Current Stern Sophomore: Ask Me

<p>To everyone who asks me to chance them, I don’t think it’s much of a value-add for me to do that. I’ve done enough of it in this thread and in the NYU forum already and it’s mostly guess-work as is.</p>

<p>@zhangvict
If you want to minor in Stern as a non-Stern student you will only get one option, “Business Studies.” As far as I know, you simply need to declare it and you can do it. That goes for anyone in any other program at NYU.</p>

<p>@NJSterling
It will be incredibly hard with those grades. You might want to reconsider going abroad and postpone it until junior fall; there are still a lot of people who go then and you want to get your grades up. Otherwise, you’ll probably get auto-dinged at most places you apply and the jobs you get won’t be that much of a resume booster.</p>

<p>@sgang
Unless you come in with every single AP that NYU accepts, 7 semesters is the earliest you can do it if you want a double major unless you take summer courses. My opinion is that you should only do that frosh summer, after which point you ought to be focusing on internships during the summer. Make sure you do your research about the differences between an MSF and MFin, each has its advantages.</p>

<p>@hi
You don’t need to take 4 years of science. If you do take an AP science, the advantage is that if you get a 4 or 5 you can exempt yourself from the freshman science requirement at NYU. You are not automatically accepted into the MBA program. Any school that offers undergrad and graduate business degrees has two separate schools that share only name. Stern as a graduate school is completely different from the undergrad program. Stern is not a school you should be aiming at for an MBA. If you can get into Stern undergrad, go somewhere better for grad.</p>

<p>Stern is not particularly good for entrepreneurship. The New York metro area is thriving in that regard, however. You can go to pretty much any program at NYU and follow your passion. Entrepreneurship isn’t something that can truly be taught, it’s an innate passion or pursuit and coursework can only help you understand certain mechanics of whatever business it is you are working to create (i.e. comp. science helps you with programming, marketing helps you with marketing your business, finance helps you understand valuation, etc.).</p>

<p>Your vision probably won’t get any worse than it already is.</p>

<p>@giatns
2100 is considered the breakwater point. Below that would be rare, over 2300 would be rare here as well.</p>

<p>@whatever
I strongly encourage it. Were I doing it all over again, Wagner would be something I’d have capitalized on from day one. It’s an amazing program with amazing faculty and it’s a shame they don’t have undergrad majors. The minor is as close as you can get and I really can’t speak highly enough of it. If it is something you are interested in, you shouldn’t care at all what it will do to your grades. Matter of fact, if you DO care about it your grades will be great because you’re passionate about it and motivated to do well. Stop doing things for what you think others will think of you for it and do what matters to you. It’s far more compelling when someone sees another person doing what they love and excelling at it than it is to see someone trying to put a checkmark in every box to make themselves as appealing as possible.</p>

<p>@icebell
They are now called concentrations, not majors. They made that change for 2015 and on. You may take up to 3, but if you do so, you cannot take a major outside of Stern.</p>

<p>@bowlofcurries
Haha, is that your InfoTech project?</p>

<p>Hey docks! </p>

<p>I’m a student from Cyprus but I have american citizenship as well. My dilemma is if i should apply as international or citizen- in which way do i have higher chances of being admitted if this assumption is correct.</p>

<p>Also, I just want to find out what are the standards for NYU Stern in general- SAT scores, GPA, other exams, extracurriculars.</p>

<p>Lastly, what kind of people are accepted into Stern- bcs I’m the kind of student that is doing good at school (3.8 gpa),however scored low on sats (1700), Math A-level B, IGCSE eng as a 2nd language A* (full marks), IGCSE lit B, but is sooooo much involved in leadership activities like becoming Chair of Meditteranean Model United Nations, winning national public speaking competitions, school council, plays pro volleyball and a lot of other things. I guess that makes me the kind of student that is well-rounded but less academic(well, not academic enough for Stern) . Do they want students like me? Would they overlook the lower grades bcs of my involvement all these things?</p>

<p>It would be such a relief for me if you help me with these things!Thank you from now!:D</p>

<p>I think the whole “international students get an edge in admissions” thing is bull. However, breadth of experience can be a huge plus in your app. i.e. Simply being from Cyprus does not get you in, but a powerful personal statement or supplement essay about how your unique experience in Cyprus has helped shape you and define your personality and goals will definitely be an incredible value.</p>

<p>Also: if you apply as an international, you are completely ineligible for financial aid from the university.</p>

<p>I think you need to improve your SAT. I don’t know of a single person with a <1800 SAT who has been admitted. There are kids with >2000 who have been deferred to LSP, and Stern does not do deferrals (you either get in or are rejected).</p>

<p>Your extracurriculars are stellar, but unfortunately you have to meet some of the basic numbers for what you do outside of the classroom to begin being a big boost for you. I would say aim for <strong>at least</strong> 2000.</p>

<p>Hello hellodocks! (lol) what do you think my chances are of NYU Stern ED1? </p>

