<p>Less and less people are willing to become janitors, burger flippers, etc., because they think that people with a college education do not do those kind of jobs. And everyday more kids go to college. Now high school students who do not necessarily have thought of college are not willing to do those jobs. And in high school, apparently, if you are a looking for a job, you're not going to look into being a doctor. In high school, if you're going to get a job, most likely those are the jobs that employers are going to hire you for.</p>
<p>Not really. No one really wants to be a janitor or burger flipper, they just fall into it. Manufacturing has gone overseas due to costs and would have regardless of colleges’ role in society.</p>
<p>alright then how about being a soldier. The United States Military Academy is getting concerned how many students are not willing to serve their country and not to apply to the school. And it’s true. I in 4 men served in the army in the 50’s. Now the number is 1 in 200.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say college had much of an impact on the number of people enlisting; if anything, their willingness to pay for higher education may have increased the number of people joining. (May or not actually be true, granted I haven’t actually done any research – I’m just rambling off ideas.)</p>
<p>Society in general has changed a great deal from the 50s to today. Back then, there was a greater since of duty to the country and national pride.</p>
<p>Even if college weren’t an option today, I doubt the numbers of people enlisting would be impacted.</p>
<p>Well, I don’t know if your stats take this into consideration, but the population has increased significantly since then. </p>
<p>Another reason may be the questionable wars we’re getting ourselves into these days. The 50’s Army recruitment was probably still likely riding on the coattails of WW2. Nowadays, Iraq has put a pretty bad taste in everyone’s mouth.</p>
<p>Also, because of the way war has changed, you don’t NEED as many soldiers as you did back in the 50’s and 60’s.</p>
<p>The population has increased dramatically since WWII, and technological advances have changed war, so it’s not as though we have a shortage of people in the millitary or a dire need for them. </p>
<p>When the telephone was invented, people feared all the town-criers around the world would lose their jobs. It’s been that way for most major inventions, but the fact is if you’re relatively unskilled and in a job that doesn’t require much education, your job might be replaced by technological advances. I work at a bakery for $8/hr, and while I don’t think bakers will be replaced anytime soon, the job of the cashiers (like me) will undoubtedly be replaced by technology in the future. So we will lose more “blue-collar” jobs because there is less need for them. The US also has a flood of immigrants willing to work these jobs, not to mention outsourcing. The salary of professionals like electricians has risen as fewer people choose to train for those jobs. </p>
<p>By investing in education, we increase our human capital, meaning our population and workforce are more educated. In some fields (like Law) the supply is starting to exceed the demand but the market straightens itself out eventually (Law becomes less lucrative, fewer people go to Law school). So I wouldn’t worry about a situation where too many people are college educated and we don’t have enough blue-collar workers. Only 1 out of 4 Americans has a Bachelor’s degree; for our generation it’s more, but a BA is worth less than before. College education has hardly ruined society, although i’m sure that was a rhetorical question.</p>
<p>I agree. I have read an article on CC about how the bachler’s degreee in these times has become more and more the “norm” sort of say, and a BA/BS has become almost a requirement for more and more jobs. </p>
<p>Because people can’t find jobs in this economy, the people that are unemployed that hold BA/BS have all the more reason to go to grad school to improve their resume and desirability for being hired for jobs.</p>
<p>RIP society</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>What a horribly worded question.</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>yes, i’m dying help me</p>
<p>Hopefully someone who went to college would demand more money to be a janitor than a highschool dropout. And since a college education doesn’t really make you a better janitor, someone hiring a janitor would hire the highschool dropout who is willing to work for less, which would then push people to recieve less education (because you’d either settle for less money or be unemployed).</p>
<p>Because we need more burger flippers and janitors…</p>
<p>And all the technological advancements from college educated people are just annoying…</p>
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Yeah, where are these millions of jobs that can’t be filled because too many people have degrees? Maybe they would get us below 8%…</p>
<p>What a stupid question. “Did college education ruin society?” No. The perception of what college education is for has changed. College used to be about getting an education, not about getting job training. Job training used to be learned…on the job.</p>
<p>Not everyone needs a BA. We should stop telling people that they’re worthless if they don’t get a college education, but we also have to stop funneling job training through four year universities. There’s no need to force a liberal arts education down the throat of someone who doesn’t want it; they won’t get anything out of it anyways. </p>
<p>On another note, it seems that the default route for most people entering college, when they have no idea what they want to do, is to want to become a doctor, lawyer, or businessman. Three-fourths of my freshman class entered as pre-med. How many do you think remained pre-med all four years? Part of the problem is the glorification of these fields, and telling people they’re worthless if they don’t rack up $100,000 in debt to pursue an education.</p>
<p>amb2005, i so hardcore agree with you. i say everything you just said all the time.</p>
<p>People don’t go to College to get an education; they go to College to get a job. People who work harder get the higher paying job(Well not always; but you get the point).</p>
<p>The burger flippers and such can be for high school students to work as a part time job. I think that’s a pretty good system. It’s not too strenuous so they can concentrate on their studies, but it’s still some cash coming in.</p>
<p>I have a lot to say about this but don’t have time. Maybe tommorow.</p>
<p>Then why bother posting?</p>