Cvw

<p>Having attended Feb.8-10, I have a few observations-</p>

<p>What an amazing group of young men and women, what can I say?
Clean and clean cut
No strange hairdos
No piercings or tatoos (visible at least)
Not a sullen one in the bunch -all seemed friendly, positive, eager to get to know each other
Most appeared to have TWO parents with the occasional proud grandpa here and there
Kids and parents were without exception friendly and well-mannered and more than willing to help each other out with questions, suggestions, anything
The leaders were approachable and positive and did nothing less than make us feel welcome and proud and positive about the opportunity for our kids to potentially be part of something so ...... words cannot describe. So I guess what I am trying to say is all this stuff is important and it DOES matter and I am so glad that we (and our kids) get it.</p>

<p>welcome to our forum, utahmom....be advised we are all USNA fanatics and so you should feel right at home!!</p>

<p>You're positive comments are just 'preaching to the choir' but in true Black Gospel style, all I can say is AMEN and PREACH IT SISTER!!</p>

<p>And for the record
yes,
mids have bad days
some have very bad days</p>

<p>but you wouldn't bump into that at a CVW
USNA is as human as the rest of us....:-) talk to any current or former mid, eh GreatAmerican or Zaphod???</p>

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all this stuff is important and it DOES matter and I am so glad that we (and our kids) get it.

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<p>and that can make ALL the difference....</p>

<p>welcome aboard!</p>

<p>Thanks 2010!<br>
Nothing in the mail for the boy today, but twin sister got acceptance letter to U of U pre-nursing BS! This somewhat reduces the family anxiety level for now : )</p>

<p>"No piercings or tatoos (sic)...
Most appeared to have TWO parents"
-utahmom</p>

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<p>I have a few questions about this posting:</p>

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<li><p>Is it normal for parents to accompany candidates to CVW? </p></li>
<li><p>Don't ALL mids have TWO parents? Does utahmom mean that most mids' parents are still living AND happily married to each other, and that's a good thing? If this is what she intended, then isn't an appointment to USNA or the other service academies, an even GREATER accomplishment for mids (without tattoos) from single parent families? </p></li>
<li><p>I also understand that more than 10,000 citizens of Utah are currently living in polygamous relationships. Therefore, I imagine that candidates from Utah could have even MORE than TWO parents!</p></li>
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<p>Wow! USNA09mom, thank you for your insight and, especially, for digging out and expounding upon all the perceived inferences in this post. As a parent who did not accompany my child to CVW and who was also a single mom for quite some time, I failed to catch all the things that so clearly should have "offended" me. I had merely taken Utahmom's comments as a nice, pleasant outlook on CVW and the kids present, one of whom happened to be my unaccompanied son.
Seriously, Utahmom, thank you for your comments and I, too, would like to welcome you to the group. I'm a newbie here myself...</p>

<p>Thank you for your kind words nickinest - that post did hurt some. I guess my feelings are a bit tender at the time. I will now politely excuse myself for a while-
and usna09mom, please feel free to point out and correct any additional spelin adn gramer erors - (polygamous inbreading you know)</p>

<p>Utahmom-</p>

<p>Come on back. We're not all insensitive boors. Your thread was meant in the nicest and positive way possible. </p>

<p>I would say to all of the "oldies" out there when dealing with us "newbies": say something constructive/nice, or don't say anything at all.</p>

<p>Utahmom - I agree, stick around. This is a great group with lots to share. It is kind of like a family, you know once in awhile some distant relative shows up at holiday dinner and spouts off something totally inane - the family laughs under there breath and all is good again. Take everything we say with a grain of salt and don't let it bug you. Chatting online is a tough - it is very hard to get the feel of what people mean. I go by the rule that if someone wrote something that is offensive to me, I can not assume they intended offend - I can only assume that the internet medium we use is interfering with real communication. </p>

<p>Although USNA09mom seems to have taken offense, and returned the offense, it is much easier, and likely more accurate, to assume the communication is at fault or agree to disagree as one might with their opinionated great uncle. </p>

<p>Welcome to the family - we're thrilled to have you with us.</p>

<p>Utahmom, congrats on twin sis's good news! That is big! I'm sure the boy will get his good news soon.</p>

<p>I remember when we went (yup: Dad, Spider, and me. We would've brought the sisters, the dog, and the cat but finances prevailed) thinking nice thoughts about the peer group at CVW. What an amazing group....one with whom you'd love to have your kid associated. </p>

<p>Please stay. :)</p>

<p>Whoo Hoo! Congrat's to Utahmom's daughter! Cool!</p>

<p>We're not sending the boy to cvw. He had to choose; flying lessons or trip to place he's been two times prior. He chose cessna. :D</p>

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Although USNA09mom seems to have taken offense...

