Current Penn Freshman Taking Questions

<p>@RedPhoenix: Check out this link and read the excerpt from the FAQ below: [Student</a> Health : SHS Insurance Requirements](<a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/shs/inreq.php]Student”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/shs/inreq.php). The system is totally online, so you’ll fill out an online form with info about your current coverage, immunization dates, etc. Then if they need anything else you might have to go to Student Health once you’re at Penn. Telling them that you already have coverage is known as “waiving” the Penn Student Insurance plan.</p>

<p>*How do I enroll or waive the Penn Student Insurance plan?</p>

<pre><code>* Before you submit your selection, be sure to secure a PennKey and Password.

  • If you want to waive PSIP, be sure to have all of the information about your alternative coverage at hand
  • You must submit your selection through the Penn Portal
    o The url for the Penn Portal is Students - PennPortal
    o Under the “Health and Welfare” heading, click on the second link Appointments (417-WELL), immunizations, health insurance, clinical fee and more…"
    o Click on “Student Health Insurance (Enrollment and Waiver)”
    o Follow the directions and be sure to complete the process.
    o Once you submit your selection, you will receive a confirmation e-mail with confirmation number. Be sure to keep confirmation number as this is your proof that you have completed the on-line waiver/enrollment process.
    o If you experience any problems with the on-line process, please contact Student Health Insurance at 215 573-3523 or 3524 (215 746 3535 after July 1, 2008).*
    </code></pre>

<p>In case tenebrousfire hasn’t already answered your question about the budget plan, you’ll get a monthly bill no matter which option you pick. The advantage of the Penn Monthly Budget Plan is that you won’t have to pay the bill in full each month (which you do if you’re not doing the Penn Monthly Budget Plan, unless you want to incur late fees) but instead you’ll pay in smaller increments. Since these bills can often be several hundred dollars because of fees and meal plans, the Budget Plan is definitely attractive if you’re unsure of how much your financial aid will be able to help you when it comes to paying for Penn.</p>

<p>@laserzone5: If you haven’t already, check out this link for the credits you can get for AP tests: [Penn</a> Admissions: Advanced Placement Policy](<a href=“http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/advanced.php]Penn”>http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/advanced.php). You’re right, you won’t get anything for any Govt. tests. If you score a 5 on Chem and Physics you won’t have to take the lecture component of those classes at Penn. You’ll still have to take the 0.5 C.U. lab components, though. This is extremely useful, as the Chem and Physics lecture classes (where the midterms and finals apply) at Penn are tough! Also, check out [Penn</a> Engineering > Undergraduate Student Handbook > Dual Degrees](<a href=“Student Handbook”>Student Handbook) to make sure you know all the implications of pursuing a dual degree while you’re in SEAS. It doesn’t look too bad, but you’ll have to wait until you’ve completed at least 8 C.U. to apply to pursue a dual-degree with Wharton (which is 1 year). So you’ll need to make sure you pick classes for your freshman year that will count towards the dual-degree if that’s really what you want to do. As far as English goes, yes, it can count as an elective towards your dual-degree.</p>

<p>@Claris: I encourage you to check out the career surveys filled out by Penn SEAS grads: [Career</a> Services, University of Pennsylvania](<a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/seas/surveys.html]Career”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/seas/surveys.html). For the class of 2008, Penn received 302 responses to the survey out of the 318 undergrad degrees they awarded (95% response rate). Of those responses, over 97% were offered employment before graduation. I’ll let you check out the link for which companies and which industries gave the offers, but I personally think the job placement here at Penn is great. I feel completely confident that I will be able to find a job after graduation (although I’m also thinking of submatriculating into Penn’s EE Master’s program, but that should only help my chances). Internships are tough to find as a freshman (although I was able to snag an interview with Microsoft, really rare for a freshman, but I was not invited to the second round of interviews), but it gets a lot easier once you’re a sophomore. There are tons of research opportunities for engineers at Penn. Just walk into the labs and start asking people about what they’re doing and offer your help. The SEAS professors at Penn are really cool and are always looking for undergrad research assistants. Anyway, I guess it’s true that less pure engineering companies recruit at Penn, but that doesn’t mean you can’t get a job with those companies. On the other hand, there are tons of Engineering/Business firms that consistently come to Penn (because of Wharton), and often they offer more lucrative jobs than the pure engineering employers.</p>

<p>@hcvops: Check out [Dual</a> Degree](<a href=“http://www.college.upenn.edu/degree/dual.php]Dual”>http://www.college.upenn.edu/degree/dual.php) for most of the answer to your question. Check out [Policies</a> Governing Dual Degree](<a href=“http://www.college.upenn.edu/degree/dual_policies.php]Policies”>http://www.college.upenn.edu/degree/dual_policies.php) for the rest. It depends on what dual-degree you’re going for (what other school: SEAS, Nursing, or Wharton). You’ll apply after your freshman year, and the requirements for each school are at the second link I gave you. You’ll apply by speaking with your advisor and getting the necessary application from them.</p>

