<p>Hi Guys! I have to debate the following topic:</p>
<p>Juveniles charged with violent crimes should be tried and ounished as adults.</p>
<p>Anybody have any good pro or con arguments or statistics I could use to help build my case?</p>
<p>he he, LD. I suck at LD, so if I had any advice, you'd be wise not to take it.</p>
<p>lol. Yeah well ditricts are sneaking up on me and Im having a hard time with this just because it is a mostly an issue of morality. not very many stats or facts i can use though.</p>
<p>Pshhh. LD.
Only one step above PFD.</p>
<p>Policy=Real Debate</p>
<p>Maybe you could argue that it's not the age that's important, but the ability to discern between "right" and "wrong."(these rather general terms being, of course, defined by the law and on a broader sense what is accepted by society)</p>
<p>One obvious con argument is that if you can't vote, you shouldn't be tried as an adult--the rights can't be separated from the responsibilities. The general reasoning would be that until you have a say in what the laws are, as an adult does, to try you as an adult would be... erm, imprisonment without representation?</p>
<p>^yeah i had that one. but mostly, what I need it facts and statistics. solid evidence over inferences as theories.</p>
<p>i wish we could do policy without a partner...</p>
<p>I have lost a break round b4 because my partner left for a band competition...It was finals...</p>
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<p>For all you policy guys, LD RULES POLICY DROOLS. It's for real men...you can't get a partner to depend on in LD!</p>
<p>i'd do policy also (instead of LD) if you didn't need a partner.</p>
<p>Lollipop. There isn't much solid evidence because each state's punishing juveniles is different. And some states have juvenile systems and then sometimes can defer a juvenile to an adult court, and rehabilitation successes differ too. Even defining juveniles is different. What really defines a juvenile and adult? Uh the magic 18 years old in the US, or maybe You turn adult when you commit a "violent crime". Or a set biological clock when we reach full maturity. </p>
<p>I did this topic at region recently, Stats won't help build your case much. Start from your value premise and value criterion.</p>
<p>The thing is, NOTHING in this res. makes it US-specific, so your opponent can argue that juveniles are "individuals whose parents have declared them as adults in a court of law" (ie Renaissance Europe).</p>
<p>yea but the resolution is for one governed body. i dont know, that seems like an iffy approach.</p>
<p>Not wanting to point or discourage your direction, I faced several Kant's Categorical Imperative. "Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it would become a universal law."</p>
<p>Next, if you want suggestions, go to lddebate.org, lddebate.com, etc. those sites have pretty experienced debaters. If you're novice, you'll find it quite useful especially when you won't use the case ever again to put it online and let people tear it apart.</p>
<p>This will only end up in digression, but I wholehearted agree with Smoke&Mirrors.</p>