Dean's Scholar...where is it?

<p>How do you know if you got the $10,000 Dean's scholar? I got 3 letters (Acceptance letter, Reply letter, Letter that has many events listed on it) and the Fordham reply envelope.</p>

<p>I read all but I don't think that I read it anywhere...?</p>

<p>i didnt get the deans i got full tuition and there was a second letter from the dean of admission saying i got it.</p>

<p>So if you didn’t get another letter that means you didn’t get a scholarship/full tuition? :/</p>

<p>I dont think an 1890 SAT, while a very good score, is Dean’s List Scholarship level. Sorry. Not saying it wont happen, just saying its not likely. But if you file a CSS you may get a handsome grant that approximates a scholarship level award if you have the financial need.</p>

<p>If no scholarship was indicated in the acceptance letter I just received today, is there no chance of receiving the Dean’s scholarship at a further time?</p>

<p>@ghostbuster: Thanks for your answer. Yes I did file the CSS. I am low income and hope that I will be able to afford Fordham. :s</p>

<p>I have a 2090/4.72W and no scholarship. Disappointing…</p>

<p>Good…and follow up Silence with the FAFSA in January. Sometimes grants (if you have need) can be as generous as a Dean’s Scholarship. </p>

<p>College has now become outrageously expensive for most families. There are serious societal structural problems I see, meanwhile the middle class gets hammered and squeezed, the poor either don’t go to college at all or get lots of aid, and the rich simply don’t care or get scholarship funds. Sadly, Fordham’s tuition/room/board have doubled in ten years. I know very, very few middle class families with 200,000 sitting around the house just waiting to be spent on a college education for one child,let alone two or three kids. </p>

<p>Its ominous. Meanwhile we see evidence of people who dont need the money, getting all sorts of aid and/or scholarships and its most disturbing and disheartening. Its a national scandal. </p>

<p>I wish everyone the very best luck and hopefully sufficient financial aid or scholarship money to afford a Fordham education. Its a fabulous school.</p>

<p>Amber: the scholarship picture is not finished now. READ THE THREADS HERE COMPLETELY. There are some initial offers to outstanding students with uber stats (2100 and up) and some later offers to students below that figure. It also depends on your CORE SAT scores…while a high writing score will help you excel at Fordham, if you dont have a high CR and Math score, you may not get a scholarship. File the CSS and FAFSA if you need money.</p>

<p>@ghostbuster: Since you are a Fordham alumni, could you please give me a vague estimate of what a family with an income of 45,000 would receive in financial aid? (Just from what you heard other people with similar Incomes getting)</p>

<p>@ghostbuster</p>

<p>Based on this quote from the website, I was under the impression that all national merit semifinalists qualified for the full tuition scholarship granted that they are in good academic standing otherwise:</p>

<p>“Nominees are freshmen graduating from high school in the top 1% of their class, or semifinalists in the National Merit, National Achievement or Hispanic Recognition competitions who are also in the top 10% of their class.”</p>

<p>I am a semifinalist, but I got the Dean’s scholarship. Is there a chance to get this later?</p>

<p>ynwa18 – I’m experiencing the same confusion! After reading that quote on the website, I was under the same impression regarding my standing as a NMSC semi-finalist, and pretty disappointed that I heard nothing of any scholarship at all. If anyone has any insight, I’d really appreciate it! Thanks. (I have 2160 SAT and am 3/235 in my class, with AP’s all the rest of the blahblahblah.)</p>

<p>Sandrascrr, you got full tuition with 33act and 3.97? Those are impressive stats for sure, but according to the site, they only give out full tuition to the top 20 applicants.</p>

<p>Congratulations to the accepted applicants! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I know it’s hard but you are all going to have to wait to get the full financial aid offer from Fordham to see if it’s affordable or not. Knowing that you got a scholarship at this point doesn’t really give a clear picture except if you got full tuition. Even a $10k Dean’s scholarship is just a drop in the bucket as to what it costs to go to Fordham. There are other awards available…need based awards AND merit based awards. You really can’t know what it will cost until you get your package and you’ll probably have to file the FAFSA before they put it together and send it out. I recommend that you attend the open house if you can, first to see if Fordham is the right fit for you, but also because you can take the opportunity to meet with a financial aid counselor. </p>

