Dartmouth 2023 Applicants Discussion

Time to keep working I guess

Accepted. It looks like people with date changes in the Financiad Aid Portal got Accepted, Deferred, AND Rejected. I was correct: it has little correlation with acceptance.

@2022jx I know, but I talked about EC and leadership which, the person who got accepted from out school had next to none except SJW activism. The bias is very clear. It was stacked up against me from the beginning. Yes I could have done better to fit more but I think u would agree that more or less it was not all fair play.

@AudreyKang @screamingkettle congrats to you both. But it seems that it just not my fate to be in dartmouth, despite having better awards, ec and grades than many who got accepted on this forum.

BTW no date changes, no request for mid-semester grades. Denied. The conspiracy theories may be true.

@Tachanka11 That’s tough.

It seems the number of students accepted dropped. It fell from 565 to 549 this year. Do you guys think it is due to more selectivity this year or because the number of applications dropped?

Also, it seems a lot more people are being rejected this year during Early Decision. In previous, literally everyone not accepted would be deferred. It is not the case this year.

@rhine7567, how do you know how many accepted ED students there are?

@Tachanka11 I understand your frustration—rejection sucks, and you’re clearly qualified in many respects. However, your righteous indignation and entitlement on this thread is bordering on offensive for those who just got in, especially when you start talking about how they’re less accomplished/deserving. Dartmouth continuously emphasizes how they try to discern the personality and character of each applicant to construct the most kind, compassionate, curious class. In my opinion, anyone bitter enough to deem themselves “the brightest in their class,” complain about rejection from an Ivy League institution, say outright “I bet you’re wondering why I didn’t get in,” and assume the system is working against them because another worthy student got in over them simply does not fit Dartmouth’s criteria for being a good human being (and I guess Dartmouth’s AO picked up on that).

@taliecharley It’s written on the Admitted Students page.

@2022jx @Tachanka11 I just got rejected as well, and I’m not going down the same road as Tachanka but I think the anger comes from a mix of working so hard towards a goal we wanted so badly and coming up completely short. I personally knew that there weren’t any certainties when applying to such a prestigious institution, but also thought that given my credentials I had a decent chance of acceptance. Getting flat out rejected instead of at least deferred felt surprising, disappointing to say the least, but also, cavalier as it may be, somewhat insulting. I’m not defending him parading his stated superiority in regards to others, but I as well felt that I had a more competitive application that some of the people who got accepted as well as deferred on this forum and am rather despondent from my results. I knew that I wanted to go there more than anything else and being blatantly told “You don’t belong here whatsoever” is rather disheartening.

Also Tachanka, I get it, man, I’m really emotionally charged on the matter as well, but we should be happy for the people that got in, even if they can’t really be happy for us.

Also to anyone who wouldn’t mind, I did post my application template on the new ED results thread and would appreciate if anyone wanted to look at it and tell me if what the major points were that brought me down. Hopefully I can change some of those before my other applications are due

@2022jx Like I said, I stated the fact, which is simple: I have done more EC, more leadership, better grades and better SAT. I do not know how much they come into play. But these are the only things we are capable of knowing. And all I am saying is that from these things, I seem to be better. So I then started wondering if there are other variables that comes into play that may put me in a disadvantage. How is that entitlement or offensive in anyway? Also, don’t put words in my mouth, i said “perhaps the brightest” which implies there may be students better than me. And I never said they are less deserving as I mentioned in my stats that she seems to be very competent and very bright. If anything, she is perfectly qualified like many other applicants. Does that sound not deserving to you? Why is it offensive or entitled for me to think that there are other things that affected my admission when CLEARLY the stats posted are better than some who are accepted? Isn’t it exactly the point? To understand what I did wrong and improve or perhaps find what factors affected me in the admission process? And why is it not offensive for you to call me entitled when I question the other variables such as gender and race that we all clearly know played a role in the admission? Actually, for you to say that my confidence in a rec letter mentioned in my stats is a quality that got me rejected seems rather arrogant. Is that something that should be expected in a Dartmouth student?

@Ecatta totally understood! I went through the exact same thing last year throughout my college admissions process. I got rejected/WL by many schools I felt I was very (perhaps overly) qualified for, and it’s confusing/hurtful to see other people get in and to wonder what they had over you. But it’s obviously not okay to demean or rationalize others’ acceptance, especially on a public thread like this; They worked really hard, just like you. Schools are looking for different things/people, and it’s often utterly unpredictable. I know plenty people who got rejected from their ED school last year and went onto get into equally good schools (one of my friends at dmouth was rejected from Williams ED & accepted to Dartmouth and Duke RD). Keep your head up!!

I did the little information sheet for the 2023 ED results. Not sure if that’ll help much but I hope it helps someone in the end…or maybe just helps me, lol.
I’ll give Dartmouth another chance if I get into a school that does the dual Engineering degree with them (looking at you, Middlebury (-; )

Everyone at my school was rejected… including me!

@2022jx thanks, also I’m not very informed on the tranfer stats of Dartmouth bc I still might want to go there and was wondering if that is a realistic possibility or is something that only really exists on paper. Thanks for the support btw, much needed.

@Tachanka11 It’s okay. @2022jx just wants to defend those who got in. But I do agree the 2022jx is being too aggressive there, getting personal and all. Tachanka11 does bring up some good points.

@Ecatta my understanding is that it’s not very easy to transfer into Dartmouth, but it’s definitely possible. I know someone actually who transferred from MIT recently. My suggestion, though, is that you apply broadly for RD and fall in love with whatever options you have. The whole “perfect fit,” “dream school” phenomena is kinda a myth; there are lots of schools out there that would make you very happy and fulfilled.

@Ecatta I agree. Sometimes it’s just luck, too many unknown factors…