dorms, are? Thanks for the info!</p>
<p>(To be honest, given the fire hazards in addition to the breathing & allergy issues for many students, I do not understasnd why all colleges do not make all dorms smoke free, period)</p>
<p>I think that all dorms are smoke-free inside but you should contact ResLife at (718) 817-3080 to confirm if this is the case. The wellness dorms in Queens (for freshmen) and in a wing of O’Hare (for soph. and juniors) are for students who choose not to drink, smoke, use any illegal drugs etc. so the commitment goes beyond not smoking. From what my S says (he lived in Queens and O’Hare wellness) not every student who choses these dorms fully lives by the wellness policies, but most do.</p>
<p>JRZ: </p>
<p>I appreciate that question and validate your concerns, as we have similar issues with our D1 at Fordham. As mentioned several times over on this thread and others for Fordham on CC, the substance free wellness program is a good program, but sadly there are kids who sign up for it who abuse it. Its 99% a drinking problem with some also abusing drugs. (Its a problem at every school around the nation, actually). Fordham is working diligently to support the wellness programs and that includes Queens, Tierney (I believe) and some floors on OHare for upperclassmen. I think all buildings are non smoking as that is a city wide statute. If anyone smokes cigarettes they must do so outside. I see very few kids smoking cigarettes at Fordham. So in short, your concerns are valid and I share them. Asthma is always a concern. And yes, dust mites and molds and all sorts of environmental elements can cause asthmatics problems. It happens in old buildings, new buildings and in between buildings. The best action is preventative medicine, as you suggested in another thread about bed bugs off campus. Bring the bedding and sprays that suit your daughter. Make sure she keeps the room clean at all times. Queens has windows that open which may be both a benefit/boon and a problem, depending on smog. Urban campuses all have that issue. Overall, I think asthmatics do fine at Rose Hill, provided they bring inhalers, keep rooms clean and avoid problem areas/people. Is Queens the answer for her? Maybe. My D1 did relatively fine. Her health issues related to lack of sleep, flu viruses etc. Not generally any specific smoke issues. </p>
<p>I am a strong proponent of wellness programs. While I know kids away from home will be kids…and do stupid things…I also think a proactive program is helpful. Binge drinking is dangerous and obnoxious. Any illicit drug usage is illegal and dangerous and can harm a student’s professional and academic standing. I have a zero tolerance for any illicit drug usage. Period. </p>
<p>I am just a parent and no more, no less. Not an employee or official of the university. I love Fordham deeply and strive to help people who seek to attend there. </p>
<p>I am delighted your daughter liked Fordham. If she likes it a lot then apply EA by November 1 and express that position directly to admissions in the application. </p>
<p>Fordham isn’t perfect. No school is. We have our own warts and problems. But we take great pride in our heritage as well as the advances/improvements we have made the last 10 years or so, including raising over 300 million in a capital campaign and raising the admissions standards significantly. Its a highly selective school. I criticize Fordham where I feel it needs to change, in the hopes that someday they will make those changes. But I defend Fordham from unwarranted attacks as well. </p>
<p>Our tenure at Fordham is coming to a close this year. I am glad to see others picking up the ball and answering questions for people here on CC. </p>
<p>Good luck to all.</p>
<p>To any Fordham experts here: DS has looked at a lot of schools now (“too many” is his verdict), but Fordham is too far for us to make a trip before acceptance/scholarship offers. His response is often “meh” when seeing a school, which he admits is vague and dissatisfying, but finds it hard to come up with any real feedback on why he doesn’t like some place. The other day he did suggest that he doesn’t like any place that feels “grubby”. (BC felt grubby, apparently.) </p>
<p>What about Fordham? On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being pristine and new (or newly renovated) and 1 being “omg, bring cleaning solutions” how would you rate the campus? Old is fine, apparently, as long as it feels cool as opposed to grubby.</p>
<p>My S is a junior at Fordham. The RH campus is absolutely beautiful, a traditional Gothic campus. Movies coming up shortly including Wall Street 2 and the Adjustment Bureau had pieces filmed on campus. When my S took his grandparents to visit the school, they were shocked to see the lovely campus and commented more than once on how clean/pristine it was. There is a new dorm that opened this year for upperclassmen and the school is rennovating an existing building for the Business School so upgrades are taking place. However, to be honest, from what I’ve seen a couple of of the buildings could use some freshening up inside.<br>
You can look at the campus here: [Rose</a> Hill Interactive Map](<a href=“http://www.fordham.edu/discover_fordham/virtual_tours__video/rose_hill_interactiv_48686.asp#]Rose”>http://www.fordham.edu/discover_fordham/virtual_tours__video/rose_hill_interactiv_48686.asp#)
Since you can’t commit to Fordham ED, there is no reason not to apply and then visit later on. While the campus does play a role in the process, it is also important to see the fit of the school etc. as well. Good luck. I start this process all again soon with my D!!</p>
<p>^^^^ agree. But let me add, that New York is often regarded as “grubby” by people not familiar with large urban communities, and the Belmont section of the Bronx is not pristine. Though the restaurants in Little Italy are great. </p>
