<p>Cpt-
I am guessing that the OP's dau's stats are probably in the high 600-700 range (per section). That would probably make her a match for Vassar moreso than a reach.</p>
<p>Sooze-
Yes, we keep bringing up Goucher. I agree its a great safety. You (or someone) also suggested Muhlenberg. Another good suggestion. Too bad Dickinson got nixed. It is anothe good safety.</p>
<p>Fordham University would be a solid match for this student, and because the school is Jesuit, it's more liberal. I know several psychologists who graduated from Fordham. But housing is a bit tight, and financial aid not overly generous, from what I've heard.</p>
<p>If her stats are where Jym says they are, Fordham will come up with merit money. I agree that Fordham is a good pick. Housing would be provided for someone coming outside of commuting distance. It's the locals that can get shut out.</p>
<p>Since she was looking in Boston before, Clark in Worcester has a good psychology program and you can do a semester abroad in Madrid or Seville. It would probably be a safety and has some merit money.</p>
<p>Fordham sounds good too. I don't know if they still do it, but when I was applying they paid for me to visit and I was much more impressed with it than I had expected to be. They also offered me a great merit package, but I heard other people had been disappointed by what they offered.</p>
<p>Vassar would be more of a high match, but a lot of people who like Brown also really like Vassar.</p>
<p>tli-
Yes- Clark is a great suggestion. A lot of very well known psychologists were affiliated with Clark.</p>
<p>Is Clark big on school spirit, though? I did not get that feeling. Vassar would not fall in that category either.</p>
<p>Agree about Clark for Cindy's daughter!</p>
<p>With regard to Vassar which is not a match or safety, I also am surprised it did not make her list since she likes Brown. Not as hard to get into as Brown. It could be a borderline reach/match but I have no idea as hardly any information on this student's profile has been shared and so it is a guessing game to rate her chances.</p>
<p>Many Clark students complain about the location of the school & the heavy drinking culture on campus. I do not think that Clark is a school that the OP's daughter would like if she didn't like the surroundings of Lehigh University, especially since she liked Wm. & Mary and Georgetown environments.
Your daughter's list is fine.</p>
<p>Any suggestions for someone who loves the south with these stats and needs full (or almost) ride? Need a fresh look at list of Washington & Lee, UVA, William & Mary, Clemson, Furman, UGA, GaTech, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt. Stats: 1/500 class rank, 2330 SAT, NMSF, ap scholar with distinction, pres of club, lots of volunteer hours,
thanks to any posters!</p>
<p>miltonmom-
You might want to start a separate thread rather than take this one off topic.</p>
<p>Post #190: Your list is fine. Look into the Foundation Fellows program at the Univ. of Georgia.</p>
<p>Hoo boy. I think we need to steer clear of Goucher, American, GW. These schools are too close. You'll notice that the only DC-ish schools on the list are UMD and Georgetown. That is because she is willing to swallow hard on the proximity question to attend a cool school like Georgetown or for a match like UMD. For a safety, she'd rather have some distance. She dislikes Baltimore quite a lot also. I don't understand this; I just roll with it.</p>
<p>Part of the problem with Dickinson is that it is very white. Muhelenberg (sp) seems to have the same issue.</p>
<p>Does Fordham have a campus? I think I remember her saying it was unappealing for this reason, but I might be misremembering. I'll have another look . . . .</p>
<p>miltonmom-
Lots of great scholarship offers, many with near or full ride opportunities at Vandy, Emory (Emory Scholars) Tulane, U of Alabama, UNC- Ch Hill, Duke, etc in additon to your list, but again, this probably deserves a separate thread, as your situation is different than the OP's here.</p>
<p>Fordham has two campuses: Lincoln Center & Rose Hill, which is in the Bronx.</p>
<p>Fordham has an enclosed campus at Rosehill that is very much a traditional college campus. Also lots of school spirit for sports. A bonus is the Ramvan that gives students easy access to the Lincoln Center Campus and downtown Manhattan which is also easily accessed by bus, train and subway. A diverse student population, yet very traditional. Does not scream Catholicism, though it is a Catholic school. I still think American is a good bet. My son liked it better than GT. Liked GW better than GT too.</p>
<p>Cindy-</p>
<p>With all due respect, I am finding myself wondering who is the one dropping back and punting all the suggestions? Please...... there are reasons to look further into schools, not to so quickly reject them. You've gotten lots of great suggestions here. Your daughter should meet with her college counselor to discuss these suggestions so she can identify a few more safe schools, especially with the many great ideas offered here.</p>
<p>Aw, Jym, I'm enjoying this. Also getting ideas for a young lady who needs help that I know.</p>
<p>cindy...I realize you are dealing with a teenager, LOL. Still, the reasoning should be discussed. If she is willing to go to school close to home such as Georgetown or UMD, then perhaps she can fudge on the location of Goucher (not ideal) but it might have five "pros" in the pro column that match up with her other selection criteria. Most colleges are not going to match up with EVERY selection criteria a kid has. So, if they have ten things they want in a college, and they can find some colleges that meet six of those criteria, they are worth putting on the list. She doesn't have to ATTEND...she just is APPLYING. When her options are handed her in spring, she can hopefully have choices and pick the schools that match MORE of her selection criteria than other schools. But at least she'll have some place to go, that matches SOME of her criteria. If she is willing to live in the DC region, I don't think she can make a strong case against a school in that region. Same with the snow issue you mentioned earlier...if she is willing to attend Brown or Northwestern, she should look at other snowy schools like Brandeis, Bates, Syracuse, Skidmore, Sarah Lawrence, U of Rochester.</p>
<p>Also, as I mentioned earlier, if your D doesn't get into her reaches (very common scenario) and doesn't want to "settle" for her safeties, then the upshot is that she needs some matches and if these don't fit her exactly ideally, and she is unwilling to add these, her final outcome may mean going to a much less ideal school in her mind. So, it makes rational sense to add some less than perfect matches but schools she'd like more than her safeties. You gotta look at the final outcome. If she is not in love with College of Charleston or UMD, and the reaches don't come through...what's she got? It would make sense to have matches where some might come through and where it is MORE ideal than the safeties to her, even if not perfect in every way. And she doesn't even know how great it will be...she has to visit.....she is judging these schools and experiences on far too little of a basis to truly KNOW.</p>
<p>LOL, cpt. Glad the suggestions are helpful. </p>
<p>Trying to identify a schoool or schools that fit all of these requirements to a T (exaggerating a bit, I know.. but for a reason) is an exercise in futility. Someone many pages back made a great suggestion (an I am now paraphrasing)- to look at the list of criteria and decide which are "gotta haves" and which are "it would be nice if..". Am I the only one feeling like I am banging my head against a wall???? I understand OP's frustration, but I am not sure who is causing it. If OP's dau is really going to summarily reject these schools because the flowers arent pretty enough in front of the main building (just a silly example) then its tough to try to come up wih reasonable suggestions in the face of unreasonable or unrealistic criteria.</p>