Desperately in need of advice

<p>OP:</p>

<p>If you are an NYC HS kid, then someone at your school must know about CUNY admissions and possibly any GPA minimum standards. If your are on a numbered grade average then your average is 69.52 and NOT 1.4. If you can get that to a 70.0 or above, then it sounds much less alarming.</p>

<p>Your best bet within the CUNY’s is Queens College. If you can manage to get in there you can major in business or economics or whatever you like. However if you take a pre-engineering curriculum, with 2 years math and one year of physics and chemistry both with labs, then you can transfer to Columbia in a 3-2 engineering program IF you maintain a GPA of 3.3 at Queens (transfer guaranteed). Then you can obtain a BS from Columbia in CS or in an engineering discipline with a Queens BA after five years. CUNY City College is easier than Queens and it’s possible you’ll be admitted there also, but only Queens has 3-2 engineering. City offers engineering majors.</p>

<p>You might try Fordham to see if they’ll admit you as a NYC charity case Stuyvesant drop-out, especially given your decent SAT scores. Incidentally, your SAT’s (CR 670, M 760) are high enough for Cornell which is one of several places that don’t even look at writing test scores. Writing test scores have been shown to be an inaccurate in measuring writing abilities. Also the writing test can be studied for by learning the rules of grammar. There have been cases of 150+ point improvement just from grammar study.</p>

<p>Another expensive idea is to spend a year as a post-graduate student at a private boarding school. Some of the lesser known ones may admit you despite your grades and put you in a much better position to apply to college if you make a big grade improvement during your year. Some will force you into study hall. These cost $33-45K per year with room and board. E.g. Mercersburg, Cheshire, etc. You have missed 200 days of school and a PG year makes sense.</p>

<p>My senior year grades are pretty decent, I had above 90 averages in three classes first quarter (97, 94, 92) with the 92 being in AP Comp Sci.</p>

<p>Also, Freshman year was my “best” (not saying much) year. I’ve noticed that ever since I came to this school district in the 5th grade my grades fell from 97’s and have rapidly fallen since. Additionally, my standardised testing scores are all ~90’s/high 80’s if that helps at all.</p>

<p>I guess I could try to receive help, I’m underaged though so I don’t know if my parents would go for that. They’ve always been a fan of “natural medicine” and “getting healed naturally”, that kind of BS.</p>

<p>If I did send my transcript to “known” colleges, what are the chances they’ll deny it automatically? Don’t think I saw an answer to that. I’d at least like to try to become the statistical anomaly and I think I’d be able to decimate an interview.</p>

<p>Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>EDIT: Whoops, I forgot. I don’t know where the engineering suggestions are coming from. While I appreciate every suggestion, I mentioned I wanted to major in Comp Sci or Economics. Unless we’re using [software] engineering and comp sci interchangeably?</p>

<p>"I guess I could try to receive help, I’m underaged though so I don’t know if my parents would go for that. "</p>

<p>Start at your own school. You are old enough to independently request a meeting of the Resources Team that will determine whether you qualify for an IEP or 504 plan. The guidance counselor and resource teachers at your school can help you find access to help you qualify for. </p>

<p>Many emotional challenges have biological sources. If your parents would permit you to use insulin to treat diabetes, it is not rational for them to disapprove appropriate therapies for depression.</p>

<p>Isn’t it a bit late to “construct a custom learning plan”? I don’t think I ever even needed one; my performance this year proves it. All I’ve done was attend nearly every day and my homework. </p>

<p>That sounds a bit extreme. I’ll seek a therapist but I prefer to not do it in school. Also, I don’t know if we even have a ‘resources team’, I’ve never heard of it</p>

<p>If I had to guess, my average would be more like ~73 after considering senior year if that helps my case at all. I’d imagine a 4 point difference in one year is OK? However, it’s still not like it’s even close to mediocre and it’s low enough that it’s kind of easy to do that anyway.</p>

<p>Also, how would I fare with schools with ~60% acceptance rate with SATs lower than mine?</p>