<p>@Gameaholic: Ahh, I was wondering when this question would be asked. :wink: I’ll try to answer this carefully as to not offend anyone: I would rate the average Penn girl, in terms of attractiveness, a 7. I personally believe the girls at Penn are very attractive. That being said, it depends on where you look. The more wealthy frats and secret societies attract more beautiful girls than say, the library. But that doesn’t mean you won’t find girls on either end of the “rating scale” at either location. I noticed on Chen’s thread you also asked about the dating scene, so I’ll briefly mention that as well. When I was browsing CC before I came to Penn, I found a thread about this topic and the person answering the question said dating at Penn is either “random hook-ups” or “serious dating/pre-marriage”. After almost a year at Penn, I would say that is true for the most part. However, I have several friends who are “casually” dating. They don’t know if their relationship will result in marriage, but their relationships are definitely more serious than a “random hook-up.” Also, I just want to add that I think that most relationships spark at the semester switch. I don’t have any data to support this, but it seemed like by the start of second semester everyone I knew was dating.</p>

<p>Hey Kevin: Thanks so much for answering questions. I’m deciding on housing and I’m looking at the following criteria:
-Spacious singles (preferably with sinks)
-AC
-Dining Hall within the house
-Computer lab (do you have to pay to print?)
-Proximity to Locust walk</p>

<p>Please advise.</p>

<p>Also, is the Spanish Dep’t located in a specific building?</p>

<p>Thank you sooooooooooo much!!!</p>

<p>Also, regarding financial aid: shouldn’t there be no loans if your family is making under $60,000? This article from 2007 says so: [A</a> lack of loans, all to increase affordability - News](<a href=“http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2007/03/26/News/A.Lack.Of.Loans.All.To.Increase.Affordability-2791360.shtml?reffeature=htmlemailedition]A”>http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2007/03/26/News/A.Lack.Of.Loans.All.To.Increase.Affordability-2791360.shtml?reffeature=htmlemailedition)</p>

<p>Does anyone have a good package given the below 60k bar?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>@SusieBra</p>

<p>-Only King’s Court and Hill have dining halls within the college house. King’s Court’s dining hall is closed on weekends though. I don’t think either have AC.
-Stouffer is supposed to have some of the largest rooms, and they have a number of singles.
-Pretty sure all of the college houses have computer labs, and yes you do have to pay to print. There are places where you can get free printing on campus (e.g. LGBT Center, and no you don’t have to identify as L/G/B/T to go in, or Weiss Tech. Engineers also get free printing in the engineering labs)
-King’s Court (and Hill kind of) is the only house not directly on Locust Walk. King’s Court is just 1 block north.</p>

<p>My guess is the Spanish Department is with the other romantic languages in Williams Hall.</p>

<p>Stouffer/Stouffer’s rooms are TINY. (the one i saw on the penn preview tour was really small)
Stouffer/Mayer Hall has the big rooms.
they don’t have dining halls but their proximity to wawa (open 24 hours a day!) and the food carts is almost as if there is a dining hall within the building.</p>

<p>KC/EH has really spacious rooms but freshmen aren’t allowed to have singles in KC/EH.</p>

<p>@SusieBra: Based on trying to fulfill all of your criteria, I would recommend either the Quad or Stouffer Hall. </p>

<p>The Quad has…reasonably sized singles (it’s going to be tough to find a spacious single as a freshman). It’s also got AC. There isn’t a full-size dining hall in the Quad, but you’ll have McClelland Hall, which serves as both a convenient store as well as a breakfast and lunch dining hall. For one meal swipe you can get 5 items (drink, sandwich, chips, granola bar, rice krispie treat, etc.). You can also make purchases with dining dollars. The Quad is only like one block away from Locust Walk.</p>

<p>Stouffer Hall has reasonably-sized singles and AC as well. There’s no dining hall in the house, but like I said in an earlier post, everyone is constantly baking and offering free food, so it’s hard to go hungry. Stouffer Hall is also right next to the Quad, so you could visit McClelland to get some food. And because it’s right next to the Quad, it too is only a block away from Locust.</p>

<p>All of the College Houses have computer labs. It does cost money to print, but like CDN_dancer said, there are places on campus where you can print for free.</p>

<p>Like CDN_dancer said, the Spanish department is part of the Department of Romance Languages, which is located in Williams Hall.</p>

<p>That article is correct in saying that if your family makes under $60,000 you will have no loans…for your determined financial need. What that means is that Penn calculates how much they think you should have to pay towards your college tuition (this might be several thousands of dollars depending on your financial situation). They then subtract that amount from the “total cost of Penn” (which includes tuition, room & board, transportation, food, clothing, books, etc.). What’s left over is your “determined financial need,” and THAT is what Penn gives you in a grant (without loans). However, you’re still stuck paying the amount Penn thinks you should pay towards your education. That amount is known as the Estimated Family Contribution, and it may or may not be divided up into Parent’s Contribution and Student’s contribution. Many low-income students pay this amount by taking out student loans. It’s pretty much the only way to pay them if you don’t have the money in hand or have scholarships. So Penn kind of tricks you when they say “no loans.” No loans doesn’t mean free, it just means that the financial aid Penn gives you won’t include loans. Believe me, it is very difficult to go to Penn and not pay anything. They’ll expect you to pay something.</p>