<p>“Grubby” is a term which is somewhat subjective. Some kids are looking for something idealic and in my view unreasonable in their expectations. There are very few college campuses that are “brand new”, whether that be the cafeteria, dorms or classroom buildings. You can find campuses with a new dorm or new cafeteria or new classroom, but not the entire campus. On the other hand, I share the view that some campuses do appear disheveled (we saw some on our visits 4 years ago). With old buildings you will have issues. But Fordham’s campus has lots of old buildings, some going back to the mid 1800’s. There are plans for a new student center in the future but it is still not certain when they will start that project. (its in the present capital campaign). Fordham has new dorms for upperclassmen which opened this month. </p>
<p>If you can’t visit now, then don’t worry. Apply non-binding early action, which gives you an advantage of knowing the result by Christmas, and then you will be invited to the new student orientation in the Spring if you are accepted…and that is when the rubber meets the road: comparing the schools who accepted you and making a decision. We made our decision after visiting in April 07. </p>
<p>Fordham wants students who want Fordham. That sounds silly, but its a truism. That means kids who embrace its location, its offerings, and its spirit. If its not for you, fine. Nobody wants someone who is unhappy or made a poor choice for the wrong reasons. (That happens at a lot of schools around the country, sadly). But if you are accepted and if you visit and say, “this is me” then its a great fit and Fordham will welcome you. </p>
<p>Any school is not just pretty buildings and a lush green lawn (though Fordham has both). A school is its people, from the Administration, to professors, to student body, to alumni associations (notably those who help with job opportunities and searches!). Fordham, like any large institution, is not perfect. It has its own problems and quirks. But like a family we smile and try to improve, stick together and be as welcoming to newcomers as we can. After our four years (running) at Fordham, there are some things we would change. There are some people we would change!! LOL. But its been a fabulous experience for D1 and overall highly transforming and rewarding. She has made friends for a lifetime, we hope. The advantages and pluses far outnumber the annoyances and bummers. New York is very special…but its New York…its not Overland Park Kansas, if you catch my drift. (very posh suburb of Kansas City). Either that entices you or it doesn’t. </p>
<p>If you want to ping me by pm, feel free. I will do my best to be forthright and straight up. Tell it like it is. But in the end, every person’s experience at Fordham is not identical, nor their perceptions of the school and its community. I know kids who think Duke is Shangri La. I know people who think “that is not the case.” (that is putting it nicely.) </p>
<p>I do encourage everyone to put their hat in the ring and submit an application and see what happens and then make your final decision in the Spring when you have all your acceptance letters/offers.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Thank you happy and ghostbuster for the responses. I really feel Fordham would be a great choice for DS, and it’s somewhat frustrating that we can’t get there to see it in order to convince HIM of that. (He’s just humoring MOM by applying.) .</p>
<p>In the end, it will probably come down to $, since we are not optimistic on his chances for enough aid :(. If he gets a good offer, we will bite the bullet and fly down for a day, at least.</p>
<p>sylvan8798, I’m wondering if it’s not so much about the look of the campus for your S but more about the overall feeling of being able to see himself there and knowing that this is the right place for him. Perhaps he just hasn’t gotten that “This is it!” feeling yet. I’m wondering if he just hasn’t been able to put into words exactly what he is looking for.</p>
<p>happy1 and ghostbuster have done a good job talking about Rose Hill but I think that being there and feeling it are essential to finding the right place. If you cannot visit before applying but feel that Fordham has many other reasons for your S to apply then do it. Hopefully the finanicals will work out and you will then come for accepted students programs. It’s not essential that you visit prior to that but I’m glad that you would come if it is a school your S is seriously considering. I am reminded of another poster, viirgo, a transfer student who was unable to visit and unhappy with his/her living situation then pretty much disappeared from CC. </p>
<p>I just want to share that my S, who is a freshman Theatre major at LC, found Fordham’s Pope Auditorium mainstage theatre to be unimpressive. It’s a multi purpose room. And the theatre itself is pretty darn important to him given his intended major. He loved the theatres at both BC and NYU. He actually applied to 7 schools and at all, he told me he could see himself there and doing well. But every time he came to Fordham, he said not only could he see that, but he couldn’t see himself anywhere else. Fordham gave him a feeling of “I belong here” in spite of the shortcomings of the theatre. And that is something that you just can’t get from a brochure or a website. And it is absolutley PRICELESS when you pick the school that is the right fit and your S is happy and thriving once there. </p>
<p>Good luck! :)</p>
<p>Thank you sandkmom. DH and I were talking last night about the fact that there is no one single school which seems to have everything we had hoped to find. I had not anticipated that, and find it rather frustrating. In fact the whole process of finding suitable places, applying, and worrying about paying for one of them is rather daunting. 
