<p>How would you guys rank these colleges for pre-med?</p>
<p>oh...and also northwestern</p>
<p>Find the school that's the best fit for you. "Fit" includes school culture, school location and campus, and the cost of attending. I advise you to visit the schools and speak with current students.</p>
<p>The only other thing that really matters is the pre-med advising, and since all four schools send students on to medical school, the advising is probably all equally good.</p>
<p>any other opinions?</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins has a 90% acceptance rate of premed applying into medical school. That is on par with the best of the best premed Ivy league school such as Yale, Columbia, UPenn, and Harvard.</p>
<p>Hopkins premed committee stands out above the rest and is highly regarded among the medical school admission circle for this reason and this reason only: premed committee writes a very lengthy and comprehensive letter of recommendation for you the applicant applying to med school with the seal of the university approval. I've heard that medical school admission officiers take the university's letter of recommendation, which is based off of your resume, background, mcat, gpa, and LORs of faculty, staff, and etc. more seriously and with greater weight than individual LORs themselves. Since it carries so much weight, admission officers take it for what its worth.</p>
<p>I believe the quality of Johns Hopkins premed advisors is just as valueable as the committee itself. They are equally important in assisting premed students and guiding them through the path of arduous process of applying to med school.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins is also synomous with medicine in general and is internationally recognized for its research and outstanding accomplishments in the field of medicine. Thats why the Johns Hopkins medical school and Johns Hopkins Hospital are ranked #2 and #1 respectively for the last decade alone.</p>
<p>Yes, Premed at Hopkins right here if you didn't notice. :-)</p>
<p>Hopkins though has a weird perception of being cutthroat and highly competitive environment because there are so many premeds striving for the perfect 4.0 GPA.</p>
<p>I have not personally witness that before. It is competitive in the fact that you will work your butt off and everyone is striving for that letter grade they want. Personally, I thrive off competition and I get pumped when I get my test score back and cheer at the expense of others. :-) Yes, evil. I am evil.</p>
<p>Actually, what I've found to be the most outstanding aspect of JHU is that it's the only top school that feels the need to prevent some of its applicants from applying.</p>
<p>The committee letter can still have weight if you simply emphasize the right attributes. If an applicant has a 3.2 GPA, then talk about her clinical experience and her motivation to enter medicine and the upward trend in her grades. There's no need to screen applicants in order to boost the weight of the letter. No screening does not mean generic letter.</p>
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And people wonder why I hate premeds even though, as they point out, I am one myself.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I feel obligated to bring this up. </p>
<p>From the Johns Hopkins Newsletter, 3/21/03</p>
<p>Premed</a> office guides students through application process - Features</p>
<p>Although a high percentage of Hopkins students enter planning on medical school, the proportion who end up matriculating into med school is comparable to other top colleges. There seems to be an emphasis on weeding out at the medical school committee process at Hopkins, and as you can see from the article, the head of the committee is unapologetic about this. </p>
<p>If you are one of their top candidates the year you apply, then they will back you 100%. If you are more marginal, then they make it very difficult for you to even attempt to get in med school. As far as I know, this is an unusual attitude among top colleges, and works to the disadvantage of most Hopkins premeds.</p>
<p>I think you should go to Johns Hopkins. Besides what has already been said, you will have more research opportunities at Hopkins than in any other college.</p>
<p>And you have access to JHU Med School.</p>
<p>Not true at all. Also this is undergrad research we're talking about. I'd argue that there's more opportunity for research at a place like Dartmouth or Duke because every student isn't competing for opportunities with you. </p>
<p>Anyway Mahavir the truth is there's no "better" school for pre-med among these. You have to choose for fit.</p>
<p>Hopkins receives more funding for undergraduate research than any other university and there are endless opportunities for exploration. Hopkins is known for research.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/som/students/academics/catalog/mcat07_08/MCAT11b.pdf[/url]”>http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/som/students/academics/catalog/mcat07_08/MCAT11b.pdf</a></p>
<p>Johns Hopkins.</p>
<p>Best chance of getting into Hopkins Medical School, and from this data, other top medical schools as well.</p>
<p>edit: slipper1234:</p>
<p>I don’t see Dartmouth’s student website giving year round offers to undergraduates for research positions and internships with researchers and doctors at top hospitals and medical schools in the country?</p>
<p>and yet Hopkins’ website does 
your argument fails. again.</p>
<p>Hope2getrice, your argument is incorrect on a few levels.</p>
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<li><p>Going to Hopkins, in itself, will not give you a better chance of getting into medical school. Hopkins’ students are a self-selected group of people that had high GPAs and test scores in high school and will have high GPAs and test scores in college. For this reason, people from any good school will have a higher rate of admission to medical school. Med school acceptance rates mean nothing to the individual. A hardworking, smart student who goes to a lower ranked school will have, quid pro quo, an equal chance of getting admitted to medical school provided he/she has a good GPA and MCAT score.</p></li>
<li><p>Hopkins has a committee that discourages weaker applicants from applying to artificially boost their med school acceptance rates. Though a little unfair, this might be good for weak applicants who have little to no chance of getting in anywhere and saves them the trouble and cost of applying only to be rejected. It is not a good practice in any way for borderline applicants. Either way, it inflates Hopkins’ med school acceptance rate.</p></li>
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<p>Med school acceptance rates are a very unreliable and very poor way to choose a college.</p>
<p>Going to Johns Hopkins will NOT get you into a top med school, or med school in general.</p>
<p>Going to Johns Hopkins (or any other school YOU LOVE and where YOU WILL THRIVE), getting a respectable GPA and a good MCAT, being involved in worthwhile activities on campus, doing research (or some other medically-related activity you enjoy) - all of those things will get you into a top med school, or med school in general.</p>