<p>American Citizen living in China (do american citizens compete in different pools than with international students?) </p>

<p>GPA: 3.71 unweighted (don’t do weighted at my school, it might be a bit on the low side but hopefully they forgive me if they see my challenging course load!)
AP Courses: Senior workload AP Literature, AP Calculus BC, AP Chemistry, AP Government
Other AP’s excluding senior year: AP Microeconomics, AP Macroeconomics, AP Psychology, AP Language, AP US History, AP Chinese, IB BHL Chinese (All AP’s are 5’s) </p>

<p>SAT: 2320 (Math: 740, Writing: 800, Critical Reading: 780)</p>

<p>Extracurricular Activities</p>

<p>Microfinance foundation I started that raised around 30,000-40,000 RMB, held financial training seminar that I personally headed teaching rural woman how to manage money, sponsored farmers, worked in cooperation with Credit Ease (a credit company here in China), etc. (my strongest EC in my opinion, was published in the Shanghai Daily)
Internship with Credit Suisse (investment bank for those who are not familiar with it) was a basic comparables analyst learned the twists and turns of a prospective financial career
Founded my own basketball club with a friend that teaches kids basketball around the migrant areas, organizes games with them etc.
Habitat For Humanity trips to Sri Lanka and other places
Led fundraiser for leukemia patients raised 1000 dollars.
Model United Nations on planning committee that organizes conferences for our schools, delegate for school for continental conferences
Community Service (i have probably around 200 hours total)
Went to Africa to build homes and visit a local school called Jacaranda to teach them math.
JV Basketball (might win some awards but don’t know)
Math/Economics tutor for school
Math competitions -won some distinction award for CMC
AP Scholar with honors</p>

<p>Not applying for FA (would this help?)</p>

<p>hmm… might be missing some more but these are my main ones. I hope that my internship with credit suisse will help </p>

<p>Teacher recs: should be good, got it from my econ and lang teacher and my lang teacher said I was one of the best students in her class
Counselor Recs: probably generic but shouldn’t be detrimental
essays: i think they aren’t bad, got some feedback and many of them said they were really good but I’ll leave that up to admissions officers</p>

<p>Thanks 4 the advice!</p>

<p>Well obviously I’ve got a problem coz my last chance of getting a higher score on the SAT was the test I took yesterday and then I have to send in my scores (jan 1 deadline) :frowning:
I might just have touched the 1800 score…guess I didn’t realize how important the SATs were. So now my chances are very small if not inexistent right?</p>

<p>I’ll still apply, wont loose anything if I do but since I realized you’ve got general knowledge on uni stuff do you recommend any other colleges with good business programs around there, ny, nj, pa.</p>

<p>Also, what about the college of arts and sciences as an alternative?</p>

<p>ur better than my career counselor lol!</p>

<p>Chance me for NYU Stern Please!!! </p>

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<p>Hi. i applied ED1 to NYU Stern and im really nervous so could anyone chance me.
I go to a public high school in NJ
Ethnicity: well im a Sikh, so i guess Asian
Act: 30 (31 E, 32 M, 27 R, 30 S) 10 writing
GPA: 4.05 weighted, so about 3.7 unweighted
Courses: pretty much all honors classes or AP. including this year, i will have 8 classes. all A’s and B’s (with 1 C+ in honors english junior year ), APs: AP Calc AB, AP Microeconomics, AP Macroeconomics, AP Chemistry, AP Euro History, AP Bio, AP US History, AP Stat
EC’s:
-German Club (president 2 years)
-Marching Band (4 years, section leader 2 years)
-Volleyball (1 year)
-Asian American Club (2 years, mc for show)
-Model UN (2 years, on executive board)
-Peer tutoring program “Homework Helper” (self-made program that i started in freshman year in my public library to help struggling students in various subjects, president, many community service hours)
-Senior Center Volunteer (community service)
-Heritage Day (community service)
-Business internship at 22nd Century Technologies and Outline Systems (paid business internship at a growing insurance company over the summer)
-Religious organization at temple (active donator, Sikh games)</p>

<p>@fdsjaif
Not chancing anymore…</p>

<p>@katenic
SAT is just critical. There are two quantitative elements to an application and a number of qualitative. GPA and SAT are numbers, and ECs, leadership, difficulty of classes, essays, recommendations, and awards are all subjective. Your GPA is not a problem. Your SAT is a problem. The whole point of an application is to be as strong as possible in all areas. If you have a weakness somewhere, it better be countered somewhere else. Unfortunately, you have to meet a threshold in all areas. I’m not sure an SAT score that low does.</p>

<p>@bbhs
Not chancing.</p>

<p>Can help with any actual questions …</p>

<p>hi docks! what is a decent range of GPAs for a first semester freshmen?</p>

<p>3.5-3.8. A lot of kids will struggle to an extent adjusting to college, but with frosh classes it’s not that hard to come back by midterms and smash things by the time finals roll around. You want a strong foundation to build on. 3.5 your first semester means you can get a 3.8+ your second semester and your average is 3.6+, a good spot to be in.</p>

