Deterioration of UCLA

sid3000 · March 15, 2010, 6:01pm

good job rezzing this just as the prospective freshmen are lurking.

BayBoi10 · March 15, 2010, 6:06pm

They have the right to know. I’m sick of boosters selling their school as something it’s not. UCLA use to be a good school and it will in the future. But, right now the UC system is struggling to reconfigure it’s mission and financial situation. You cannot expect to hide the reality. The media has been all over the struggles of public education throughout the nation, with particular attention to the UC system because it is suffering the most.

ThisCouldBeHeavn · March 15, 2010, 6:32pm

I’m sure he only bumped this to point out that because of some donations, the library hours are no longer a big issue.

sid3000 · March 15, 2010, 6:35pm

News Flash: The economy kinda sucks right now. Of course public education is on the rocks, and you’re absolutely right that it will get better. The only issue is that you’re trying to validate whatever ambiguous point you’re making using a thread made during a mass hysteria several months ago.

BayBoi10 · March 15, 2010, 6:41pm

You sir need to wake up or were u not aware of the recent protest this month. While we are at it. Many believe UCLA is safer than Berkeley. Well please search the recent student-on-student throat slashing. Also, look up UCLA tasering. Where UCPD tasered a UCLA student. Need more, UCLA has bums to. Go to Westwood and check it out. They flock there because it is a public school on public land. UCSD is the safiest and prettiest campus of all the UCs. Although, Berkeley has it faults too. It’s academics and clout can carry much farther than any UC.

ThisCouldBeHeavn · March 15, 2010, 6:45pm

Right, because there haven’t been any controversial incidents at UCSD recently :rolleyes:

ThisCouldBeHeavn · March 15, 2010, 6:50pm

Los Angeles is a much bigger city and is more likely to fall victim to a terrorist attack. Can’t believe you didn’t mention that.

And the Unabomber worked at and planted a couple bombs in Berkeley, so I wouldn’t feel safe there either.

sid3000 · March 15, 2010, 6:59pm

Make up your mind. First your trying to talk about finances now you’re talking about security. You have no valid argument for either one. You are also “boosting” UCSD in the same manner you so poignantly condemned others for having some sense of pride for their school.

sid3000 · March 15, 2010, 7:06pm

Also, I find the presence of the bums humbling.

wheatbread · March 15, 2010, 11:39pm

Nuh-uh. Foreigners may hate America, but they sure do love our celebrities. :)

sentimentGX4 · March 16, 2010, 12:26am

Bayboi10 is just a Berkeley ■■■■■ with some grudge against UCLA. He posts here more than he does over on his own board and he’ll say anything to make the university look bad.

imrightuarewrong · March 16, 2010, 2:38pm

On the bright side, at least he is weeding out the people stupid enough to fall for his ■■■■■■■■ from coming to UCLA.

Ergo · March 16, 2010, 8:18pm

How is UCLA holding up now though? Is the school still cutting its budget? And if not, how has the school been affected by last year’s cuts?

Also, it’s just a rumor, but is it true that a large number of students take more than four years to graduate since there aren’t enough classes?

BayBoi10 · March 17, 2010, 2:07pm

" How is UCLA holding up now though? Is the school still cutting its budget? And if not, how has the school been affected by last year’s cuts?"

[Budget</a> news and background / UCLA Newsroom](<a href=“http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-budget-old.aspx]Budget”>Newsroom | UCLA)

I hope these articles show prospective freshmen that this UCLA hype on Collegeconfidential.com is not the reality. The UCs are hurting as are all public schools. I attend Berkeley and I do have a personal perspective on UCLA. Because, I have cousins there and tons of friends who attend. I grew up in Southern California, 45 min from Los Angeles. Also, as shown from the articles, I also read other universities newspapers to catch up on higher education news.

sentimentGX4 · March 17, 2010, 2:41pm

You know what? Some of those articles are regarding Berkeley as well…

BayBoi10 · March 17, 2010, 2:45pm

I’m well aware. But, Berkeley is Berkeley. I’m pretty sure the Regents will save and preserve Berkeley’s excellence before UCLA’s. Berkeley is a top 5 research institution, in almost all areas. UCLA is a good, top 20, but it’s no Berkeley. UCLA’s top departments besides medical are linguistics and film. Not very vital or significant. When considering medical school, UCSF trumps UCLA. Everyone knows, because Berkeley lacks a medical school, that UCSF is the unofficial med. school to Berkeley.

