<p>UC_BENZ, if you dont have the capability to debate then dont do so. Lets others debate.</p>
<p>I made personal attacks and i am sorry for it. I deserve an apology from you too regarding the personal attack you made at the Debate 2 post.</p>
<p>please continue debating if you can</p>
<p>WHY WOULD I USE ANOTHER CC NAME?????</p>
<p>What? Get a life? You do need to get a life if you have enough time to create multiple user names. Do you and your brother share the same screen name?</p>
<p>What? Get a life? You do need to get a life if you have enough time to create multiple user names. Do you and your brother share the same screen name?</p>
<p>you are just continuing to make personal attacks. YES WE DO HAVE THE SAME SCREEN NAME. Any problem? We go to the same high school and have the same friends. Understand? Good.</p>
<p>just because you cant make a coherent argument to my posts doent mean that you have to ruin the debate. You dont know anything about my personal life so stop making conclusions about it. i was mature enough to apologise for making personal attacks. Arent you satisfied? You made personal attacks but you wont apologise will you?</p>
<p>And werent you the one who was making a big deal out of Kerry's military record. Well I can give a COHERENT response to that if you want me to.</p>
<p>I am trying my best to settle the conflicy between us but if you cant cooperate, then there is nothing more I can do.</p>
<p>I can't reason with a person who does not use reason himself.</p>
<p>Well let's see, according to you 3 different people use your screen name. That is REALLY sad if you even have 3 names. There is primitive, concealed, and seth_blue. Don't even try to get out of that one. YOU even IM'd me multiple times.</p>
<p>This was on 3/30/2005, a Wednesday:
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Greensoap6 (8:07:18 PM): hey. its seth blue.
Greensoap6 (8:07:23 PM): r u there?
...
Greensoap6 (8:08:52 PM): primitive and tennistennis thrashed you guys
Greensoap6 (8:09:02 PM): you guys lost bad!
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<p>From 3/27/2005, a Sunday:
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**Greensoap6 (12:46:09 PM): **its gone quite out of hand
**Greensoap6 (12:46:46 PM): **i thought Bush was the main topic, but now primitive wants to talk about kerry
**Greensoap6 (12:46:52 PM): **he seems confident
**Greensoap6 (12:46:59 PM): **to defend kerry
**Greensoap6 (12:47:04 PM): **what do you think?
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<p>Good ole' DeadAIM and the message logging feature. Now everyone can see for themselves the fraud that you are.</p>
<p>"I strongly disagree. Even the UN confirmed that Iraq had no WMD. But rather North Korea and Iran did. Go figure!!"</p>
<p>A war in North Korea would prove VERY costly. They have a much larger military force than Iraq and much better weapons. I saw a video of them firing these missiles and there was so many it was crazy.</p>
<p>"you are just continuing to make personal attacks."</p>
<p>Obviously he is arleady ****ed off about now so goodluck trying to stop what you've started.</p>
<p>ElCommando, shut the hell up for the sake of all that is good.</p>
<p>No. What am I annoying you now? Oh Im sorry.</p>
<p>and everyone who is still b*tching about kerry being a flipflopper needs to shut up. he changed his opinion about 1 ISSUE.</p>
<p>No I believe it was more than that. Hmmmm the Iraq war, Vietnam, 87 billion dollar plan to provide supplies to troops (He said to support the troops but not Bush and yet he voted NO to this plan)</p>
<p>Elcommando, I dont think i need to take your posts seriously AS YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DONT THINK BEFORE YOU POST.</p>
<p>I was talking about the one thing. </p>
<p>"Because he would cater to them and make everything easier for them. It is the people of America who decide our president. NOT 30 Other Countries!!! (uc_benz)
I WANT PROOF!! (primitive)</p>
<p>Ok primitive i have proof. (me)</p>
<p>I support U.S. participation in the International Criminal Court, but also believe that U.S. officials, including soldiers, should be
provided some protection from politically motivated prosecutions.
- John Kerry, Peace Action Candidate Questionnaire response, Spring 2004</p>
<p>Do you know what the criminal court is primitive? (hey me again)
<a href="http://www.amicc.org/docs/Bush-Kerry%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.amicc.org/docs/Bush-Kerry%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf</a></p>
<p>I guess you could consider this post nonsense if you dont know how to answer it.</p>
<p>whos to say he wasnt pretending to be "User_Name" also lol</p>
<p>uc_benz, WHAT IS THAT? IS that one of you schemes to frame me ? hehehe. Good job.</p>
<p>Thanks, I thought so too. You should really learn to cover your trails.</p>
<p>You should take your fellow troll hilary with you too.</p>
<p>wow UC_BENZ YOU NEED A LIFE!!!! I CANT BELIEVE YOU TOOK ALL THAT TIME TO DO THAT!!! </p>
<p>GET A LIFE!!!! You made this debate personal, and i am now willing to the same.</p>
<p>A never expected any less from a true Republican!!!</p>
<p>A never expected any less from a true Republican!!!</p>
<p>Well whatever because we expected this ***** from you Liberals.</p>
<p>Reply to my post above? Or is it still incomprehensible.</p>
<p>HILARY's POST:
Quote:
"as usual ElCommando is making no sense and BCgoUSC is pretending to be jesus"
YES good for you hilary you just blasted me so bad. I guess you wont be responding to anything i say? I thought we were refraining from personal attacks?</p>
<p>ElCommando, shut the hell up for the sake of all that is good.
if you have a single educated response to ANY of the points i made, THEN you can talk. so far you pretty much havent said anything i could legitimitely respond to, you just whined about being "personally attacked" and said other non-sensical things.</p>
<p>Quote:
"have them tell me to go to hell"
FUNNY YOU SHOULD MENTION IT hhboyji.</p>
<p>you are disgusting ElCommando... talk about personal attacks...</p>
<p>Quote:
"Kerry ENLISTED to fight in one of the most dangerous wars America has participated in, yet Bush managed to have his dad pull strings so that he could avoid serving his country. In addition, Bush lied about Iraq. You call that honorable? Whatever floats your boat."
