<p>How good is Dartmouth for Economics? Does it even compare to top programs like Chicago or Harvard. I know it has a good business school but that doesn't always mean it has a good Econ program to.</p>
<p>I don't know what Newsweek ranking you're referring to, but irregardless wouldn't base much off it. Either way, Dartmouth is certainly a top school for economics whether you're looking to enter a PhD program, law school or business related job. How much do the Nobels teach and how good or interested are they in teaching versus research anyway? Not to mention, UChicago has possibly the weakest social scene of any college in the U.S.; so it takes a very particular bent to enjoy the experience it provides.</p>
<p>i have a friend majoring in econ at dartmouth and indeed it is very highly regarded and I will second gellino's statement about chicago's social scene (from what i've heard anyways)</p>
<p>Dartmouth's undergraduate Econ program is very strong. Not as strong as MIT's or Chicago's, but up there with the best of them nonetheless. The only issue I have with Dartmouth's Econ department is that graduate level Econ classes are hard to come by. At schools like Columbia, Cornell, Michigan, Northwestern or Penn students have a sellection of dozens of graduate level Econ classes and often end up taking a handful before graduating.</p>
<p>Dartmouth has an excellent Economics Department, and econ is one of the most popular majors here. All econ courses are taught by renowned professors, and the largest course this term is comprised of only 48 students. Because you will never be placed in a class filled with hundreds of students, I disagree with Alexandre that Dartmouth students are at much of a disadvantage because we can't take many graduate level courses. </p>
<p>Also, just last week we had an activities fair in which over a hundred corporate recruiters came to talk with students. These included JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and Morgan Stanley (I even picked up a little digital calendar from Goldman Sachs, how cool is that?). You will also have the chance to get in touch with our extensive alumni network when looking for a job.</p>
<p>To check out the Econ Department's website, go here:
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Eeconomic/%5B/url%5D">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~economic/</a></p>
<p>I did not say Dartmouth students are at a disadvantage. I said Dartmouth students do not have the luxury of taking many graduate level classes.</p>
<p>Economics??? Think Chicago & MIT.
Next tier is Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, and Berkeley.</p>
<p>Economics is one of those majors in which the faculty strengths do really have a large part.</p>
<p>Remember- When you look at the methodology used in USNews ranking carefully, you will see that the grad program rankings, where the quality of the program, faculty, students etc are more at issue - which is less true with undergrad programs (not ranked according to discrete criteria, but only with a simple "peer reputation" list). In short, if economics is what you want to study in college, and want to find out the schools that have best economics department, this is it.</p>
<p>Overall economics department rank:</p>
<p>Dartmouth will get you into the best grad schools in the country, it does better than every one of the "highest" ranked department schools except HYPSM at getting grads into top MBA and Law programs, it has 5/7 top banks and 4/5 top consulting firms recruiting on its campus, and the focus is on undergrads as opposed to grad students. Not to mention an amazing college experience in general. You can study all day long at Chicago and Cal, Dartmouth will serve you just as well or better.</p>
<p>What more could you want?</p>
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<p>According to the survey below, the most important factor in choosing college ** is Academic Strength in my Intended Major**. </p>
<p>Tell me, Slipper. Would you really suggest Dartmouth over Berkeley for students who want to major engineering? In a similar vein, I have no doubt that many students who want to major economics will gladly choose Chicago over Dartmouth.</p>
<p>90% of Dartmouth engineering students who enter the workforce go into consulting or banking, realizing these are much more lucrative fields than engineering. The biggest hirer at MIT? McKinsey. If you want to work for a big manufacturer as an engineer, Illinois is better than Harvard, but few Harvard grads want to work in manufacturing. </p>
<p>So yes, the overall reputation of the school is MUCH more important that the major rank except a few select areas (Film, accounting, etc).</p>
<p>Specific disciplines like engineering and film is one thing, but something much more general like economics does not necessitate going to Berkeley over Dartmouth because of a peer reputation survey. People on here, in general, seem to be way too focused on this school is #5 in this and this other one is #12, so I'm going to #5 without realizing that this difference is meaningless, will change repeatedly every year and is insignificant in comparison to other factors (school size, location, social scene, etc.). To me, anyone debating between UChicago and Dartmouth hasn't done their homework in the first place. These schools couldn't be more different in every way besides having strong academics.</p>
<p>I agree. I am not sure why people think liberal arts major rankings matter. In my experience they are practically meaningless.</p>
<p>D, while on her study abroad program last weekend met up with one of her friends who is on Dartmouth's study abroad program in Milan for Economics </p>
