<p>So basically this past year i attended a four year university where i sat on my, partied and did nothing. I started out as an honors student, but was very promptly kicked out. I failed some course, and really didnt care. My plan now is to go back home, attend a community college, retake most of those classes, then re transfer back to a four year school, take the harder courses there so i can complete my bs in psychology, and then graduate. Is there a chance of me getting into med school given my first year? Im a smart kid, and i know at home i can get my stuff together when under my parents watch. If i do really well, in these courses back home, will my first year at this four year college be transfered? or can i just erase that year?</p>
<p>Not necessarily. your plan will work; if you go to a community college, you are no longer required to disclose your former record at the previous 4-year college before that. In some cases, you may even be allowed to transfer as a freshman or sophomore admit, the same as people who went directly to high school to community college. Even if that isn’t allowed by the college, you still only get considered based on your communit college record. Medical school may be out of reach for you, at least the very top tier ones, but a lower middling-ranked state school may be willing to take you if you do exceptionally well.</p>
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<p>Despite bedouin’s claim, attending CC isn’t an eraser for your collegiate transcript. That’s a complete fallacy. At all levels of further education, you’ll be asked to disclose fully. If you don’t and somehow accept federal financial aid, you likely are committing a crime. And the database is easily checked – you can’t stuff away your initial poor choices. Regardless, you’ll be kicked out again. </p>
<p>Just be up front. Learn fully from your mistakes and present yourself as mature to your future educators and employers. Striving for med school is very honorable. Best of luck to you on this endeavor.</p>
<p>Bedouin: you really really need to not toss out such information. You seem to have a habit of doing so across many fora here on CC.</p>
<p>Agreed with the above post. Attending a community college does not eliminate the requirement to submit ALL previous college transcripts. BUT if you do well at the CC, it is very possible that another four year school will admit you. I would suggest that your community college be one with an articulation agreement with some four year schools whereby successful completion of the cc work will transfer AND you are guaranteed acceptance.</p>
<p>You are not the first person who didn’t have a successful freshman year…regrouped and gave it a second try. BUT you have to be honest, and that includes presenting all of your college transcripts when REQUIRED to do so.</p>
<p>By the way…family member did just what you are doing…did VERY poorly in a four year college and flunked out. Enrolled at CC…completed gen ed requirements and was an auto accept to a four year school where he finished an engineering degree. BUT he DID have to send his lousy freshman transcript to the four year school to matriculate. Those were the rules.</p>
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Trust this and you’ve screwed yourself. And maybe that’s what the poster had in mind for you. Every college app, and every med school app, is going to require you to list all previous colleges attended. Don’t think that if you “forget” to list it they can’t find out. There is a national service that almost all colleges subscribe to that is set up to track enrollment. All your next college (or med school) has to do is submit your name and they’ll find out every college you’ve ever attended. You’ll be rejected or rescinded for not being honest about this.</p>
<p>thankyou. My question though is weather my grades from this first year of school will effect my getting into future schools. I plan to retake all the courses from this past year. This past year was a huge waste, and i really established nothing. So given that i retake all these courses, do well in them at a community college and apply to another four year school, will my first year grades be put into my g.p.a upon transferring? Don’t i start fresh when i transfer to a community college? Won’t they be looking at my grades from the years spent at the community college to decide weather to let me in rather than the previous year?</p>
<p>^Yes. Your previous record will continue to follow you. It will haunt you.
Does that mean you won’t get in anywhere? Not necessarily; however, it does mean things will be much tougher for you. You need your GPA in the 3.5-3.7 range to be at all competitive for medical school admissions and they will take into account every college course ever taken, incl. CC courses and college courses taken while in HS. Your failure won’t go away – sorry.
As for retaking courses, you need to retake them at a 4-yr. If you have Cs or worse in a class at a 4-yr and then retake and get an A at the CC, it will be assumed the CC was simply easier (i.e., your retaking it for an A means nothing). Go retake the courses at a 4-yr institution.</p>
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<p>EVERY single college grade you have ever received will be factored into the GPA that medical schools see. This includes college courses taken during high school, college courses that were retaken, etc. Ask yourself: would it be fair for someone to bomb an entire semester and not have it count against them?</p>
<p>That said, you don’t need a 4.0 to get into med school. Med schools do take into account GPA trends.</p>
<p>The trend is going to be much more important than the overall average. If you can show you’ve retaken those courses and done well, if you do well in future courses that are also in the science and math area, if you do well on the MCAT, then you will be a good candidate for med school. One year hasn’t ruined your future, but it has placed you in a hole which will take more effort to get out of.</p>
<p>Improvement will certainly weigh on your side, as an applicant, but if the improvement is not enough to overcome the average needed, you are in trouble.</p>