<p>If you’re north of there already, great. If you’re below, you realize you need to really ratchet up the intensity and put school at the forefront of things.</p>

<p>In unrelated news . . .
A Merry Christmas to all!!</p>

<p>I am Sophomore at Rutgers Business School and I want to transfer to Sterns in Fall 2012. Although I have 3.95+ GPA right now, I had a very low SAT score (1730). Do you think I should mention my SAT when I apply? I heard that Transfers are not required to mention SAT if they are planning to transfer in their Junior year. And is it hard to transfer in junior year as compared to sophomore year? Thank you in Advance.</p>

<p>Hey !! I have a quick question. I was going to mail my Collegeboard Application Fee Waiver Form to the NYU undergrad admission office today but I forgot that the admission office is on break too. Does that mean that they won’t get my fee waiver until Jan 2nd? Or do they look at the date the letter was mailed and consider that as the day they receive the fee waiver?</p>

<p>@nsandhu
I was not aware that students can omit their SAT scores on the transfer application for juniors. If that is true, you ought to have a good chance because that GPA is insane. I a, not sure how much harder it is to transfer as a junior vs. sophomore. I would definitely not say it’s easier. My first reaction is that it’s probably a bit harder because (believe it or not) Stern started taking LSP transfers this past year and they only come after junior year.</p>

<p>@emily
I honestly have no idea how to answer that. The answer you probably don’t want to hear is that you should’ve mailed it before Christmas. The answer you’re probably looking for is that they may be lenient, particularly if you call and explain the situation over the phone. Unfortunately, if the deadline is 1/1 like it was when I did it, you may be forced to pay the fee. Best case scenario, you get reimbursed after they receive your waiver.</p>

<p>thanks for replying. I just mailed my letter out today and I heard about that they look at the post mark date. I will call them on Jan 4th (the day the office reopens) and hopefully they will still accept my application!</p>

<p>@hellodocks Thank you for replying. This is the link I was looking at in regards to standardized testing requirements [Standardized</a> Tests](<a href=“How to Apply”>How to Apply) . I will call the admission office to make sure. And I have very good scores in my ISC (Indian School Certificate) Exams. Do you think NYU Sterns’ admission committee give any importance to out of country examinations such as ISC’s? Once again thank you.</p>

<p>@emily
Good luck. I’m sure the application process is nerve-wracking enough without having to worry about that. </p>

<p>@nsandhu
Yes, I think calling the office is the best idea. I am not familiar with the ISCs. Are they comparable to our SAT exam? If your test is directly comparable to an American college entrance exam, they are probably very familiar with it as we are heralded as one of the premiere “global universities.”</p>

<p>@hellodocks ISCs are the standardized exams which colleges in India look at during the admission process. It is basically a final exam in high school but it is made by National authorities and is similar in every part of the country. Anyways how much do NYU focuses on SATs when they look at junior year transfer admission? Do you think my low SATs (1730) will hurt me very badly in the admission process even though I have high college and high school GPA?? I am really worried as it is my last shot at Sterns. Thank you.</p>

<p>It is Stern. Not “Sterns.”</p>

<p>If you have taken the SAT, they will look at that, not whatever test is popular in your home country. Your score is quite low for this school, unfortunately. 2100 is considered a safe spot. You are well below that. Sometimes they are lenient with international candidates because they know the language barrier can be a challenge, but that score is pushing it too far I’m afraid.</p>

<p>Hi Docks,</p>

<p>I am curious how did you attain so much knowledge about the banking and finance industry before even working.</p>

<p>Are most of it through googling? Or do you have any good books to reccomend?</p>

<p>Also can you share some interview skills or ways to prepare yourself so that one can clinch a good internship/job. And what impt qualities the employers are looking for?</p>

<p>Hello Docks, </p>

<p>I read the entire thread, it is very informative so thank you very much for the time you devoid to us. </p>

<p>I had a question: What’s the proportion of Stern students who want to do graduate studies? What schools are they most looking at? </p>

<p>Also, could you “chance me”, please?</p>

<p>I am French, lived in France and studied in the French system my entire life. </p>

<p>Stern APPLYING EARLY DECISION 2</p>

<p>Tests:
SAT 2100 (CR650, M720, W730)
SAT Math II : 680
TOEFL ibt: 110</p>

<p>Activities:

  • President of my school’s students board
  • Creator and chief editor of my school’s magazine
  • Internship at the Paris astrophysics institute</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:

  • Stanford summer school 2010
  • Civil volunteering in Israel (2 weeks)</p>

<p>Honors:

  • Schools’ Student of Honor
  • Winner of a research program at the Israel Institute of Technology</p>

<p>Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White</p>

<p>(I realize I am lacking of ECs and especially community work but in France we have absolutely no opportunities or volunteering service programs)</p>