sorry for all the questions but how crucial is it to go to a direct entry program instead of a 2+2 one? i really wanna go to CSULB, but is it really that hard to succeed in a 2+2 program?
Before I would enroll in a college with a 2 plus 2 program, I would want to see the college provide actual information on the numbers of applicants and numbers of students accepted into the nursing program and their average GPA. The difficulty of admittance for 2-2 programs varies greatly.
The main benefit of direct entry is that they reduce your risk of spending 2 years at a college and then finding out you cannot study nursing. At that time, you may find that many direct entry nursing programs do not accept 3rd year transfers into their programs.
However, in some areas, direct entry programs are rare.
I would go for the direct admit programs if possible. Majority of the nursing programs are 2+2’s especially in California but having the security of knowing you are in the program from the beginning could make it less stressful.
Direct admit programs in California: San Diego State, Cal State Fullerton, UCI, UCLA, Univ of San Francisco, Azusa Pacific and Dominican University.
These stats for CSULB are a few years old with 2014 the most recent but this should help:
Fall 2014
• 604 Generic applicants (70 admitted, 171 ineligible, 433 qualified alternates)
• Rating Average – 9.39 (range 9.92– 9.35)
• Statistics for 70 selected students:
Average Science GPA – 3.90 (range 3.25– 4.0)
Average GE GPA – 3.94 (range 3.53 – 4.0)
Average TEAS test score – 89.85% (range 80.7.0% – 97.30%)
Average Math score – 93.73% (range 83.30% – 100%)
Spring 2014
• 210 Generic applicants (65 admitted, 25 ineligible, 185 qualified alternates)
• Rating Average – 9.35 (range 9.96– 8.92)
• Statistics for 65 selected students:
Average Science GPA – 3.77 (range 3.24– 4.0)
Average GE GPA – 3.84 (range 3.26 – 4.0)
Average TEAS test score – 88.75% (range 78.0% – 98.0%)
Average Math score – 94.73% (range 83.3% – 100%)
Fall 2013
• 452 Generic applicants (82 admitted, 137 ineligible, 315 qualified alternates)
• Rating Average – 9.45 (range 9.96– 9.15)
• Statistics for 82 selected students:
Average Science GPA – 3.90 (range 3.25– 4.0)
Average GE GPA – 3.84 (range 3.14 – 4.0)
Average TEAS test score – 87.74% (range 76.0% – 98.0%)
Average Math score – 93.73% (range 80.0% – 100%)
Spring 2013–No transfer students admitted due to budget cuts
• 88 Generic applicants (71 admitted, 9 ineligible, 81 qualified alternates)
• Rating Average – 8.97 (range 8.14– 9.81)
• Statistics for 71 selected students:
Average Science GPA – 3.46 (range 3.00– 4.0)
Average GE GPA – 3.78 (range 3.00 – 4.0)
Average TEAS test score – 85.79% (range 76.7% – 94.7%)
Average Math score – 94.51% (range 71.4% – 100%)
Fall 2012
• 479 Generic applicants (82 admitted, 143 ineligible, 336 qualified alternates)
• Rating Average – 9.35 (range 8.81– 9.89)
• Statistics for 82 selected students:
Average Science GPA – 3.80 (range 3.24– 4.0)
Average GE GPA – 3.87 (range 3.22 – 4.0)
Average TEAS test score – 87.08% (range 78.0% – 97.3%)
Average Math score – 93.43% (range 70.0% – 100%)
Total Students assigned Math Tutorial – 2
thanks so much for all ur help!!
As a nursing student at a 2+2 school, I assure you people can succeed at non direct admit schools! Is it stressful? Yes, but if you are dedicated and plan out your options you will be able to succeed. Unfortunately I didn’t know going into school that there were any direct admit options (I don’t know of any in my state actually), so I thought my options were CC or 4 year college. I looked up the competitiveness of applications for nursing and saw the number of applicants each semester, their relative science and non science pre-req GPAs, and TEAS score. My school had a “score calculator” that would calculate the weight of your grades for you, and give you a score out of 100 that you could compare to the previous cohorts. It accepts smaller groups every semester rather than a big group once a year, which I found as a great benefit incase I didn’t get in my first time around, I could delay graduation my a semester rather than a year. I looked at the pre-reqs, and selected my schedule to separate Bio and Chem into different semesters since they were worth 50% of the application score to give myself the best shot at getting A’s. I even looked at a couple of other schools application req if I needed to transfer schools. Thankfully it worked out, I got in the first time around and I’m loving my major at the school I’ve always wanted to go to without having to pay OOS costs.
Direct Admits are very competitive from what I’ve heard but do provide more security in your major choice, so definitely consider going for some especially if you can get into one! I wish I had known about them earlier. Have some in-direct schools too, and if you have to go to one look up how the application process works, and plan your schedule to give you the best chance possible. If they have it, meet with a pre-nursing advisor for advice. Good Luck!
In a state like PA with large numbers of direct admit nursing programs, there are some that are not highly competitive for entry.
Really? I didn’t know that! I wish I was in PA then, I would have loved to have an opportunity for direct admit.
PA. has about 30 different direct entry nursing programs, including about 10 in public universities. This number does not include 2 year community college programs. A number are in small regional Catholic colleges and universities, in addition to some larger Catholic universities.