<p>Still looking for an answer about “auto reject.”</p>

<p>Every public school in the country has a Resource team. That you managed to miss so much school and not get invited to a meeting indicates that either your school’s team is disorganized, or that your parents refused to take them up on the offer. Kid’s who have no issues wouldn’t have reason to know about this kind of service.</p>

<p>I think it’s probably the former if anything. We have had meetings before about my attendance but they never mentioned anything about a “special learning plan” or anything of that nature. Either that or my performance in middle school caused administration to think I didn’t need it and that it was just a phase. Either way, even if they had told me about it, I probably wouldn’t have even taken them up on the offer. </p>

<p>I’d like to request we go back to talking about the original topic though. I still need a few more places to apply to. Or should I get diagnosed before making a list? </p>

<p>And my questions above ; ;</p>

<p>I’m the one who uses CS and Eng’g interchangeably since at many schools CS is in the College of Engineering. I know that’s not always the case, but I have a tendency to think that way. lol.</p>

<p>Yes, I do think that if you apply to “better schools” you’ll be rejected right away simply because of your GPA.</p>

<p>I guess I could try to receive help, I’m underaged though so I don’t know if my parents would go for that. They’ve always been a fan of “natural medicine” and “getting healed naturally”, that kind of BS.</p>

<p>Well, how’s that been working so far? The proofs in the pudding, they have a child who hasn’t done very well…year after year.</p>

<p>To be fair, I’ve never spoken to them about depression. The natural medicine shenanigans only applies to things like the common cold. </p>

<p>Could I at least schedule an interview? </p>

<p>How can I use the full freight hook to the greatest effect?</p>

<p>How do cases such as these work:

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<p>I have a feeling I already know the answer but I just want to see it said</p>

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<p>Lots of good students got their start at community college. Some transfer to the state flagship*, then go on to top PhD programs in their majors (including computer science).</p>

<p>*For a NY resident, this would be Stony Brook as far as computer science goes – Stony Brook is a very respectable school for computer science. It is unlikely that you will have much choice as a freshman of four year schools with decent computer science degree programs with a 1.4 HS GPA.</p>

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<p>Could be a recruited athlete or some other “special” admit.</p>

<p>How about the effects of my senior year grades?</p>

<p>Senior year is bringing up my GPA to ~2.0. </p>

<p>Also, regarding the picture: Pig disgusting…</p>

<p>Many schools accept the odd very low score student for hooked reasons…child of a prof, athlete, or some other special reason.</p>

<p>An affluent student who can’t demonstrate a diagnosed illness won’t get special consideration at many schools. </p>

<p>Your senior years grades are really just one semester. Decisions are made before second semester grades are in.</p>

<p>That said…see how things go this year, and if you fail to get admitted, reapply next year with your better senior year grades.</p>

<p>First, you must understand you are NOT on a 4.0 scale. There is no precise conversion from numerical grades to a 4.0. You are a C student which is roughly a 2.0.</p>

<p>Are you in NYC? THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!</p>

<p>New York is unlike most places in the US. The suggestion that you to attend a community college like Bronx Community College in NYC is just ignorance from people as far away as California.</p>

<p>Whatever your high school GPA would be on a 4.0 scale, it is definitely not the equivalent of a 2.5. At most state universities e.g. UMass, SUNY Binghamton, UConn there is a minimum GPA standard of a 2.5. The same is true at private colleges and even at ones that have acceptance rates of 60% or higher. They automatically reject at below a 2.5 GPA. Further, many 4 year institutions simply will not take students in the bottom half of their high school class at public schools.</p>

<p>Some SUNY’s will admit a very small percentage (2-4) of students who have between 2.0 and 2.5. You have to look at Common Data Sets at Section C11 to see what exactly that percentage is. Further, what they do with grades on a scale like yours is unclear.</p>

