<p>I agree, my post was a response to the holdouts.</p>
<p>Sorry, should have clarified that, but thanks for pointing it out!</p>
<p>"like i said women belong at home raising children and tending to the family and home. They have no business in the work force. This is not to be sexist..."</p>
<p>How is that NOT sexist, goat4d?</p>
<p>TheOneCurlyFry: It's not just that women didn't used to earn money, it's that they didn't used to have money. In the past, men always controlled a women's access to money or property. Before she was married, it was her father, after, her husband. </p>
<p>I feel uncomfortable being paid for, so I always offer to pay for myself. If the man offers to pay on the first couple dates, I usually let him anyway. If he doesn't offer--it's not generally a good sign.</p>
<p>goat4d is on my list of guys to date for a month of free dinners
then dump
:D</p>
<p>and your on my list of women to take on a date and put them in a cage.</p>
<p>j/k</p>
<p>goat4d is right, asian people do rock.</p>
<p>However, I believe that men/women should go dutch on dates. Not only is it "fair", but it also weeds out golddiggers as well :D</p>
<p>the guy pays of course....</p>
<p>We both do. Normally, I'll pay for one thing (like dinner), and he'll pay for the other thing (like a movie), so it all evens out. It's really a non-issue. We don't even think about it anymore.</p>
<p>I don't see why the guy should have to pay for everything. We're both going on the date and both buying things. Plus, we both work, so we both have some money, but neither of us has enough money to pay for everything! </p>
<p>I'd actually be very turned off by a guy who insisted on paying for everything.</p>
<p>Guy always pays: 5
Guy usually pays: 1
Guy pays initially, later 50/50: 5
50/50: 7
Person who asked the other out pays: 2
Girls always pays: 1
If date going badly, girl pays: 1
Miscellaneous systems: 1</p>
<p>Guy pays.. w/o a doubt its a gentleman like thing to do. i paid for my ex-gfs tickets, food etc. it costed me hundreds but still its what a guy should do.</p>
<p>It's not what a guy should do. That's unfair to guys.</p>
<p>I'm a girl, I pay for every date :). I have money and my bf is broke, so it's only fair.</p>
<p>I concur that it is the gentlemanly way to act.</p>
<p>If a guy doesn't pay first date, I must admit that it does not leave a good impression. It makes it seem like he just doesn't care enough and why should I waste my time on him?</p>
<p>After the first date, though, I think it's good for the girl to pay too. I like doing the whole he buys the ticket and I'll buy popcorn and drinks thing that was mentioned earlier.</p>
<p>I (a guy) like to pay. Not only is it the genteel thing to do, I think of it as a small way to show the people in my life that I care about them. That being said, if a girl or friend wants to take me out-- "his/her treat"-- I'm all for it.</p>
<p>Why can't a girl show that she cares about the guy by paying for him? It's just old tradition.</p>
<p>My physical appearance is alright, but when I open my mouth, I talk waaaaay too much, so, this is the only experience I've had so far.</p>
<p>My date actually ASKED me if I would like him to pay. Lol. I said, being polite, no. And we each paid for ourselves.</p>
<p>I have a friend whose boyfriend was extremely mooching off of her (asking her to pay for his little brother's birthday present etc...) and she said she didn't feel bad with paying, but just the fact that he's so broke and lazy to find a job turned her off. They had alot more problems after and broke up.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Don't mooch off your bf/gf.</p>
<p>My opinion: first date, guy should pay. Just to show that genteel/ chivalry thing that girls love. After it becomes a mutual relationship, 50/50.</p>
<p>matt damon</p>
<p>Guy pays on the first date unless the girl really insists, and then they start splitting the check, or alternating once they are bf and gf. It's always nice if the guy picks up stuff like movies, etc, too.</p>
<p>I'm a girl and I hate the type of guys who insist on paying for everything...it's almost too gentlemanly, like they think of me on a lower level. I like a little old fashion behavior, but to a point.</p>
<p>It may also depend on money. I end up paying for stuff more than my bf because I have more available money than he does. He's not a mooch or a deadbeat, just has a low paying job while in school and I'm lucky to have help from parents.</p>
<p>I'm a girl and I think the guy should pay, especially for the first date. My b/f and I have been together for a year and a half and he pays normally if he's been paid recently. He works a good deal at a decent job, but has a lot of family obligations. Sometimes we pay separately (a la I buy dinner you buy movies) and sometimes I pay if we really want to go out and do something(and he doesn't have enough). I really don't mind and/or care at this point because he does so much for me that it's a way for me to give something back =). But, on the whole, we don't go on "dates" much, he just comes over and watches movies with me and we go to the park a lot. So we really don't have the money issue as much as we used to. We prefer just talking and spending time together rather than being out at a movie and/or loud dinner. </p>
<p>So, I think for the first two dates the guy should pay, but after that it should be decided together and more based off of ability to pay, etc. </p>
<p>Although, I have to add that my b/f would prefer to pay for everything, I think he feels "guilty" when he doesn't even if I say it's ok because of how he was raised.</p>