<p>A major focus of research and teaching in the Economics Department is International Economics. A term abroad offers exciting options for students to improve their understanding of the topics the department teaches (for example, the effects of globalization), for exposing students to current economic issues (for example, the effects of a common currency, the Euro, on economic growth) and to introduce students to different schools of economic thought. Additionally, this program will allow Dartmouth students to benefit from the experience of a small, urban university in a country with a social and economic system much different than our own. The program will enable our students to become fully affiliated members of Bocconi University with complete access to libraries, lectures, seminars and other facilities. Similarly, Bocconi students coming to Dartmouth will experience an environment much different from their own institution and will have complete access to Dartmouth facilities. Both institutions will benefit from the cross-fertilization process that will result from this exchange.</p>
<p>Bocconi University offers exchange programs with some of the major and more prestigious universities in the US (Cornell University, University of Chicago, University of California-Los Angeles, University of California-Berkeley, etc.) and across the world. Most importantly, Bocconi offers a host of services that can be particularly helpful to Dartmouth students. Faculty appointed by Bocconi will serve as faculty advisors for Dartmouth students, and can assist them in choosing courses and in navigating the academic system at Bocconi.</p>
<p>They must be doing something right when students start to complain when they go to job fair that there are so many jobs and on-campus interviews for banking and consulting that they would like to see more things outside of those fields.</p>
<p>to piggy back on BigJen's comments: about the employer fair:</p>
<p>Write up from the employer fair:</p>
<p>Taylor Cornwall '06 made the last-minute decision to "go corporate," eventually with Mercer consulting firm. This year, he returned to Dartmouth to recruit for his company. It was a big step for the history major that spent his junior summer teaching in China.</p>
<p>Economics major Kelsey Wiegmann '06, who also revisited her alma mater on behalf of her new employer, always thought she would do something in finance. She just didn't have a definite direction. "It was basically through the career fair that I learned what banking was about," she said.</p>
<p>Three interview rounds later, Wiegmann was one of 11 Dartmouth students in Deutsche Banks's incoming financial analyst group of 150.</p>
<p>Some seniors have already signed with companies. Alisha Levine '07 interned at consulting firm Bain & Company during her junior summer and accepted an offer at the end of the internship.</p>
<p>Levine reflected that her strong belief in the power of liberal arts led her to major in Chinese despite its apparent contrast with her new career.</p>
<p>*** debating whether Dartmouth recognition and success translates to real-world recognition and success should look to the Barrett Cup winner for all-around achievement by a man in his graduating class, Pete Sokol-Hessner '04. Currently pursuing a Ph.D. in Cognitive Neuroscience at NYU, Sokol-Hessner was recently featured in a New Yorker article on the emerging field of neuroeconomics. ***</p>
<p>Private equity Associate Michael Newton '04 echoed Doughty's assessment. Despite working with graduates from numerous top-tier schools, Newton said he consistently finds Dartmouth students to be fast learners, high-level performers and, perhaps most notably, well-rounded individuals who aren't as "crazy-competitive" as other graduates.</p>
<p>After graduating, Newton worked at a private equity firm with three Dartmouth-connected team members, including one who insisted that the firm recruit at the College. </p>
<p>Following companies holding on-campus interviews:</p>
<p>CITIGROUP / Capital Markets S&O:
CAPITAL MARKETS OPERATIONS ANALYST
CAPITAL MARKETS S&O ANALYST </p>
<p>CITIGROUP/CITIBANK / Financial Division
FINANCE ANALYST </p>
<p>INVESTOR GROUP SERVICES (IGS)</p>
<p>LEHMAN BROTHERS / Investment Banking-INVESTMENT BANKING ANALYST </p>
<p>LEHMAN BROTHERS / Sales & Trading or Equity Research:
PUBLIC FINANCE ANALYST
SECURITIZATION BANKING ANALYST
SALES, TRADING AND RESEARCH ANALYST
EQUITY RESEARCH ANALYST </p>
<p>LOUIS DREYFUS COMMODITIES -COMMODITY TRADER PROGRAM
BANK OF AMERICA -I-BANKING & CAPITAL MARKETS ANALYST </p>
<p>Credit Suisse First Boston Corp- EQUITY AND FIXED INCOME S&T ANALYST
MONITOR GROUP -UNDERGRADUATE GROUP CONSULTANT </p>
<p>BARCLAYS CAPITAL BRIDGEWATER ASSOCIATES
MORGAN STANLEY SEMPRA COMMODITIES
GOLDMAN, SACHS & CO CIBC WORLD MARKETS
DEAN & COMPANY DRESDNER KLEINWORT FIDELITY INVESTMENTS
JPMORGAN KEEFE, BRUYETTE & WOODS, INC
NEWSTAR FINANCIAL Northwestern Mutual Financial
STANDARD & POOR'S VISTA RESEARCH
UBS DEUTSCHE BANK MERCER MANAGEMENT CONSULTING
MCKINSEY AND COMPANY BLACKROCK
BAIN & COMPANY MERCER OLIVER WYMAN
MARS & COMPANY BEAR STEARNS & COMPANY
LEK CONSULTING MERRILL LYNCH
APPLIED VALUE BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP
NERA ECONOMIC CONSULTING REVOLUTION PARTNERS, LLC
CAMBRIDGE ASSOCIATES LLC NORTHBRIDGE GROUP
TRINITY PARTNERS, INC. / Healthcare Consulting
WACHOVIA CORPORATION AXIA LIMITED
CAPITAL ONE PARTHENON GROUP CSMG Adventis
LECG DOVE CONSULTING BROWN BROTHERS HARRIMAN & CO.
LNR SECURITIES CORPORATE EXECUTIVE BOARD BANCWARE ERISK
ALLIANCE CONSULTING GROUP
lazard</p>