Bogney · March 17, 2010, 2:57pm

Top students and professors tend to make top schools, and Cal, UCLA, UCSD still have those and remain top schools even in poor budget times. Technical brilliance does not equal wisdom or judgment, so the humanities remain critically important courses of study. Brilliance occurs at campuses other than the top three, so closing the others would be a societal loss. Raising tuition creates class inequality absent sufficient need based aid, so it might be a good idea but only if done correctly. Merit-based aid should be scrapped in favor of only need-based aid. If you are brilliant and can afford it, why shouldn’t you pay? Same for athletic / arts scholarships. Sports should be de-emphasized in college in favor of fitness - sports academies (private or public) for truly great athletes should take the place of college sports. Californians generally need to understand that generally speaking, we get what we pay for and education is both valuable and expensive.

sentimentGX4 · March 17, 2010, 3:59pm

That much is evident. However, UCLA has the backing of the authoritative lobbyists of Los Angeles. Los Angeles is one of most powerful cities in the United States. Berkeley is a side note for the “historic city” of San Francisco. (You’re not even in San Fran!) With public contributions outside that of the Regents, schools such as UCLA and UCSD have gained prominence, not from the talent of the administration or help from the University of California, but from their cities.

Let me give you an example of some of the serious $bling$ UCLA has raked up from LA. First, the Los Angeles Olympic tennis courts are in UCLA. It’s practically an entire stadium! Second, the Ronald Reagan Medical Center, the best hospital in the Western United States and the 3rd in the nation, was built on our campus. Do you think our academic excellence had anything to do with it? The same is true for UCSD. How else do you think UCSD suddenly became a world class university in something like 50 years? As a matter of fact, MOST of the UC campuses are a direct result of lobbying from their respective cities.

So if you think Berkeley will fare better in an economic crisis, you’re sadly mistaken. The location of UCLA and UCSD are reasons I predict that these schools will inevitably surpass Berkeley in the future.

ThisCouldBeHeavn · March 17, 2010, 7:22pm

Heck, only one of them is really about cuts specifically at UCLA.

It looked more you just did a search on the DB website and didn’t actually read. If you were trying to be intellectually honest and had actually read the articles, you wouldn’t have included most of them. But hey, your ■■■■■■■■ has already been successful so what does any of this matter?

BayBoi10 · March 17, 2010, 7:52pm

This thread received the views it has because I provided substantial evidence that UCLA is and has been on a decline. Again, the end is nearing for UCLA. I do hope it will rise again. And it will if the government finds away to pay off the $24 billion dollar state debt, regroup and reallocate funds to education instead of prisons. But, that is not happening in the near future. The Economist predicts that it will take 20 years.

You boosters can come and attack me all you want, but freshmen will find the truth when they talk to current students that are suffering from the snowball effect of the budget cuts. UCLA was great and currently is holding on to the last strand of greatness. Only time will tell if it regains greatness and prestige, but so far there isn’t much optimism from your chancellor, staff, faculty and students. One needs to only read a newspaper, watch the news, talk to their professors and peers to find what I say is true. I’m sorry to be harsh. It hasn’t been easy for me either, with the increased fees, larger classrooms, and horrible job prospects. I love the UC system and it is, without a doubt, the best public educational system in the US. But, times are tough and unfortunately public education will suffer.

Please don’t underestimate people. Most aren’t naive enough to buy the rah-rah that only exist on College Confidential.

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