Did the class of 2014 hear these during Cornell days ?

<p>Quoted verbatim from a Cornell blog written by a Cornell student. </p>

<p>Any thoughts / perspectives from current or ex-students please .... thanks</p>

<p>"......Readers of this blog know that I truly love Cornell. To blog about the university, you have to either really love it or really hate it. And I fall into the first category.</p>

<p>That said, there are always ways in which our fine college can improve. Over these last few weeks, I'll be pointing out some of these areas and offering some suggestions.</p>

<p>In this post, I look at eight facts about life at Cornell which you wouldn't hear about if you attended Cornell Days over these last two weeks.</p>

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<li><p>There really is no broad sense of the Cornell community. 'Community' is a buzz word these days, with the 'caring community' and all which is supposed to prevent suicides. But there are very few occasions on which the whole student body actually comes together. Slope Day might be the one exception, but the focus of the day is drinking, and the architects have final exams or presentations or something that day which prevents them from having too much fun. Aside from that, your choice of major, religion/ethnicity, and Greek (or not) affiliation are the factors which dictate what you do. There are always exceptions, but if you're a Hotelie, you'll be living in and around the Statler. An engineer, and you'll be stuck in labs and up late finishing problem sets. An architect, and you'll be in studio.</p></li>
<li><p>Many of Cornell's teaching assistants are sub-par. This hasn't affected me too much, since the humanities TAs are generally Ph.D candidates who are highly qualified to grade papers and lead a discussion section. The situation at Cornell is still better than at Harvard, where professors do very little to interact with students and teach courses. But you don't have to stop too many Cornell students before you find someone with a TA horror story. Simply put, many TAs for engineering and science courses are not proficient in English and speak with very heavy accents. They may be some of the smartest graduate students in the university, but their undergraduates cannot understand what they say and feel uncomfortable about asking them to repeat things or approaching them for help. In my four years of taking mostly Arts courses, I had only one TA with an English problem. But even in a history course, I suffered for a semester with a 19th Century specialist who had been assigned to TA a course on classical Greece and Rome.</p></li>
<li><p>Town-gown relations are not strong. There isn't really a strong sense of a Cornell community, and there is even less of a sense of an inclusive Ithaca community. With so much to offer on campus, and the relative isolation of North Campus, most freshmen hardly ever venture more than a couple of blocks off-campus, much less to the more economically and racially diverse sections of Ithaca. Perhaps they'll go to the Ithaca Mall, or to the Commons a handful of times, but that's about it. Cornell upperclassmen necessarily interact with Townies to sign leases and things like that, but they're not forming any sort of relationships with the typical Ithaca resident.</p></li>
<li><p>The Greek community exercises tremendous influence over most aspects of life at Cornell. It's not just that the entire campus social scene revolves around alcohol-centric fraternity parties. The most influential campus leaders are almost exclusively Greek. Most troubling, Greek politics makes its way into areas of Cornell life like the tour guide selection process. Greeks will choose members of their own houses for these types of jobs over more qualified members of other houses or (gasp) non Greeks. Similar trends can be seen for new student orientation, with Greeks choosing members of their own houses to serve as orientation supervisors. And don't get me started about the types of things the most prominent and wealthy fraternities can get away with.</p></li>
<li><p>The specialty majors which make Cornell a unique university have become hijacked by students who use them as springboards to popular and generally unethical jobs. More and more Hotelies want to go to law school or work on Wall Street. ILRies also want to go to law school or work on Wall Street. Liberal arts majors want to go to law school. PAM majors want to go to law school or work on Wall Street. Majors like Biology and Society and Human Biology, Health and Society are used as easier pre-med majors.</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell students are generally ill informed and don't care about what goes on around them. Just look at the embarrassingly low turnout for things like SA elections. Hell, voting for SA takes about 90 seconds of reading and clicking. And only a small fraction of students take the time to do that. Although the Sun does a fantastic and diligent job of putting together a handy daily report for students about what's happening on campus and in the community, few students actually peruse the newsy sections of the paper.</p></li>
<li><p>Yes, budget cuts are affecting academics. You can't cut hundreds of millions of dollars by buying fewer paper clips and letting the grass grow on Libe Slope. Whole academic programs have been cut, and departments like Theatre are facing crippling budget cuts. Smaller, upper-level classes, which are often the most rewarding academically, have been cut because departments have difficulty justifying the cost of holding these classes.</p></li>
<li><p>The weather here really sucks sometimes. Not much can really be done about this, but it should be said. Try walking out of your 2:55-4:10 class during the winter as it's already nearing darkness, the icy wind whips your face, and you have a prelim in three hours. Think the weather doesn't affect students' moods? I came to Ithaca from New England, where the weather isn't much better. But at least in high school, when the weather was bad, I wouldn't have to trudge 15 minutes uphill through ice and snow to get to class. I know tour guides are supposed to talk about the "four seasons" in Ithaca, but the Cornell winter seems to last forever. Unlike some other schools which have underground tunnels or glassed-in walking areas, Cornell lets us experience Mother Nature at her best and worst."</p></li>
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<li><p>Yep. That’s one of the biggest challenges about Cornell. That’s why everybody always says Cornell students should have a take-charge personality because it is so big and diverse.</p></li>
<li><p>The same thing can be said of any research university, and a lot of those places (cough, Harvard, cough) rely even more on their TAs.</p></li>
<li><p>I lived down by the Commons for two years. Whether or not you choose to engage with the broader Ithaca community is your own choice.</p></li>
<li><p>I’m not a big fan of the Greek system, but it’s not nearly as bad as Elie makes it out to be.</p></li>
<li><p>I completely agree with this criticism. But that’s not to say you still can’t get an awesome education in said specialty majors. In fact, the professors will give you even more attention.</p></li>
<li><p>Perhaps. But not certain if this is a problem specific to Cornell. All of my friends were pretty in-tune with everything. </p></li>
<li><p>Yep. And it’s hurting every other campus as well.</p></li>
<li><p>Complaining about the weather is really overdone.</p></li>
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<p>the TA thing i feel may only applies to science/engineering courses(not my area of expertise)…</p>