<p>@CrystalPineapple: I wouldn’t say Stouffer’s rooms are tiny with a capital “T”…or well…all-caps even. Compared to the singles available to freshman in other college houses, I believe Stouffer’s singles are very spacious and nice considering the other amenities you get along with them. I agree with the rest of your post, though. Late-night Wawa runs occur frequently among myself and my friends. :)</p>

<p>hello!Among Fisher,Riepe and Ware which one has the biggest rooms and is the quietest? And which one is better, a double or a triple in the Quad? Is the community in the high rises really non existent? What are the chances of getting into Harrison or Harnwell in my second year? would it be a lot harder to get in if i don’t stay there in during my freshman year?</p>

<p>That stinks about the financial aid. I might wind up just not going here then.</p>

<p>But, no one mentioned anything about Gregory House and maybe that has all the answers. Does it have AC and a dining hall? Or do you know if the dining hall is close to Gregory House?</p>

<p>I’m afraid of the quad because I read about the mice in an earlier post.</p>

<p>gregory has a/c, but no dining hall - closest is a block away at 1920s commons</p>

<p>Thanks. Do they have big singles? Also, how’s the 1920s commons? Do you have to go at very specific times or you miss your chance or is it open all the time?</p>

<p>It’s ridiculous that high rises don’t have dining halls. They should since you have to go through the elevator process and all.</p>

<p>wait, tenebrousfire, I visited gregory at Penn Previews and someone in there said they don’t have AC…?</p>

<p>And I asked this in a different thread but…
do people who live in Harrison wish they had lived somewhere else instead? bc I really want to live there but I don’t want to miss out on anything you’d get in the quad.</p>

<p>ah, my mistake, gregory does not have a/c</p>

<p>dubois, gregory, kc/eh, and hill all do not have a/c, but the other dorms (quad, stouffer, highrises) do</p>

<p>Which places have private sinks in the singles? And are you sure that the highrises don’t have a dining hall?</p>

<p>if you’re talking about private sinks in quad rooms, it varies by room and isn’t a constant thing even within the same house (and so it’s not guaranteed that you get an in-room sink, though many do have them)</p>

<p>and yes, highrises each have a little cafe but not a full dining hall</p>

<p>Yeah but would your meal plan allow you to eat at your highrise every day?</p>

<p>Is there some kind of a computer/resource center at Williams Hall wher eyou don’t have to pay to print?</p>

<p>Thanks again</p>

<p>Oh and seriously are their rats and mice because I can’t deal with that</p>

<p>well the cafe, i think, is like snacks and drinks, not enough for a meal</p>

<p>and everyone eats in the dining halls or carries out (takeout style from the buffets)</p>

<p>i’ve heard / seen / killed rats and mice in quad, but they only come if you’re careless (like leaving open bags of food just lying on the floor)</p>

<p>and williams doesn’t have a printing facility to my knowledge</p>

<p>Hi, I just want to give a run-through of my resume - I want to know if I’m worth of an Ivy. Okay so I go to a renowned private, all boys, Catholic high school. I haven’t received my 3 year average (because it can change dramatically because our final exams are 1/2 total average) but I have between 97.5-98.0 average on a 100 scale. I ran cross country and track for many season, unfortunately I was out because of injuries, and decided to stop this past season. I have played tennis for about 8 years, up until I was 15 - I did tournaments, travel team etc. I didn’t make my tennis team (very competitive haha)*I do not plan to play sports in college. I’ve played piano for 5 years, done recitals, state competitions etc. I play in a handbell choir at my church. I write for the school paper, in spanish club, Sacristans (a volunteer group), math club. I have a special skill in art, supposedly I’m supposed to make a portfolio. I haven’t taken SATs yet, but i think the range would be high 600s-mid 700s for both. I plan to take an ACT this fall, not sure how I’ll do, maybe 30, plus or minus. I’ve taken one AP (European History- 3)-not too fun. But I know I should be taking sat subject tests (does anyone recommend any?)
ANYWAYS! With what I listed above, is there any chance of top tier schools I could be accepted to, if so please list them. —as well as any other schools. I’m interested in pre-law/business/possibly pre-med. Also, I would definitely need financial aid. I really appreciate any suggestions, thanks for your time!</p>

<p>Yeah I think a girl in my hall was seriously traumatized when she woke up to find a rat in her bed =P </p>

<p>I think that was the only rat incident I knew of. Honestly though, I don’t get what the big deal is…it’s just a rat</p>

<p>IwannaGoToAnIvy, create a new thread for your question. You won’t get many responses like this</p>

<p>foreign language</p>

<p>I’m fluent in Russian yet a slow reader and can’t write (the grammar is schizophrenic). I took French for 3 years, hated every minute of it and would rather die than go through any more of that. How do I get through the Upenn requirement for foreign language?</p>

<p>Would study abroad knock it out? Any sneaky ways of doing it? If it helps, I’m a Joseph Wharton Scholar (learn finance in Munich or something for German credit?).</p>