<p>The realistic option with your grades is limited attending one of the 4 year colleges of CUNY: Hunter, City, Brooklyn, Queens etc. These colleges accept students with even below a 2.0. See Section C11 of <a href=“http://www1.ccny.cuny.edu/facultystaff/ir/upload/Common_Data_Set_2011-2012.pdf[/url]”>http://www1.ccny.cuny.edu/facultystaff/ir/upload/Common_Data_Set_2011-2012.pdf&lt;/a&gt;. In a posting above it was explained to you that there is a way up and out of Queens College if you want to study computer science at Columbia University (if you’ve ever heard of it).</p>

<p>I encourage you to talk to a college counselor at your high school who knows more about your school’s grading system than anyone on this site. There may be some local private 4 year institutions that will consider taking you and your money.</p>

<p>My list:

  1. SUNY New Paltz (long reach) - nice town
  2. SUNY Cortland - ditto
  3. SUNY Brockport (reach)
  4. CUNY Queens
  5. CUNY Hunter
  6. CUNY City College</p>

<p>I am not in NYC. I am from Westchester.</p>

<p>Are you saying I need to find out how my high school reports my grade to colleges?</p>

<p>I don’t know how to reach guidance during vacation. Hopefully they check their email. Otherwise, I’m gonna have to find their home phone or something like that</p>

<p>*Could I at least schedule an interview? </p>

<p>How can I use the full freight hook to the greatest effect?*</p>

<p>Make a new thread in the Parent Forum. Make subject line along the lines of: Low C full pay student with good SAT needs a 4 year college.</p>

<p>The parents there will know some schools that will literally accept all or nearly all who apply.</p>

<p>Done. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1434159-low-c-full-pay-student-good-sat-needs-4-year-college.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1434159-low-c-full-pay-student-good-sat-needs-4-year-college.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Well, worst comes to worst, I’ll probably just not go to college and travel and try my hand at venture capitalism.</p>

<p>What’s the name of your company?</p>

<p>“Are you saying I need to find out how my high school reports my grade to colleges?” NO</p>

<p>Your grades are reported exactly as they are given to you on a 100 point scale. I believe most public schools in New York use a 100 point grading scale. If you do not have a GPA of over 70, you will be rejected at any SUNY. In fact, the minimum may be a 75 even at most lesser SUNY’s. In any event, any SUNY school will know how to interpret grades from Westchester public schools. With your SAT’s you could be the only kid who gets into a particular SUNY with below a 75 average.</p>

<p>Your options are Westchester Community College (unless you like CUNY Bronx Community College better) and CUNY 4 year colleges. You probably could get into City College with your grades and possibly even Hunter. City and Hunter have very limited dormitory space.</p>

<p>With private institutions there is a slim possibility that they may bend the rules just to let you in. They charge a lot more money in tuition. Just as a guess try Catholic Manhattan College and not Fordham as a charity case. Housing is guaranteed there too. The real problem you have is unless you have at least decent senior year grades that you are just not prepared to go to a 4 year college.</p>

<p>“Well, worst comes to worst, I’ll probably just not go to college and travel and try my hand at venture capitalism.”</p>

<p>DON’T. Try a PG year at a private boarding school to get you prepared for college.</p>

<p>with a 69 average, it is very likely that your application will be rejected. I totally agree with inparent, that you need to start at community college because you need some distance between you and high school. </p>

<p>Even if you should decide to attend a CUNY community college if you attend 1 year accumulate 24 credit with A’s and B’s you can transfer into one of the 4 year colleges. Your GPA will not even get you into a CUNY or SUNY 4 year school (it will not get you into some of the CUNY 2 year school, unless you are academically/economically disadvantaged, which you are neither).</p>

<p>Many of the 2 year CUNY/SUNY have automatic articulation agreements with 4 year schools should you do well. FOr example; you could possibly attend NYU steinhardt through the CCTOP program where you would have to be coming from a NYC (some LI community colleges).</p>

<p>[Community</a> College Transfer Opportunity Program - NYU Steinhardt](<a href=“NYU CCTOP”>NYU CCTOP)</p>

<p>If you are from Westchester, how did you attend Stuyvesant as an out of city resident? Did you use a NYC address or attend a school in NYC at the time?</p>