<p>How good is their natural science department + environmental studies?</p>
<p>Actually its very good. Perhaps not top ranked (graduate level), but amazing opportunities nonetheless such as Africa study abroad, full undergraduate lab, amazing professor interaction, etc.</p>
<p>thanks, do you have the link for these rankings?</p>
<p>also, would it be better to choose a school based on academics or overall fit? dartmouth is definitely a perfect match, all except for strength in sciences.</p>
<p>Honestly, Dartmouth will get you into almost any grad school. For undergrad, Dartmouth stands out, which is awesome for getting into grad school. On top of that, it is very undergrad focused, which gives you amazing opportunities. All the LACs are like this, I think people focus too much on grad department rankings. I have literally seen countless of my classmates at the TOP graduate programs.</p>
<p>I'm going to do neuroscience at Dartmouth next year, so I had a word or two to say about Dartmouth science. You must remember that if you are going into research, you'll do most of it at the graduate level. You need a well-rounded undergraduate education to prepare you for what you'll encounter. That's why I chose Dartmouth...</p>
<p>I think Dartmouth is one of the worst schools for sciences around. They are a LAC, not a science powerhouse. They are pretty much running on Windows 98, while the real science powerhouses like Cal Tech, Berkeley, MIT, Stanford, UCLA, University of Michigan are running on Windows XP, if you wanted a literary analogy. The reason they don't do research at Dartmouth as an undergraduate is because they don't have a respectable program at the graduate level that pushes undergraduate research. Ask around and find the real answers. No one here will tell you the real truth, from what it seems.</p>
<p>As to sciences, research etc, pursue the links and sublinks:
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edof/sciences.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dof/sciences.html</a></p>
<p>As to operating systems, not sure where you are getting the idea that Dartmouth runs on Windows 98
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/comp/%5B/url%5D">http://www.dartmouth.edu/comp/</a></p>
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They are pretty much running on Windows 98, while the real science powerhouses like Cal Tech, Berkeley, MIT, Stanford, UCLA, University of Michigan are running on Windows XP, if you wanted a literary analogy.
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West Sidee didn't mean that literally.</p>
<p>Gotcha- major embarassment.</p>
<p>West Sidee is an idiot. If this were true why are literally all my friends at top graduate schools? I mean TOP. I cannot tell you how many times I email an old friend to find out he is at Stanford Engineering, Berkeley anthropology, Harvard Medical School, etc!! </p>
<p>I can tell you why. When professors focus on undergrads, it takes their vested interest to another level. My friend at Yale Medical school swears it wasn't even his grades or GPA that got him in, it was his published paper with his professor on Crayfish neurological systems.</p>
<p>^ Well, I truly did not know. All I know is that when I look at Silicon Valley companies, and look at successful individuals in bio-tech, research, academia, etc... they have all had their undergraduates at the top science schools. I would imagine there to be more research opportunities at a traditional science school, but if there are some at a lower tier LAC, then thats good for people who go to LAC's too.</p>
<p>Excuse me? Are you calling Dartmouth a "lower tier LAC"? Because if you are, you are sadly, sadly mistaken.</p>
<p>Not only is Dartmouth one of the top feeder schools to the BEST graduate schools in science and engineering (coming just in after HYPS), but it was one of the first campuses to start using computers, one of the first campuses to go wireless, and the ONLY school with a Blitzmail network.</p>
<p>People do not go to Dartmouth to spend 20 hours a day in a lab working with nanoparticles (although, if you wanted an internship doing that, Dartmouth professors could probably get you connections). Go to Caltech, if that's your thing. People who go to Dartmouth want a top undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Get your facts straight, buddy.</p>
<p>Ahem...THE first to go fully wired, then the first to go wireless. Not to mention the place that hosted the first conference on artificial intelligence research and in which BASIC was invented.</p>
<p>I'm curious, West Sidee. What exactly is your definition of a "lower tier LAC"?</p>
<p>Whoops my bad. Don't mean to offend anyone here. I meant a lower tier LAC in sciences. Harvey Mudd would be considered an upper tier LAC in the sciences.</p>
<p>lmao... harvey mudd, my friend got full scholarship there and he is passing that off to go to dartmouth to do science w/ not much aid...</p>
<p>Dartmouth's science program is one of the top in the country. There was a list posted of the top 50 med feeder schools (sorry, I don't have the link), and Dartmouth was, if I remember correctly, number 7...in the COUNTRY. It was certainly in the top 15. That sells me.</p>
<p>Also, I can't agree with you that Dartmouth is considered a "lower tier LAC" in ANY program whatsoever...I mean, it is an ivy league school with one of the best reputations in the country. It was ranked 9th overall last year by US News and World Report, and is said to be climbing up the ladder (much like Penn has done recently).
For that matter, I chose Dartmouth over Penn and Georgetown because of its science department...Dartmouth's Med School (students' #1 choice) Yield Rate is higher than both of those.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong at ANY school that has as good a reputation as does Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Go Big Green!</p>
<p>-H2O-</p>
<p>I laugh at people like West Sidee. Honestly, there is no way I would support this school so much if I wasn't constantly amazed at the success of its graduates.</p>
<p>If I go to Dartmouth for pre-med, how important is research in getting into a top-tier med school? Is it not a serious issue, should I have a little research under my belt, or do it 24/7/365? Can I get away with dbl majoring in music (French horn) and learning a few languages? For that matter, could I double major in Biochemistry and Music, and does Dartmouth have an open music major program?</p>
<p>Thanks,
Chris</p>
<p>Honestly, just make sure you do a senior thesis in a science. That usually is a path to a top ten med school if you have a GPA of 3.6+. My friends with 3.8+ didnt even do much research and got into top five.</p>
<p>hmmm...its ok...research here is not great. I've done research before and when i got here, my advisor assured me that I was going to get an internship. But its like ridiculous. I applied for a bunch, and then most of the answers I got were either a) background too strong for basic research or b) not old enough. I don't turn 18 until my sophmore year, so they won't let me work with animals. I just wish they had more funding in their research department. This school is more humanities based.</p>