Yeah he did enlist and then after the war he flip-flopped. Most dangerous? Sorry buddy thats world war 2.</p>
<p>clearly ElCommando fought bravely in both wars, so his opinion about which one was more dangerous means a lot to me.</p>
<p>Quote:
George W. Bush does what he does based on CONVICTIONS. You may not AGREE with his convictions, and that's OK, but I think he's shown time and time again that he could care less what the polls show.</p>
<p>last i checked we live in a democracy. a democratic leader acts based on the wants and needs of the people, he doesnt rule stubbornly with his own ridiculous convictions like a dictator. i dont see how ANYONE, republican OR democrat, would want to be led by someone who "could care less" about their opinions.</p>
<p>and everyone who is still b*tching about kerry being a flipflopper needs to shut up. he changed his opinion about 1 ISSUE, like TONS of people probably did. at least he is willing to admit when hes wrong rather than stubbornly sticking with idiotic viewpoints like bush. and clearly bush is far worse than kerry in his "flip-flopping" (what a stupid term). see primitive's post. can we please stop debating a dead issue and beating a dumb term into the ground? thanks.</p>
<p>PRIMITIVE's POST:
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! uc_benz, dares to include quotes about kerry while he STILL hasnt responded to the 32 quotes about Bush.</p>
<p>and BCgoUSC, I disagree with you. Bush was the flip-flopper on every topic that dominating our politics. I provided you with 32 examples, I challenge you to find more quotes in Kerry's case. I guarantee you that you wont find as much.</p>
<p>uc_benz, you are weakening. I proposed to debate on Bush's economic policy but you seemed to chicken out.</p>
<p>Elcommando, I dont think i need to take your posts seriously AS YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DONT THINK BEFORE YOU POST.</p>
<p>WELL, WE ALL CAN TELL WHO's THE UNEDUCATED SPEAKER HERE!!</p>
<p>UC_BENZ, like primitive said, get a life. Can you teach me how you made up that conversation so that I can frame you? heheh</p>
<p>It took me 5 seconds. It's called Ctrl-V. Do you want me to take a snapshot of my DeadAIM logging screen for you? Oh wait, I don't care if you believe me or not. I'm sure other people do. You know you're caught, just admit it.</p>
<p>In the words of the mature, immortal primitive/concealed/seth_blue:
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and everyone who is still b*tching about kerry being a flipflopper needs to shut up.
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<p>I'm laughing :D</p>
<p>For the convience of those who don't want to search the thread to see why primitive/concealed/seth_blue is running with his tail in between his legs, refer to this post: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=667200&postcount=285%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=667200&postcount=285</a></p>
<p>You're 17, be a man. Admit when you're wrong.</p>
<p>Cool uc_benz, can you teach me how to do that? Neat trick</p>
<p>Well, I'm convinced that primitive and concealed are the same person.. just give it up already. This was actually fun to read at first.</p>
<p>how can we be the same person when primitive is my brother?</p>
<p>"America was not wrong to go to war with Iraq. The world is safer as a result. The problem with liberals is that you'd wait until after America was attacked again before taking any action. It's obvious that Iraq was a threat to the world, not just to America. The second reason (liberation) just makes the invasion of Iraq even more meaningful."</p>
<p>I call bull ****.
The world is not safer. There were no connections between Saddam HUssien and 9/11 and Al Qaeda ( as hard as the master manipulators of the Bush regime tried to do) but you're saying that we are safer? Look at how many innocent civilians have died as a result of America's belligerent policy in Iraq. A son who has lost both his mother and father is a faulty bomb has a reason and will to help the insurgency and possibly participate in a terrorist act, yet you are saying we are safer?
Hussien was a problem, but a localized one. Iraq was better in terms of terrorism before the war, but now, its practically a breeding ground.
And please tell me, aside from that one photo op of the "purple finger" are the Iraqi people more liberated?
Iraq had nothing, face it.</p>
<p>"I wasn't debating no one, I was just arguing how far liberals in America are going over the whole separation of church and state issue. And you agreed that a kid shouldn't be suspended for praying in school, just as school shouldn't impose kids to pray. So we're finished with that issue, right?"
Regardless of how far us liberals are taking it, it would be more dangerous if there weren't efforts to seperate it. Do you hoenstly believe that religion has a positive role to play in politics?</p>
<p>UC_Benz, the same way you accuse me and concealed of being the same person, I can similarly accuse you and Elcommando of being the same person.</p>
<p>So there is no need to make a fool out of yourself. I rather challenge you debate. </p>
<p>tennistennis, i agree with you . Iraq was no potential threat. if anyone can prove me wrong, please do so!!!</p>
<p>Iraq was a threat. Again, though, there is no sense debating it, because we are all convinced we're 100% right and no one is going to change anyone's opinion.</p>