<p>i always felt that the TA (esp. in large lectures) was always more helpful and should have been teaching the course (not the tenured professor).</p>

<p>the thing about greeks being in key leadership positions on campus is relatively true. it may be that these people are already overachievers.
i would love cayuga to chime in on this point ^ </p>

<p>the thing about the weather is true. there are never any snow days at cornell. though the bus is convenient.</p>

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I don’t fully agree with this, though there are challenges in a big research university. Naturally.<br>

If there was ever a worthy event, all of my friends and I joined together. We didn’t need the other 19,920 students present to feel a strong sense of community.<br>

My TA’s were all fantastic (really), though I wasn’t in engineering classes to evaluate them. And *sub-par *is a strong word there, especially when describing them as “some of the smartest graduate students in the university”. Save the searing word for an instance where quality of work is all around poor, not limited to merely a foreign accent.

What does the author want in a college and town relationship? It’s hard to tell. Even further, Cornell faculty and staff make up the vast majority of the Ithaca community, and the “townie” section of Lynah rink fills up faster and more consistently than the Cornell section. If the hockey team wins, a picture or headline is always on the front page of the Ithaca Journal. some students choose to remain only on campus in Cornell activities, which is fine, but others like me chose to expand off campus a little bit. I had a great time and have always enjoyed the greater Ithaca community.

I never really noticed this nor saw it as a negative.

So law school is an unethical venture. Finance is unethical. And the point about med school? Come on…

I didn’t care much either. I was far more interested in other campus activities not exclusive to campus politics (boring, IMO).</p>

<p>three things that bothered me about that post:

  1. complaining about the accents! that bothers me in all of life, whenever it comes up. if you can’t understand, you really should ask to hear it again! surely the person speaking realizes their English isn’t perfect, and will want some feedback to make sure that the students are understanding. when people are hostile, even not straight to their faces, imagine how much more difficult their task becomes. I have had quite a few TAs who had foreign accents and quite a few who did not, and there is no correlation between those categories and the way I’d split them up as effective or ineffective teachers. in fact, thinking back to the previous two semesters, in both cases the most best TA I had was also the one with the strongest accent.
  2. what are you supposed to do with Ithaca residents, anyway? during high school I wasn’t generally going out and befriending the community. through one of my extracurriculars I actually have got to know some full-time grown-up Ithacans who aren’t directly connected to Cornell. that wasn’t specifically what I set out to do when I joined, either (it’s not the Meet Ithacans Club) so I guess Cornell isn’t some impenetrable bubble…
  3. calling those jobs unethical is, if not unethical, just kind of dumb. if the blog writer ever earns any money I doubt he’ll just shove it all in a shoebox and ignore the opportunity the financial systems provides for investment. the B&S and HBHS comments are silly as well, since pre-med requirements are the same for everyone.</p>