<p>I’m forced to agree with csmith27.</p>
<p>Especially with getting accepted EA, which is so much more competitive than RA.</p>
<p>First, this is a place to gain information, not bash other people’s resumes and target them as liars. Also, this is an informal setting and not a place for high academic writing. If you take him at his word, it would not surprise me that he was accepted EA. I don’t see why we must immediately jump to the affirmative action conclusion. Admissions is a very complicated procedure.</p>
<p>Deferred EA…</p>
<p>This is a place to gain information - i’m just trying to decide between true and false information. I just am completely against affirmative action in every way and it angers me when I see someone with less credentials than me getting accepted because of their race. (most likely because of their race - it was probably the factor that put him over)</p>
<p>I’m not trying to sound harsh and I’m definitely not trying to insult anyone - I apologize if that’s how it came off. It’s just that his stats are very good, but I’m just upset Notre Dame would consider him a “sure-thing” EA applicant with scores/GPA like that, while I’m being deferred to regular action. If I were an admissions counselor looking at this resume (and believed it), I would vote for denial. Everyone has their strong points, but so many applicants that got deferred/denied have way better academic credentials than he does. In my head, it doesn’t make sense to me.</p>
<p>I understand the diversity crisis of almost every university - but I think Notre Dame (and all colleges) should accept people based on their credentials and ability to succeed at the college instead of their race or background. </p>
<p>One more thing - if he honestly thought that he got accepted on his own merits instead of his race, he wouldn’t have included his race on his post. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that what he has posted is actually true.</p>
<p>But you’re right - he must be a really unique and special student…I don’t really know of many people who has ever gotten a 579 on their SAT’s.</p>
<p>Take what you want from his information - either believe him and go from there, or do not and continue the application process - if you truly doubt his information (which his SAT score may indicate), then simply ignore his posts - All I am saying is that if his credentials are true, then I can see him being admitted, though as you say, I would have doubted EA. </p>
<p>Good Luck throughout the process - it is one that is extremely frustrating and not an easy one emotionally. Best of luck and I hope you can use other pieces of information to piece together you search - though if you do think he is lying - please don’t dock Notre Dame any because of one individual who may or may not have been accepted. Notre Dame is a great school, trust me, and one person should not change your decision.</p>
<p>i dont think you can get a 579 on the sat… -_-;</p>
<p>no you cannot lol</p>
<p>I’m definitely not hating on Notre Dame - nearly all universities do the same thing, so it’s something out of my control. It’s more of a social issue than one specifically with ND. Notre Dame is still my top-choice dream school, and I doubt that anything could change my decision to go there (besides a rejection letter, of course lol)</p>
<p>But yeah, these next few months will be nerve wracking. I’ll be surprised if I don’t get an ulcer or two before the end of March!</p>
<p>Best of Luck, csmith27, and I know the feeling all to well.</p>
<p>I would think that, although ECs are an important part of one’s application, the student’s GPA and test scores would take top priority because they can actually be confirmed by the university (since the test scores and transcripts are sent to the school). Anyone can overexagerate (and possibly even falsify) his/her ECs because they aren’t confirmed by ND. Also, the time commitment and actual mission of the EC may not be as valued as the applicant might make them to be - so although ECs are definitely a part of the package, I don’t believe that they have as much importance as one’s grades and test scores.</p>
<p>Just my opinion…</p>
<p>shyman is either the real deal and a very talented writer or just someone busting chops (highly likely since an extraordinary gifted writer would not be on this website writing all of these postings). Either way, I would not spend any time on this. </p>
<p>What I want to know is what percentage of Deferred Actions get offers. At least Georgetown was nice enough to advise the percentage is only 10%.</p>
<p>Thanks Hawk. & leoti, I definitely agree with you. Notre Dame is a school above all else and academics should take priority, not ECs or race or any other factor.</p>
<p>I would also like to know how many deferred get accepted…but I think for my own sake it might be better not to compare myself to every applicant before I find out. I’ll probably just end up driving myself crazy</p>
<p>I agree with leoti. But I like how American colleges do focus on ECs although they have potential to be falsified. Korean colleges (I’m Korean and I’m not comparing to be a meanie here) mostly focus on GPA and scores only. Thats why students are so damn serious abt scores. Also, korean students are never given a second chance. Whereas tests like the ACT and SAT can be taken multiple times to refine the scores, the Korean University Placement test can only be taken once. If you bomb it… there goes your scores…and it will definitely affect where you will be accepted.
Although there are incident where some decisions can be unfair… i’d much prefer the American college system to the Korean system…
Btw, happy early christmas guys! haha</p>
<p>YEA i too want to know the percentage of deferred students being accepted in the RD pool!</p>
<p>I would email your counselor - I have no idea…Good luck!</p>
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<p>I kwow this doesn’t directly answer your question but maybe this post can give you more info on the application numbers.</p>
<p>And these are the numbers for the official 2009 admissions:</p>
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<p>Good luck to all of you!!</p>
<p>Thank You…bostonvillanova I AM THE REAL DEAL… There reason why I posted that I am black because a part of me (and yes I am admitting it) know that m race contributing to my acceptance no matter how you look at it, my race played a role whether I wanted it or not. I just feel bad for those with better profile who did not get in. I mean I took the ACT’s again after some help with the Princeton Review prep course at my school and got a 34…so i do not know if that will make you guys feel better(Notre Dame did not seem my score yet but i sent it to them because I was sure I would be deffered.)</p>