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<p>So gb, not to pick a fight with you, but I don’t have a problem with Fordham or any other school doling out merit money to students that they feel will enhance their community regardless of income. It’s a prize for doing well…why should high income high achievers not be eligible? There are plenty of scholarships out there that also require proof of need. I just don’t think it’s necessary for ALL of them. Hopefully some of the high income high achievers will not only donate directly to the needy but they will also donate to Fordham making improvements to the school and adding money to the “pool.”</p>

<p>Just adding that I DO have a problem with people who don’t need the money getting financial aid because they’ve cheated the system. And I totally agree THAT is a scandal.</p>

<p>Thanks for that clarity, sandkmom. I was thinking that Fordham has higher tuition costs than Harvard, and $10,000 is, like you said, a drop in the bucket. I am middle class, so no way will I qualify for need based aid. But on the other hand, 43,000+ a year is too steep for my family.</p>

<p>Agreed “Just adding that I DO have a problem with people who don’t need the money getting financial aid because they’ve cheated the system. And I totally agree THAT is a scandal.”</p>

<p>There is definitely a place for Merit aid, irrespective of financial need, for gifted and/or hardworking students.</p>

<p>^^^Arent the Marit based schaolships for anyone who ha very high SAT/ACT grades?</p>

<p>A bit disappointed that SAT is worth more than 4 years of GPA.</p>

<p>Its the brutal reality of life in college admissions. The schools explain it (or try) by stating there is too much variance in gpa’s and what grades mean from school to school (grade inflation and grade deflation issues), whereas the SAT is in theory objective. So it is what it is. </p>

<p>Again, while your stats are good, they are not Dean’s Scholarship (likely) level. Its not a slap at you or a comment about your success at Fordham. In fact, I can tell you that my D1 didnt get Dean’s Scholarship either. But she has excelled (and I mean really excelled) at Fordham. And that, at the end of the day, is the ultimate way of proving yourself. I would much rather be coming out of Fordham with a superb gpa in an honors program than simply telling friends and neighbors you got a scholarship to attend Fordham and then having to mumble, “well I did okay when I was there…” And kids on scholarship have to maintain a high GPA to keep it. Some have not done so and lost it and had to leave for financial reasons. (Ive seen it at other schools too, btw.) </p>

<p>SAT scores, we all know, are not a very good predictor of success in college. They are a predictor of scholarships at best. The BEST indicator of success in college IS your High School GPA and your work ethic, specifically your writing and analysis skills.</p>

<p>Your scholarship award is not final until after regular decision notices are sent out in April.</p>

<p>Many people received the 10,000 dean’s award in December, but that increased to 20,000-30,000 by April. Make sure to discuss your situation and desire to attend fordham with financial aid. See what they recommend you do.</p>

<p>Fordham may be the 18th most expensive school, but it also has a very high discount rate (the average percent taken off of the ticket price). In fact, Fordham’s discount rate is higher than Georgetown and BC.</p>

<p>Only the top 20 applicants receive the presidential scholarship which is full tuition AND board. Many more applicants will receive full tuition, through national merit or other means.</p>

<p>^^^^ well…lets be careful here about suggesting “everyone gets lots of money” or a similar notion. Its simply not the case. Fordham ranks very low year in and year out about meeting financial needs of students. SOME kids get oodles of money (and some of them dont need the money…they come from wealthy families and attended prestigious prep schools) and a lot of kids who fall below the general threshold of 1400 SATs for scholarship money, get left in the cold. It is true that kids with uber high stats can get scholarships increased, but many also don’t see any increase at all. And some are told that the Dean’s scholarship is it and if they need more money to get loans or go elsewhere. Seen that happen and was posted here in year’s past by several kids. Someone in my hometown was told that and DID go elsewhere…George Washington.</p>

<p>So while I agree everyone should relax and enjoy the acceptance letter/package they have and not panic just yet, we also have to be certain to advise them to be realistic and compare offers from all their schools.</p>

<p>My daughter has a 1420 SAT two-way, and at 2140 three-way, with a 3.99 SAT, and was admitted with no scholarship offer. We are very disappointed. We submitted the CSS profile, and I am sure they determined that we don’t have “need,” but, really, who doesn’t?</p>