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<p>As of now, there are only 2 on the list we haven’t seen - Fordham and Xavier, both of which seem like great places, albeit farther away than DS wanted to be (that’s why god made frequent flyer miles).</p>
<p>^^^^</p>
<p>Yes, I am a tireless promoter of Fordham! LOL. I have no shame! In all seriousness, I also want to express a view that its perfectly okay if you visit Fordham and say, “this is NOT me.” What I mean by that is that everyone has their own vision of what they are looking for in a school, be it the campus, the location, the people, the faculty, the programs offered. Or sports. If you find you belong elsewhere, then its perfectly okay, because Fordham doesnt want anyone to be unhappy either. No school is perfect. We want people at Fordham who want Fordham for being Fordham. And who come with a determination to contribute and make it better. If that is not you, that is perfectly okay. Fordham accepted 11,000 people last year…and only has room for 1,700. So we know that 90% of those accepted will go elsewhere for various reasons, some of that is financial, some of that is location, and some of that is they were in love with a different school or higher ranking school (for those who are concerned about such things). We get that.</p>
<p>I don’t want to oversell Fordham or twist anyone’s arm. We just want people to know its a great school with a lot to offer. We hope that Fordham is among the schools that make your final list to consider next April. If you can make a personal visit, that really helps. But if not, do your best to reach out to people and ask around, or even contact a department head by email for more information on the major.</p>
<p>I agre with ghostbuster. I firmly believe, having heard this from oh so many students, that they will know if a school is “right” for them when they see it. It’s just a feeling they have. Fordham was the school that gave my daughter that feeling. Not every school is a good fit for every student. For example, one of my daughter’s good friends is at NYU. My daughter did not care for NYU at all, but her friend loved it there. Both girls are happy where they are now. </p>
<p>When we came for Open House my D’s senior year, one of the speakers, can’t remember if it was Fr. McShane or Fr. Grimes, or maybe it was both, emphasized how strongly they felt about the importance of only enrolling students who truly wanted to be there. They flat out told the potential incoming students not to choose Fordham because their parents wanted them to come, or because their friends encouraged them to come, or if they were following a sibling or a boyfriend or girlfriend (especially the latter!) because that is the wrong reason to come. They said that a student will know if the school is right for them, and they hope that Fordham is that school, but if not, don’t come here because we don’t want you. </p>
<p>I was so impressed by that because all the other schools we checked out only seemed to want to encourage everyone to come, regardless. Fordham was the only school that was honest enough to admit that not every school is right for every student, and that was one reason we knew it was right for our family.</p>
<p>^^^ Amen. If you choose a school for the wrong reason, you will likely end up being unhappy. And that is not good for you, for your family or the school. That being said, there is a fair number of freshmen who go through the “transferitis” syndrome, which sets in immediately after they return to Fordham from Christmas break (and compare grades!), the skies are gray, its cold outside and you are homesick and dreaming of warm fuzzy moments with your family back home. The best medicine for that is a) go on the campus ministry retreat! (it worked for my D1, now a Senior at RH) and b) hunker down and focus on your work, ignore the dorm drama. Spring comes soon enough, the skies turn blue, it warms up, the trees blossom, the birds sing and you develop a sense of accomplishment. If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere! (From Frank Sinatra!) </p>
<p>Do a personal inventory of your likes/dislikes/personality quirks/needs/objectives. And try your very best to examine it objectively, or at least an arm’s length away. In that manner, you can make a more mature decision beyond the initial giddiness. There is a fair amount of self doubt in that process (particularly for non New Yorkers). Once you are committed, just jump in the water and keep paddling! There are plenty of kids at Fordham who will be there to help you transition. They have been there too.</p>
<p>sorry to bring back an old post but i was accepted to Fordham College at Lincoln Center and i have some questions. First about the dorms. What exactly is their layout? I’ve seen it described as “apartment style” but I just wanted to be clear on what that means. Apparently there are certain amenities such as a kitchen with appliances? What about bathrooms? Are they only shared by roommates or more communal?</p>
<p>And I’ve read through the whole thread but forgive me if i missed the answer to these questions.</p>
<p>Also, how do the faculties of each campus stack up? I just want to make sure that LC isn’t just like a “satellite school” for those who couldn’t get accepted to the “flagship.”</p>
<p>And I’ve seen people talk about the social life being limited at the LC campus. Do you feel that class sizes are at least large enough so that I may find people to befriend? I live just far enough away to make returning often impractical and I’m leaving a social life that really sustained me especially through this last year so I understand the importance of making a few close friends and hope I will meet enough people to take the edge off leaving home.</p>
<p>I received a substantial amount of “gift aid” and am unsure as to what it qualifies as. Is this my entire financial package from Fordham? Or is it possible that I may have been awarded some scholarships and just haven’t been notified yet?</p>
<p>Finally, I was wondering if anyone could compare Fordham to UConn as it’s the other school I have been accepted to and is in a similar price range after receiving the “gift aid.”</p>