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<p>It's a habit with her, and not nearly as much offense as we take at her continued juvenile inability to keep the hole under her nose shut. :mad:</p>

<p>I wonder if her bigotted view of all things non-Kalifornian will be affected any when I say that I'm actively working on moving out to the STUNNINGLY beautiful state of Utah within the next two years? :D</p>

<p>Cue the music!</p>

<p>"Utah!"
(ROLLING drum roll)
"Utah is the place where I wanna BE!"
"Give me my home, my friends, my fami-LEE!"</p>

<p>(Yes, I watched the Osmonds as a kid. Sue me. ;) )</p>

<p>You know, being from California she's one to be talking about parents and marriages. At least in Utah they know what plumbing to pick their spouses with and actually have their own kids instead of suing for or using a turkey baster to get them. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Welcome, Utahmom! Please excuse those among us with no sense of class at all. As Peskemom and USNA2010 will attest, I told them during Parent's Weekend last year that they should take a good look not just at the Mids, but at their FAMILIES as well. You are right: they are clean-cut, intelligent, classy, polite, cultured, etc., etc., etc. In other words, just like their Mids they are the creme de la creme of American society. You were very observant. </p>

<p>Of course, as in any sampling plan, there is always the outlier. You just ran into one of those and I'll apologize on her behalf whether she likes it or not.</p>

<p>*Right now my supporters here are sucking in their breath. Sorry guys, but I'VE HAD IT. I will NOT sit here quietly and watch a proud mom get run off the site because someone's bigotry won't allow her to accept a simple compliment offered to the parents of a kid's potential future classmates. I've kept 95%+ of my word from last summer, but I draw the line here and let the heavens fall if they must. I trust the Admins will be able to tell the difference.</p>

<p>Zaphod puts on his blindfold, pulls out a fine cigar, and awaits the admins with a defiant BEAT ARMY!*</p>

<p>"Utah!"
(ROLLING drum roll)
"Utah is the place where I wanna BE!"
"Give me my home, my friends, my fami-LEE!"</p>

<p>Give me time to rest my mind, then we'll have a par-ty!!</p>

<p>You weren't the only one to watch the Osmonds, you know. I still have fond crush memories of Jay, the drummer. :D</p>

<p>And just to show you how serious I am about this, I just put MYSELF on report to the mods for this thread. ENOUGH! :mad:</p>

<p>Someone pass me my torch. My cigar went out.</p>

<p>oh my!!!! :eek:</p>

<p>another DEEP BREATH PLEASE!</p>

<p>Usna09mom... come on...
no one is dissing "single parent"families.... and I would have to agree with utahmom in that I encounter many more "intact" (mom and dad) families than not on the yard...and I have been fortunate enough to get there lots... but that is a gross observation at best.... and isn't that what utahmom posted....her observation? </p>

<p>what i would suggest is that one inquire if this is "what was meant" before arming the nukes...</p>

<p>so in that light...
Z... you sure those are ceee-gars you are smokin there buddy????
And putting oneself on report.... very NAVY of you!!!!</p>

<p>Yeah. Hoo-yah. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Felt it was the right thing to do. We'll see what happens.</p>

<p>I'll send you some Cuesta Rey's. :D</p>

<p>the "polygamous utah" post was a little harsh i think. of course i am a latter-day saint. everyone knows we're crazy. and 10,000 people, when compared to the over 300 million in our country, seems a somewhat small pool to draw from.</p>

<p>I'd have to disagree. It wasn't harsh; it was vile. People should not be attacked on this forum for their denomination. It was a cheap, nasty, below the belt kind of shot. :mad:</p>

<p>From 2-11-07 from the moderators:</p>

<p>"....expressly forbids community members from engaging in personal attacks while posting here at CollegeConfidential.com. Disagreement between two human beings is natural and expected, but when it has the potential for driving away people who would otherwise stand to gain insight on the issues facing service academy parents, it is an issue for the community-at-large.</p>

<p>Please abide by the TOS when posting, as it benefits everyone involved-- especially the parents!"</p>

<p>Best,
Moderator Staff</p>